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Darwinism or Theism (is there a political slant too)?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Darwin & Lincoln were born SAME day but had OPPOSITE views of Man made in Image of Creator!

Excerps:

Karl Marx wrote to Lassalle, January 16, 1861:

" Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural selection for the class struggle in history."

Karl Marx dedicated a personal copy his book, Das Kapital, to Charles Darwin, inscribing that he was a "sincere admirer" of Darwin.
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Darwin continued:

"Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world ...

The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla."

Sanger founded a 501(c)3 called Planned Parenthood.

Sanger began a "Negro Project" in 1939 to reduce the African-American population. Her racist views are seen in statements, such as:

"The lower down in the scale of human development we go the less sexual control we find. It is said the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development."

Joseph Stalin stated of the Soviet state-controlled "common core" type indoctrination:

"There are three things that we do to disabuse the minds of our seminary students. We had to teach them the age of the earth, the geologic origin, and Darwin's teachings."

Darwin influenced Mao Zedong who stated:

"Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwinand the theory of evolution."








Franklin D. Roosevelt
stated January 6, 1942:

"Our enemies are guided by ... unholy contempt for the human race.

We are inspired by a faith that goes back through all the years to the first chapter of the Book of Genesis: "God created man in His own image."
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sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Both Evolution and Theism (Hindu version).
We accept the scientific theory of evolution, and are not beholden to other views that the various scientists who worked in the field may have had.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Darwin & Lincoln were born SAME day but had OPPOSITE views of Man made in Image of Creator!

Excerps:

Karl Marx wrote to Lassalle, January 16, 1861:

" Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural selection for the class struggle in history."

Karl Marx dedicated a personal copy his book, Das Kapital, to Charles Darwin, inscribing that he was a "sincere admirer" of Darwin.
77c82d84-d73c-4b33-bc9d-de13818c581f.jpg


Darwin continued:

"Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world ...

The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla."

Sanger founded a 501(c)3 called Planned Parenthood.

Sanger began a "Negro Project" in 1939 to reduce the African-American population. Her racist views are seen in statements, such as:

"The lower down in the scale of human development we go the less sexual control we find. It is said the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development."

Joseph Stalin stated of the Soviet state-controlled "common core" type indoctrination:

"There are three things that we do to disabuse the minds of our seminary students. We had to teach them the age of the earth, the geologic origin, and Darwin's teachings."

Darwin influenced Mao Zedong who stated:

"Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwinand the theory of evolution."








Franklin D. Roosevelt
stated January 6, 1942:

"Our enemies are guided by ... unholy contempt for the human race.

We are inspired by a faith that goes back through all the years to the first chapter of the Book of Genesis: "God created man in His own image."
15c83af9-e1e9-4b4a-a1f0-c8c7f68957c6.jpg

You should vet your sources before using them. The fact that many sources need to lie about those that they oppose should give you pause. Let's leave out the lies about Darwin that were repeated here, let's instead concentrate on the smearing of Sanger this time around. She did not try to eliminate black people. She recognized that large families were keeping many black families poor. She tried to get the Negro Project to be run and administrated by black people to avoid the sort of false perception that you are pushing. Now you may not realize that you used lying sources, but that is not a very good excuse. When one uses sources that lie one tends to look like a liar. Here is a much less biased source that gives a fuller history of Sanger and the Negro Project:

MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You should vet your sources before using them. The fact that many sources need to lie about those that they oppose should give you pause. Let's leave out the lies about Darwin that were repeated here, let's instead concentrate on the smearing of Sanger this time around. She did not try to eliminate black people. She recognized that large families were keeping many black families poor. She tried to get the Negro Project to be run and administrated by black people to avoid the sort of false perception that you are pushing. Now you may not realize that you used lying sources, but that is not a very good excuse. When one uses sources that lie one tends to look like a liar. Here is a much less biased source that gives a fuller history of Sanger and the Negro Project:

MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)

I thought lying was a sin. @KenS, we'll pray for your unsaved soul.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You should vet your sources before using them. The fact that many sources need to lie about those that they oppose should give you pause. Let's leave out the lies about Darwin that were repeated here, let's instead concentrate on the smearing of Sanger this time around. She did not try to eliminate black people. She recognized that large families were keeping many black families poor. She tried to get the Negro Project to be run and administrated by black people to avoid the sort of false perception that you are pushing. Now you may not realize that you used lying sources, but that is not a very good excuse. When one uses sources that lie one tends to look like a liar. Here is a much less biased source that gives a fuller history of Sanger and the Negro Project:

MSPP / Newsletter / Newsletter #28 (Fall 2001)

NYU is a good vetted source?

