Deadly In Portland

[Mindmaster]

The source appears to be John Kelly. Whether that was named in the article or not isn't important.
The report is real and is in line with other dumb things POTUS has mentioned about the military.

It doesn't matter who it appears to be, or what other things Trump has said. It's still not factual reporting, and the writer is a hack.

 

[OtherSheep]

So every member of the Black LIves Matter movement has to be a marxist, I've got news for you, there are more BLM members than there are Marxists in the whole country,

That would be news to me... if I thought it's true. But the organization of Social Democrats of America begs to differ, and so does the CPUSA. The Democratic Socialists were in Germany to take over that country, and they're the same people operating in America today. Rosa Luxemberg ran the German Revolution, Emma Goldman ran one in America. What's happening in America today is the first stages of a full-blown Russian Revolution.

The World Significance of the Russian Revolution : George Pitt-Rivers

Communist Party USA - Wikipedia
The Communist Party USA, officially the Communist Party of the United States of America (CPUSA), is a communist party in the United States established in 1919 after a split in the Socialist Party of America following the Russian Revolution.

Joseph McCarthy: "Enemies within" (1950)

https://www.dsausa.orgThe Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) is the largest socialist organization in the United States. We believe that working people should run both the economy and society democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few. We are a political and activist organization

The supposed leadership of the mob is what they paid for in the French Revolution. And it's probably what they're paying for today.

The French Revolution - A study in democracy : Nesta H. Webster

now lets look at how many trained fascist Trump supporters there are out there, the Dept of Homeland Security says the biggest threat to American security right now is right wing terror groups, you should know about them??

Strangely enough, I did find what the meaning of your trained fascists might be...

FBI
(4) A program for extermination of the police as they are the most important enemy and are termed "trained Fascists."

...but nothing besides the ruminations of the contents of their several stomachs about right wing terror groups... so I'm fairly confident that you've been misinformed. Which is really all I can assume, without documentary support on your side... the burden of proof is on you... not me.

Nevertheless, I did find this:

Why it's likely to be antifa, not neo-Nazis, behind the anarchy in America's streets

What color is a false flag?

A False Flag Is Biden’s Only Chance to Win

 

[OtherSheep]

Do you believe that opening fire on unarmed protesters and killing two of them is an act of self defense, and not an act of aggression?

If so, then why would you say opening fire on cops and not killing any of them is an act of aggression,

when opening fire on civilians and killing two of them is not?

Do you think white-pants was not trying to murder a teenager who was being chased by them, had tripped, and was laying on the ground? Was stomping on him an act of aggression or TLC? Didn't the teenager have reason to feel that ANY anarchists who'd burned and looted and pointed weapons at the police might be trying to kill him, too? The fact that the anarchists didn't kill anyone doesn't mean they never tried... perhaps they're bad shots as well as bad Americans... if they were in fact Americans, and not some aliens, like what happened in the French Revolution.

Do you think that opening fire on Police Officers is lawful in America? Why don't you think that law and order is a good thing? The people who don't want law and order are the reason we need the Police Officers... and we need more of them everyday... because of RIOTERS LOOTERS ARSONISTS and general ANARCHISTS.

Did you think that teenager was a police officer?

 

[Lyndon]

Did you watch any part of the video? If so, did you happen to notice that he ran away, fell, and was immediately set upon by the RIOTERS?

What you would have done, however, peaceful soul that you no doubt are... is lay on the ground and have your head kicked in... before dying under the boots of the other "mostly peaceful protestors."

That video was after he murdered the protester by shooting him in the back, get your facts straight before you start talking nonsense

 

[Tambourine]

Do you think white-pants was not trying to murder a teenager who had run away from them, had tripped, and was laying on the ground?

I think that when discussing factual events, we should stick to actual facts, instead of fantasy scenarios. Don't you?

Was stomping on him an act of aggression or TLC? Didn't the teenager have reason to feel that the anarchists who'd burned and looted and pointed weapons at the police were trying to kill him, too?

I've seen no evidence that the people he killed were engaging in acts of arson, looting, or were attempting to kill police officers. If you have, why don't you put it out there for everyone to peruse?

Also, why is the political allegiance of the people he killed so important to you? Do you think anarchists deserve to be murdered in the streets?

The fact that the anarchists didn't kill anyone doesn't mean they never tried... perhaps they're bad shots as well as bad Americans... if they were in fact Americans, and not some aliens, like what happened in the French Revolution.

I am unaware of extraterrestrial involvement in the French Revolution.

Do you think that opening fire on Police Officers is lawful in America?

