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'Crisis Acting' in Orlando ?

Kapyong

Disgusted
Gday all,

A few years ago the US changed the Smith-Mundt act - this covers media produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) such as Voice of America and Radio Liberty.

This US govt media is part of the State Dept's public diplomacy abroad, and is widely broadcast throughout the world. It is often regarded as propaganda, but not by the BBG itself of course.

Previously this media was strictly limited to international audiences, and was banned from broadcast in the US. In 2013 this law was changed to allow this US govt media to be broadcast to the US audience. Here is an article from back then discussing it :
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14...an-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

There is a concern that this has allowed the US govt to make propaganda for US consumption. (A new term arising from all this is the 'crisis actor' - a professional actor who plays out a crisis that is presented as news.)

It sure seems unlikely - but there are many sceptics arguing it is so, and even a certain amount of evidence apparently -

Have a look at what happens at the end of this video from Orlando - watch the victim in red shoes after they pass the camera :

It looks like they set him down after the act is over, and celebrate a good job. That part of the clip is not shown on TV.
(It's also a little odd that they are carrying the victim towards the Pulse, but then stop a block away.)

Various blogs are pointing out this apparent 'crisis acting', here is one :
https://sitsshow.blogspot.com.au/20...-Wounded-Thigh-and-Pushes-Good-Samaritan.html

It's hard to say what really happened there, and I make no claims about what did.

But it does throw even more doubt and suspicion on the already dubious reputation of the mainstream US media.


Kapyong
 

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
There is a concern that this has allowed the US govt to make propaganda for US consumption. (A new term arising from all this is the 'crisis actor' - a professional actor who plays out a crisis that is presented as news.)

I think it's quite sick, ill and deranged that every time something bad happens, someone wants to call "false flag", comb through news to find subjective and meaningless crap to support their delusions, then mentally masturbate over the corpses of the dead, applauding themselves with how wise and "knowing" they are while in the midst of their delusion.

A "crisis actor" are paid actors who play the part of people in trouble for First Responder and military training exercises. They existed long before conspiracy huxters got their hands on the term and interposed their own meaning.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I think it's quite sick, ill and deranged that every time something bad happens, someone wants to call "false flag", comb through news to find subjective and meaningless crap to support their delusions, then mentally masturbate over the corpses of the dead, applauding themselves with how wise and "knowing" they are while in the midst of their delusion.

A "crisis actor" are paid actors who play the part of people in trouble for First Responder and military training exercises. They existed long before conspiracy huxters got their hands on the term and interposed their own meaning.
Nice to see some genuine reason appear in this tawdry excuse for a thread.
The movie, A Beautiful Mind, elegantly showed the perils of seeking patterns wherein no patterns actually exist.

 

Kapyong

Disgusted
Gday all,

How disappointing :(

Not one of my critics read the article, did you ?
None of you viewed the video either, right ?
No-one here knows what Smith-Mundt is about, do you ?

Not one of you actually considered the evidence and argument, did you ?

Instead I get the usual spam - false attacks, personal abuse, denial, childish 'conspiracy' claims ...
And "mentally masturbate over the corpses of the dead ".
Really ? Is that what passes for discussion here ?

I said nothing about a 'False Flag'.
I said nothing about a conspiracy.
I didn't claim Crisis Actors were new.

I simply drew attention to a possible issue with the already suspect MSM.

Frankly -
discussion on this forum is shallow and childish and emotional.
I was hoping for more depth.

Posters here even just deny the facts of history if they don't like them.

And *EDIT* has now done the same thing THREE times :
  • post a SINGLE reply to me
  • ignore my content
  • make some snide comment or abuse
  • contribute no content
  • then run away

Kapyong
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Gday all,

A few years ago the US changed the Smith-Mundt act - this covers media produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) such as Voice of America and Radio Liberty.

This US govt media is part of the State Dept's public diplomacy abroad, and is widely broadcast throughout the world. It is often regarded as propaganda, but not by the BBG itself of course.

Previously this media was strictly limited to international audiences, and was banned from broadcast in the US. In 2013 this law was changed to allow this US govt media to be broadcast to the US audience. Here is an article from back then discussing it :
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14...an-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

There is a concern that this has allowed the US govt to make propaganda for US consumption. (A new term arising from all this is the 'crisis actor' - a professional actor who plays out a crisis that is presented as news.)

It sure seems unlikely - but there are many sceptics arguing it is so, and even a certain amount of evidence apparently -

Have a look at what happens at the end of this video from Orlando - watch the victim in red shoes after they pass the camera :

It looks like they set him down after the act is over, and celebrate a good job. That part of the clip is not shown on TV.
(It's also a little odd that they are carrying the victim towards the Pulse, but then stop a block away.)

Various blogs are pointing out this apparent 'crisis acting', here is one :
https://sitsshow.blogspot.com.au/20...-Wounded-Thigh-and-Pushes-Good-Samaritan.html

It's hard to say what really happened there, and I make no claims about what did.

But it does throw even more doubt and suspicion on the already dubious reputation of the mainstream US media.


Kapyong

If it was a false flag, then what are their goals? IOW for what purpose?
 

Kapyong

Disgusted
Gday FearGod and all :)

If it was a false flag, then what are their goals? IOW for what purpose?

Well, I don't know whether it was a False Flag or not.

But the news on the MSM seems dubious - the video is disturbing (although not conclusive on its own.)