NYU "Take a humanistic approach to global studies by studying and living the world's vibrant cultures in this four-year bachelor's degree program."
Liberal Studies

No doubt they would put a nice slant toward the killing of babies.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
NYU is a good vetted source?

NYU "Take a humanistic approach to global studies by studying and living the world's vibrant cultures in this four-year bachelor's degree program."
Liberal Studies

No doubt they would put a nice slant toward the killing of babies.
Nothing is wrong with taking a humanistic approach. And please note, none of Sanger's work involved abortion. She tried to provide contraception to poor people. Plus abortion is not "killing babies". You keep failing basic tests on honesty.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member

Citation please? This like the following I detect a cognitive dissonance.

Excerps:

Karl Marx wrote to Lassalle, January 16, 1861:

" Darwin's book is very important and serves me as a basis in natural selection for the class struggle in history."

Karl Marx dedicated a personal copy his book, Das Kapital, to Charles Darwin, inscribing that he was a "sincere admirer" of Darwin.
77c82d84-d73c-4b33-bc9d-de13818c581f.jpg


Darwin continued:

"Civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world ...

The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla."

Sanger founded a 501(c)3 called Planned Parenthood.

Sanger began a "Negro Project" in 1939 to reduce the African-American population. Her racist views are seen in statements, such as:

"The lower down in the scale of human development we go the less sexual control we find. It is said the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development."

Joseph Stalin stated of the Soviet state-controlled "common core" type indoctrination:

"There are three things that we do to disabuse the minds of our seminary students. We had to teach them the age of the earth, the geologic origin, and Darwin's teachings."

Darwin influenced Mao Zedong who stated:

"Chinese socialism is founded upon Darwinand the theory of evolution."








Franklin D. Roosevelt
stated January 6, 1942:

"Our enemies are guided by ... unholy contempt for the human race.

We are inspired by a faith that goes back through all the years to the first chapter of the Book of Genesis: "God created man in His own image."
15c83af9-e1e9-4b4a-a1f0-c8c7f68957c6.jpg

This post is a terrible shotgun approach of anecdotal citations that have nothing to do with the science of evolution. What Karl Marx, Abraham Lincoln (?), Roosevelt, Sanger (misrepresented), and Joseph Stalin (who did not believe in evolution?) have absolutely nothing to do with the science of evolution.
 
Darwin & Lincoln were born SAME day but had OPPOSITE views of Man made in Image of Creator!

Darwin was a Christian when he created his theory of evolution, and remained one for a significant period after. He saw no contradiction between the 2 ideas. He did describe himself as an agnostic later in life though.

He is also buried in Westminster Abbey, which shows the Church of England couldn't have had much of a problem with reconciling evolution with their theology.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
What a bizarre non sequitur. I doubt you even know what humanism actually is.
Quit applicable unless the quote from her "The lower down in the scale of human development we go the less sexual control we find. It is said the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development." is wrong.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Could be either unless you think murder is OK :D

Not really, murder would cause mental trauma to the doer unless they're a psychopath. That's a better reason not to do it, I'd say. There's also that jail thing, that is a metric pain in the ***.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Darwin was a Christian when he created his theory of evolution, and remained one for a significant period after. He saw no contradiction between the 2 ideas. He did describe himself as an agnostic later in life though.

He is also buried in Westminster Abbey, which shows the Church of England couldn't have had much of a problem with reconciling evolution with their theology.

This supports my position.
 
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