Deadly In Portland

[PureX]

You can argue that if you like, but the fact that he was on the run after his secret Vice interview, where he openly admitted to the killing, and the fact that he opened fire on police when they went to arrest him, proves that he had gone totally rogue... Typical radical extremist, IMO.

All it proves is that he was in fear of his life BECAUSE OF THE POLICE. And it turned out he had good reason, as they killed him.

 

[Cooky]

All it proves is that he was in fear of his life BECAUSE OF THE POLICE. And it turned out he had good reason, as they killed him.

He could have contacted an attorney and turned himself in -- surely you don't think the police would shoot him in the police station, do you?

 

[PureX]

He could have contacted an attorney and turned himself in -- surely you don't think the police would shoot him in the police station, do you?

Why would they need to take him to the station to shoot him? They shoot people in the streets in broad daylight all across the country. Many of them unarmed.

 

[Tambourine]

You can argue that if you like, but the fact that he was on the run after his secret Vice interview, where he openly admitted to the killing, and the fact that he opened fire on police when they went to arrest him, proves that he had gone totally rogue... Typical radical extremist, IMO.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong about being a radical extremist.

It is interesting that you think opening fire on armed police is a form of aggression.
Do you believe opening fire on protesters is a form of aggression, too?

 

[Mister Emu]

Why do we not argue that an Antifa member "acted in self defense" when he shot at a cop, when he had already been shot at before?

Had he peacefully surrendered he would have had his chance in court to argue that what he did was self defense. Just like Rittenhouse will.

What would being shot by a stranger whom he was trying to take a gun from in the middle of a confrontation have to do with pulling a gun on law enforcement agents there to arrest him?

Something stinks about this. Which witnesses said Reinoehl fired 40-50 shots at police? Does this sound at all feasible?

Witnesses are notoriously unreliable. I doubt many, if any, of the witnesses present could have distinguished between the fugitive and police fire. I would wager he didn't get many, if any shots off and that what they heard was the sound of the agents there firing when he pulled a gun.

 

[OtherSheep]

Why do we not argue that an Antifa member "acted in self defense" when he shot at a cop, when he had already been shot at before?

By the same police officer? Doubtful.

In believe the same thing may be said of Michael Reinoehl that can be said of Jacob Blake in Kenosha: they each had priors, and at least one had a warrant out for his arrest.

Portland police have declined comment on the investigation, but Oregon court records show that Reinoehl has been charged twice since June with illegal possession of a loaded firearm.
Suspect In Fatal Portland Shooting Has Pending Gun Charges, Expressed Support For Antifa

 

[OtherSheep]

There is nothing intrinsically wrong about being a radical extremist.
It is interesting that you think opening fire on armed police is a form of aggression.

How small a step is it, from Radical Extremist to BAMN?

BAMN (By Any Means Necessary) A Home Grown Terrorist Group

 

[Tambourine]

By the same police officer? Doubtful.

In believe the same thing may be said of Michael Reinoehl that can be said of Jacob Blake in Kenosha: they each had priors, and at least one had a warrant out for his arrest.

I was talking about Kyle Rittenhouse, the white supremacist militia member, which some people here have argued as "acting in self defense" when he shot two protesters.

Portland police have declined comment on the investigation, but Oregon court records show that Reinoehl has been charged twice since June with illegal possession of a loaded firearm.
Suspect In Fatal Portland Shooting Has Pending Gun Charges, Expressed Support For Antifa

So what exactly does it prove when somebody was convicted for owning a firearm, except that they were owning a firearm? Does such a conviction render them morally suspect, or evil? Can you elaborate on your argument here?

 

[Tambourine]

How small a step is it, from Radical Extremist to BAMN?

At the very best, the term "Radical extremist" can have a meaning relative to the political mainstream (for example, Thomas Paine was a radical extremist in his lifetime, as he was advocating for a democratically led republican government, instead of a monarchy - and he did suffer persecution for it, too). Most of the time, though, it's used as nothing but as a meaningless buzzword.

BAMN (By Any Means Necessary) A Home Grown Terrorist Group

Anyone can claim that some organization or another is a "terrorist group". At least in the US, there is no formalized process and no official authority to designate a domestic organization as such.

You would have a better argument if we were talking about European political groups, but there, the process can vary from country to country (and Antifa is not designated a terrorist group anywhere in Europe, either).

 

[Revoltingest]

I was talking about Kyle Rittenhouse, the white supremacist militia member, which some people here have argued as "acting in self defense".....

On what basis do you call him a "white supremacist"?

 

[Lyndon]

On what basis do you call him a "white supremacist"?

Probably based on his statements and how he set out to terrorize black people trying to peacefully protest.

 

[Revoltingest]

Probably based on his statements and how he set out to terrorize black people trying to peacefully protest.

Links to evidence?

 

[OtherSheep]

All it proves is that he was in fear of his life BECAUSE OF THE POLICE. And it turned out he had good reason, as they killed him.

Michael Reinoehl: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

 

[tytlyf]

I was talking about Kyle Rittenhouse, the white supremacist militia member, which some people here have argued as "acting in self defense" when he shot two protesters.

I don't think I've seen information about Rittenhouse being a white supremacist, but he was on video punching a girl recently.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/01/video-shows-kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse-punching-a-girl-report/

 

[OtherSheep]

At the very best, the term "Radical extremist" can have a meaning relative to the political mainstream
Anyone can claim that some organization or another is a "terrorist group". At least in the US, there is no formalized process and no official authority to designate a domestic organization as such.
(and Antifa is not designated a terrorist group anywhere in Europe, either).