As far as I can tell, what is "lawful" in America is both regionally diverse and highly dependent on circumstances. Apparently, it was lawful for armed insurgents to storm state capitals and intimidate elected official three months ago.

Do you think that opening fire on unarmed civilians is a form of self defense?

Why don't you think that law and order is a good thing?

There is nothing intrinsically good about laws when they are unjust or tyrannical.
There is nothing intrinsically good about a social order that promotes injustice, oppresses certain groups of people, and condones violence against dissenters, protesters, or independent journalists.

The people who don't want law and order are the reason we need the Police Officers... and we need more of them everyday... because of RIOTERS LOOTERS ARSONISTS and general ANARCHISTS.

Did you think that teenager was a police officer?

Do you actually believe that people who don't want unjust laws and an unjust social order deserve to be brutalized and oppressed?

Also, what's with your revenge fantasies against anarchists? Do you believe that people who believe in the absence of government deserve to be oppressed and brutalized?

 

[OtherSheep]

OtherSheep said: ↑
[Since 911, there is an official authority to designate Antifa and Black Lives Matter as domestic terrorists.]

[...]
And they have designated neither as terrorism.

And this may be why:

American Bolsheviks’ Marxist Conquest of the Democratic Party
Trevor Loudon’s 2020 list of 65 communists, socialists and security risks in Congress
Communist Party Leader Endorses Joe Biden for President

OtherSheep said: ↑
[Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Whatever happens to the rioters is their own fault.]

Are you serious?

Do you actually believe that Rittenhouse's victims are responsible for their own murder?

Definition of RIOT
Riot definition is - a violent public disorder; specifically : a tumultuous disturbance of the public peace by three or more persons assembled together and acting with a common intent.

Watching the Watchers says Kyle acted in self-defense... self-defense doesn't fit the definition of murder, according to the law.

Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting: New Videos, Map, Audio Visual Analysis by Criminal Defense Lawyer

At about marker 16:20, you see three guys standing around Kyle... they're not inviting him to a birthday party... one just kicked him, one hit him with a skateboard, and one pointed a handgun at Kyle.

Question: Who fired the first shot... from a handgun?
Who threw the brick-in-a-bag? Rosenbaum: sex offender, etc.
Who hit Kyle with the skateboard? Huber: felonious strangulation, use of a dangerous weapon, etc.
Who's the guy who was walking up on Kyle with a handgun? Grosskreutz: drunk with a gun, etc.
Here’s What We Know About The Kenosha Shooting And Its Victims

OtherSheep said: ↑
[Having a gun doesn't mean using it... unless you're Antifa.]

That's nonsense and you know that.

Why do people keep telling me what I know, when they obviously don't know what I know, at all? Antifa doesn't mean handing out suckers at Halloween... we actually can know what they're doing.

OtherSheep said: ↑
[Black lives matter co-founder says they are trained Marxists.]

Being a Marxist is not a violent act, nor an act of terrorism.

Marxism is entirely unConstitutional in America. From private property rights... right on down the line. It's an alien culture trying to take what doesn't belong to them... just like it always is, everywhere.

Marxism is known for its methods... terrorists, by creating an atmosphere of terror.

 

[OtherSheep]

get your facts straight before you start talking nonsense

You first.

Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting:
New Videos, Map, Audio Visual Analysis by Criminal Defense Lawyer

Here’s What We Know About The Kenosha Shooting And Its Victims
"All three of the shooting victims were convicted criminals with crimes ranging from sexual conduct with a minor to felony strangulation, court documents show."

 

[OtherSheep]

I think that when discussing factual events, we should stick to actual facts, instead of fantasy scenarios. Don't you?

You first.

I've seen no evidence that the people he killed were engaging in acts of arson, looting, or were attempting to kill police officers. If you have, why don't you put it out there for everyone to peruse?

Who threw the brick? Rosenbaum. Did you think it was a happy coincidence that Rosenbaum just happened to have a brick in a bag?

Who hit Kyle with the skateboard? Huber. A weapon and a quick get-away, all rolled up in one... this may be thought of as another happy coincidence, if you didn't get a look at his rap sheet first.

Who's the guy who was walking up on Kyle with a handgun? Grosskreutz... Certainly not unarmed. Think maybe Grosskreutz was the guy who fired the first shot in the video?... or yet another happy coincidence... taking place within 2 blocks.
Here’s What We Know About The Kenosha Shooting And Its Victims

Also, why is the political allegiance of the people he killed so important to you? Do you think anarchists deserve to be murdered in the streets?

Permanent Revolution... is that really just a political allegiance?
Saumyendranath Tagore (1944): Permanent Revolution.

