Criticism of religion and LGBT – equal freedom?

[Piculet]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

 

[danieldemol]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

I don't think there are such countries

 

[ppp]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

What do you think that living in a country that will not permit criticism of LGBT movements entails? When I hear "country that will not permit" that communicates a country in which people are jailed and/or fined merely for saying that they think LGBTs should be shunned from society. Is that what you mean to communicate? Or something else?

 

[Piculet]

What do you think that living in a country that will not permit criticism of LGBT movements entails? When I hear "country that will not permit" that communicates a country in which people are jailed and/or fined merely for saying that they think LGBTs should be shunned from society. Is that what you mean to communicate? Or something else?

The details aren't important.

 

[Piculet]

I don't think there are such countries

That's quite irrelevant, but OK. I think....there will be though. Unfortunately it looks like there will be. Its like a sickness spreading and becoming a norm.

 

[Windwalker]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

You have the right to let the world know you find homosexuality quite distressing to you, and you would prefer not to see it flaunted around because it bothers you so much. Yes, you have that right to let other know you find it personally uncomfortable.

What others might understand about why that is so, is a different thing.

 

[Tambourine]

Getting called out for a terrible opinion is not censorship.

 

[Piculet]

Getting called out for a terrible opinion is not censorship.

Did I say something like it?

 

[ppp]

The details aren't important.

Ah. You are being intentionally avoiding clarity so as to deride people for allegedly misinterpreting you. How very devout.

Getting called out for a terrible opinion is not censorship.

Did I say something like it?

 

[danieldemol]

That's quite irrelevant, but OK. I think....there will be though. Unfortunately it looks like there will be. Its like a sickness spreading and becoming a norm.

Adherence to ancient outdated texts is the real sickness, fortunately it has a cure for those open to science and reason

 

[shunyadragon]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

Cannot respond to the poll as presented. Criticism? it is to anecdotal and subjective to evaluate. Many people criticaze others for many reasons. This not the issue of the relationship between the LBGT community and churches, religion and the law.

 

[epronovost]

The details aren't important.

If you are trying to traffic in percecution complex, then yes, the details are very important.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The poll is incoherent.

It asks:

Should people in secular countries have equal freedom to criticize A and B?​

It then has a series of options having the form:

A should not be criticized to the same extent as B.​

But my right to criticize something is independent of the relative extent to which that something warrants criticism.

So, perhaps the answer is:

Yes, we have the right, if not the responsibility, to criticize a poorly conceived poll.​

 

[SomeRandom]

You can criticise gay people all you like.
That’s your right
Don’t be mad when someone (rightly) calls you a homophobe for it, though.

 

[McBell]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of Islam, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, TV show, or article, I would feel oppressed.

Thus the reason I do not live in a country that does just that.

 

[McBell]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of Christianity, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, TV show, or article, I would feel oppressed.

Thus the reason I do not live in a country that does just that.

 

[McBell]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of Atheism, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, TV show, or article, I would feel oppressed.

Thus the reason I do not live in a country that does just that.

 

[McBell]

Censure happens with both — both justified censure and unjustified censure.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of LGBT movements, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, television show or article, I would feel oppressed.

If I lived in a country that would not permit criticism of Child Marriage, making it a topic that is out of the question in any public speech, TV show, or article, I would feel oppressed.

Thus the reason I do not live in a country that does just that.

 

[McBell]

Shall I continue?
I can post the same thing about a buttload (real measurement) of different topics.
Some of them people will get all up in arms over...

 

[Father Heathen]

The two certainly aren't equivalent, but people should have the freedom to speak their minds. People should also have the right to voice their disagreement. Debate and discourse are important when it comes to having an informed understanding.
This of course excludes threats and harassment.