Since 911, there is an official authority to designate Antifa and Black Lives Matter as domestic terrorists.

EXCLUSIVE: DHS Secretary Says Antifa Meets Terrorist Group Definition

Report: FBI Labeled Antifa Domestic Terrorism Long Before Ryan, Rubio, Romney Declared 'No Sides'

"Confidential documents call the anarchists that seek to counter white supremacists ‘domestic terrorists.’"
FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks

My guess is that they're looking to nab the USA ringleader. When the small fish murder someone wearing the wrong cap, they're not so small anymore... even when they run away like little girls.

A Portland livestreamer captured a fatal shooting near downtown protest

Antifa murdered an unarmed Patriot Prayer man, in this case, and can hardly expect a parade to be thrown in their honor... not in America, anyway.

Since terrorism connected to the Marxist Black Lives Matter cabal is openly promoting treason... electrocution is said to be the end result.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Whatever happens to the rioters is their own fault. It's not like they didn't have the ability to learn that there are laws against anarchy. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. And the idiots protest-marching the death of that Antifa guy also have no excuse. Radical Lives Matter doesn't cut it, either.

 

[OtherSheep]

I don't think I've seen information about Rittenhouse being a white supremacist, but he was on video punching a girl recently.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/01/video-shows-kenosha-shooter-kyle-rittenhouse-punching-a-girl-report/

Kenosha gunman 'punched girl weeks before killing BLM protesters' | Metro News

What does some guy punching a girl in a mob have to do with "white supremacy"?
Is that even Rittenhouse? Who are Reese Granville and CJ Wakefield?

"Confidential documents call the anarchists
that seek to counter white supremacists ‘domestic terrorists.’"
FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks

Rittenhouse was a targeted by 3 convicted criminals.

The Men Shot in Kenosha Were Convicted Criminals Who Were Shot While Acting Like Criminals

Terrorists with no excuse,
burn furniture stores and car lots and
apartment buildings with BLtM living there.
It ain't about black lives at all.

 

[Twilight Hue]

People on both sides really need to calm down.
Stop the outrageous accusations against the other side.
End the calls for hostility & violence.
Antifa protester linked to shooting death of Patriot Prayer supporter is killed by US Marshals | Daily Mail Online
Excerpted....
Antifa gunman wanted for shooting dead pro-Trump activist in Portland is killed in shootout with marshals after he 'opened fire with an assault rifle' as officers tried to arrest him

• WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
• Michael Reinoehl, 48, died Thursday as US Marshals moved to arrest him at his hideout in Washington State
• Police say Reinoehl was armed with a gun and ran out of an apartment but they've yet to confirm if he fired
• Witnesses say the suspect opened fire on police with a semi-automatic rifle, letting off 40 or 50 shots
• He had just broken his silence in video interview with Vice News where he claimed he 'acted in self defense'
• Portland Police reportedly suspect him in the fatal shooting of Aaron Danielson which happened on Saturday
• Danielson was leaving a rally supporting President Donald Trump when he was shot dead in the street

An Antifa gunman who admitted shooting dead a supporter of the right-wing group Patriot Prayer in Portland, Oregon has been killed by US Marshals in a shoot-out as officers tried to arrest him.

Michael Reinoehl, 48, was killed as a federal task force attempted to apprehend him in Lacey, Washington, a senior Justice Department official said. Reinoehl was the prime suspect in the killing of Aaron 'Jay' Danielson, 39, who was shot in the chest Saturday night, the official said.

Federal agents from the FBI and the U.S. Marshals Service had located Reinoehl on Thursday after a warrant was issued for his arrest. During the encounter, Reinoehl was shot by at least one law enforcement officer who was working on the federal task force, the official said.

Civil War is looming.

 

[Cooky]

There is nothing intrinsically wrong about being a radical extremist.

Extremism and common mental illness: cross-sectional community survey of White British and Pakistani men and women living in England

Depression, dysthymia and symptoms of anxiety and post-traumatic stress are associated with extremist sympathies.

It is interesting that you think opening fire on armed police is a form of aggression.

There's nothing interesting about being normal.

Do you believe opening fire on protesters is a form of aggression, too?

Obviously. I'm normal.

 

[Lyndon]

Since 911, there is an official authority to designate Antifa and Black Lives Matter as domestic terrorists.

EXCLUSIVE: DHS Secretary Says Antifa Meets Terrorist Group Definition

Report: FBI Labeled Antifa Domestic Terrorism Long Before Ryan, Rubio, Romney Declared 'No Sides'

"Confidential documents call the anarchists that seek to counter white supremacists ‘domestic terrorists.’"
FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks

My guess is that they're looking to nab the USA ringleader. When the small fish murder someone wearing the wrong cap, they're not so small anymore... even when they run away like little girls.

A Portland livestreamer captured a fatal shooting near downtown protest

Antifa murdered an unarmed Patriot Prayer man, in this case, and can hardly expect a parade to be thrown in their honor... not in America, anyway.

Since terrorism connected to the Marxist Black Lives Matter cabal is openly promoting treason... electrocution is said to be the end result.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Whatever happens to the rioters is their own fault. It's not like they didn't have the ability to learn that there are laws against anarchy. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. And the idiots protest-marching the death of that Antifa guy also have no excuse. Radical Lives Matter doesn't cut it, either.

This is loony tunes, no one has said BLM is a terrorist organization except for white supremacist loonies

 

[Nakosis]

Civil War is looming.

I think I'll stay here in So Cal. Us spammy colored Scotts and White Hispanics all get along fine.