I am unaware of extraterrestrial involvement in the French Revolution.

The French Revolution wasn't a comedy.
Reign of Terror | History, Significance, & Facts
Reign of Terror, also called the Terror, French La Terreur, period of the French Revolution from September 5, 1793, to July 27, 1794 (9 Thermidor, year II). With civil war spreading from the Vendée and hostile armies surrounding France on all sides, the Revolutionary government decided to make "Terror" the order of the day (September 5 decree)

As far as I can tell, what is "lawful" in America is both regionally diverse and highly dependent on circumstances. Apparently, it was lawful for armed insurgents to storm state capitals and intimidate elected official three months ago.

That's what I'd want to think too, if I were supporting Marxism.
American Bolsheviks’ Marxist Conquest of the Democratic Party

Do you think that opening fire on unarmed civilians is a form of self defense?

Unarmed... ain't even a little bit true.
Rosenbaum threw the brick-in-a-bag at Kyle. Swing&miss doesn't change a thing.
Huber hit Kyle with a skateboard. Think about how that felt for a minute and a half.
Grosskreutz pointed a handgun at Kyle.
Here’s What We Know About The Kenosha Shooting And Its Victims

My comments inserted, in blue... No, I'm not a Democrat...
Huh, you wouldn't think the Democrats would want to identify with Blue Lives Matter.

 

[Revoltingest]

"The president has repeatedly disparaged the intelligence of service members, and asked that wounded veterans be kept out of military parades, multiple sources tell The Atlantic."

Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’

You know, the problem with this starts right at the words, 'multiple sources.' I disregard these articles entirely because they're most certainly more fiction than fact. There is not a single source given in this entire article that someone could directly follow up with, so this is 'fake' journalism. You cannot make a claim like this that's controversial and support it by 'a friend of a friend said" and so on. Journalism has become so muddied these days I think most people would miss the distinction.

This IS a story: "Senior advisor John Smith confirmed the comments Trump made about the fallen troops in France, and said: "This is a terrible shame that he did this. We must honor our heroes.", etc. This lets other people follow up with the mentioned individual and confirm the details.The who, what, when, where, and how have been addressed.

This is NOT a story: "A friend of a senior advisor to the President claimed that Trump made this disparaging remark about the troops, and is truly stunned." These are just creative writing, and the only thing that is a fact here is that Trump's last name is, in fact, Trump and that senior advisors exist. There is no who (no idea who the source is), what (it's third party testimony, even the source isn't in a position to validate the nature of the comment), how (it's gossip, the source couldn't directly know), when (the 'source' wasn't present), or where. (the source had not attended the event and has no idea if their friend, the alleged first party, was lying, nor could they.)

Anyway, never trust reporting without named sources... This is fiction writing and that's all. This is done specifically to make it so that the source can't be validated and the propaganda can spread.

Besides, there is nothing more ironic than the leftist shill media pretending to be incensed by bad remarks about troops. Hypocrisy, lol.

I'm highly skeptical.
It's a victory for Biden handed to him by a liberal
magazine without evidence. Too good to be true, eh.

 

[Lyndon]

You first.

Kyle Rittenhouse Shooting:
New Videos, Map, Audio Visual Analysis by Criminal Defense Lawyer

Here’s What We Know About The Kenosha Shooting And Its Victims
"All three of the shooting victims were convicted criminals with crimes ranging from sexual conduct with a minor to felony strangulation, court documents show."

More right wing propaganda nonsense, you have no shame??

 

[Mindmaster]

I'm highly skeptical.
It's a victory for Biden handed to him by a liberal
magazine without evidence. Too good to be true, eh.

Except, that's it's not.

No one that isn't part of the brainwashed masses of leftism will buy it. Neither moderates, nor conservatives. So, essentially it's just the left making news for their own and ripping sick farts and declaring they smell like roses. The moderates and conservatives simply don't believe the media anymore, so it doesn't matter what they print, lol. It shows... Essentially, they're just printing news for extreme leftist dummies who lack the capacity to determine what is true.

For Biden to win the election he has to take back the fence-sitters in the middle and those people won't be captured by this "friend of a friend" nonsense. It's not compelling, nor is the issue particularly relevant to moderates. Most moderates have a distastes for the military and think people signing up to join are dumb, so it doesn't matter if Trump would rip on them to them. They're not nationalists, down with the military-industrial complex (usually they want it smaller or destroyed, lol). Of course, I know these comments attributed to Trump are fake, but it wouldn't matter for the swing vote if they were true.

 

[ecco]

Sooo...you sayin' there should now be a White Lives Matter riot..erm...protest?