The point is that the US State Dept may be legally producing propaganda for US citizens.
Propaganda which skews the news the way they want it.


Kapyong
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I did watch the video, both the one you posted and the longer one on the page you linked to, and I read that page.

Now I am not sure what is going on here. Is that really a tourniquet? That does not make too much sense in itself. Tourniquets are very rarely applied in first aid situations, and should (almost) never be applied by amateurs when in close proximity to emergency services. (hint to anyone who finds themselves in a first aid situation, don't try applying a tourniquet unless you really know what you are doing and really know it is necessary). I could be wrong, but I don't think that is a tourniquet. I am looking at the dark band beneath the bandana , and I am not sure what that is. (the bandana is not a tourniquet if that is what some people are thinking)

I know that injury looks horrific, but that is actually not a lot of blood. It is possible that this individual was not actually that badly injured, perhaps he was only grazed, or injured in a fall diving for cover, fallen on or hit by broken glass. There is any number ways that he could have received a deep but not immediately life threatening gash to the leg. It could be that the injured person was perfectly capable of standing, but not walking any distance. It could be that the people carrying him needed to set him down for a moment. We do see the one person who was carrying him moving his leg like he had a cramp or something.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Gday all,

A few years ago the US changed the Smith-Mundt act - this covers media produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) such as Voice of America and Radio Liberty.

This US govt media is part of the State Dept's public diplomacy abroad, and is widely broadcast throughout the world. It is often regarded as propaganda, but not by the BBG itself of course.

Previously this media was strictly limited to international audiences, and was banned from broadcast in the US. In 2013 this law was changed to allow this US govt media to be broadcast to the US audience. Here is an article from back then discussing it :
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14...an-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

There is a concern that this has allowed the US govt to make propaganda for US consumption. (A new term arising from all this is the 'crisis actor' - a professional actor who plays out a crisis that is presented as news.)

It sure seems unlikely - but there are many sceptics arguing it is so, and even a certain amount of evidence apparently -

Have a look at what happens at the end of this video from Orlando - watch the victim in red shoes after they pass the camera :

It looks like they set him down after the act is over, and celebrate a good job. That part of the clip is not shown on TV.
(It's also a little odd that they are carrying the victim towards the Pulse, but then stop a block away.)

Various blogs are pointing out this apparent 'crisis acting', here is one :
https://sitsshow.blogspot.com.au/20...-Wounded-Thigh-and-Pushes-Good-Samaritan.html

It's hard to say what really happened there, and I make no claims about what did.

But it does throw even more doubt and suspicion on the already dubious reputation of the mainstream US media.


Kapyong
Acting in recent crime scene :D
They may want to be famous ?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Gday all,

How disappointing :(

Not one of my critics read the article, did you ?
None of you viewed the video either, right ?
No-one here knows what Smith-Mundt is about, do you ?
Once again you are under the delusion that your points are worthy of serious response. If you seriously looked at my original reply you will find much meaning there. Then again, it probably doesn't match the patterns you normally gravitate towards.
 
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NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
Not one of my critics read the article, did you ?

Yes, I did. The news articles you present, however, have nothing to do with the article. The newscasts are not government sponsored. The commercials you see about "Fatherhood" with this link called fatherhood.gov? The government-sponsored "stop smoking" ads? Yep, that's the stuff the article is referring to. It has nothing to do with killing people on US soil so they can have a major production.

None of you viewed the video either, right ?

Nope. Can't. No sound card. Don't have to anyway. The captions said everything. Some ******* who's not as smart as he thinks he is combing through videos and making subjective responses, not with a critical mind, but with a delusional presupposition that "the government did it".

Conspiracy Logic 101: "The government is all-powerful and so good that can pull things off like this without a hitch; but they always leave tantalizing signs of utmost stupidity that paranoid 14 year olds can post on YouTube".

Not one of you actually considered the evidence and argument, did you ?

What conspiracy hoaxsters consider "evidence" is laughable.

Who was the man being carried? How badly was he hurt? Why were they carrying him? Maybe he sprained or broke only one leg so he was able to stand motionless on the uninjured leg. Yet the hoaxster calls this man a "crisis actor" and postulates that there was nothing wrong with him; that this was nothing more than a false flag event and a government operation; and 2 policemen sitting a man down on the sidewalk proves it!

Two cops sitting a man down on the sidewalk proves that the Government embarked on a plot to fake or orchestrate a viscous attack against their own citizenry ...

Think about that ...

I said nothing about a 'False Flag'.

The video you promoted did. That's the mindset of videos like the one you're promoting.

I said nothing about a conspiracy.

The video you promoted did. That's the mindset of videos like the one you're promoting.

I didn't claim Crisis Actors were new.

That's not the point. The point is, these conspiracy hoaxsters have redefined "crisis actor" with no real evidence whatsoever that such villains exist in the capacity in which they claim.

I simply drew attention to a possible issue with the already suspect MSM.

MSM? What's "suspect" about yet another mass shooting by a deranged individual?

discussion on this forum is shallow and childish and emotional.
I was hoping for more depth.

What's shallow and child and emotional is your OP.

Posters here even just deny the facts of history if they don't like them.

I am aware of "false flag" events and that they happen. I'm aware of conspiracies that actually happen. I'm even aware of conspiracies against the American public that have happened.

These actual events, however, have something that garbage like this, Boston Bombing, Sandy Hook, etc DON'T have are thus: MOTIVE and EVIDENCE.
 
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