Sure. But not for Trump Supporting Right-Wing Trash. These people will hopefully gather in large crowds this weekend.

 

[ecco]

President Trump isn't the reason for Patriot Prayer, THIS is:

https://gibsonforfreedom.com/patriot-prayer

Fun website. They set up a $25,000 GoFund page for the "Patriot Prayer" guy that got killed. So far they've collected $200.

 

[ecco]

As to believing the media, public broadcasting is to me accurate and non-inflammatory compared to commercial outlets. Suspect In Fatal Shooting Of Portland Right-Wing Protester Killed By Law Enforcement has a fact-based review including that the one killed had run-ins with cops before hand and did state he was "100% antifa".

From your own article...

Court records show he was stopped by Oregon State Police on Interstate 84 in Union County at 12:47 a.m. on June 8 while he was apparently racing against his 17-year-old son.

The two vehicles were traveling at 111 miles per hour when Reinoehl was pulled over, according to state police records. A state trooper found unidentified prescription pills inside the 2005 Cadillac STS that Reinoehl was driving, an unspecified amount of cannabis, and a concealed and loaded Glock pistol. Reinoehl didn't have a concealed handgun license, according to state police.

Reinoehl was charged with driving under the influence of intoxicants, unlawful possession of a firearm, recklessly endangering another person — his 11-year-old daughter was in the car with him — and reckless driving, according to court records. In addition to his daughter, a kitten and a large dog were inside the car.

A month later, at 2:10 a.m. on July 5, Reinoehl was cited downtown by Portland police for resisting arrest, interfering with an officer and possession of a loaded firearm in a public place.

​

 

[ecco]

Neither democrats nor republicans are empowering violence. The media is.

Care to specify how the media is empowering violence.

More importantly, which media is empowering violence?

I can give one example:
Portland Articles - Breitbart

Just take a quick look at the articles.
WATCH: ‘Protesters’ Set Man on Fire with Bomb Thrown at Portland Police

Portland Police: Reinhoel Appeared to Target His Victim, Video Suggests

AG Barr on Michael Reinoehl’s Killing: ‘Our Cities Are Safer with this Violent Agitator Removed’

 

[PureX]

Care to specify how the media is empowering violence.

More importantly, which media is empowering violence?

The media exists to sell advertisers access to the public's eyes and ears. That means the more they can gain the public's attention, the more money they can sell their access to us, for, to their advertisers. And they have unfortunately discovered that by catastrophizing EVERY STORY they present, they can get lots of people to pay attention to them, and therefor charge a lot more money to their advertisers for access to those people's eyes and ears.

So now all stories, no matter how inane or otherwise unworthy of broadcast, become as hyperbolic, and catastrophic, and divisive and outraging as the media can make them, because they know more of us will pay attention to them, that way, and they will make more money off that attention. So every political issue becomes a 'battle for democracy', every racist incident becomes an 'outrage', every social disagreement becomes 'moral Armageddon'. Fear-mongering becomes the constant meme in the media, because fear heightens our level of attention, and the media sells that heightened level of attention to their advertisers for big money.

So the world is now coming to an end nearly every day, according to the media, thanks to the media's relentless and amoral drive for ever-greater profits. And we keep watching and listening to it all in fear and terror, because so far we have not realized that we are all being played for suckers in a great big money-making scheme.

 

[ecco]

So the world is now coming to an end nearly every day, according to the media, thanks to the media's relentless and amoral drive for ever-greater profits.

Please show one mainstream media outlet that has stated "the end is near". On the other hand, I can show you a lot of Christians who have made that assertion throughout the ages - many often profiting greatly by doing so.

And we keep watching and listening to it all in fear and terror,

Perhaps you "keep watching and listening to it all in fear and terror". I am not in fear at all. Probably the worst feeling I get is disgust when I hear Trump or his ********** staff talk.

 

[ecco]

Communist Party Leader Endorses Joe Biden for President

Don't you mean: The leader of a small segment of the communist party endorses Biden.



The way that is worded makes it seem like THE LEADER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY endorsed Biden.

Do you understand the difference? Do you see how your wording is intentionally misleading?

But, of course, it's not your wording. It's the wording of the folks over at Breitbart. Do they know the wording is intentionally misleading? Of course, they do. They know they can easily mislead their sheeples who won't question any of their propaganda.

 

[PureX]

Please show one mainstream media outlet that has stated "the end is near". On the other hand, I can show you a lot of Christians who have made that assertion throughout the ages - many often profiting greatly by doing so.

I was asked how the media is responsible for the increased violence. And I have explain how.

 

[OtherSheep]

More right wing propaganda nonsense, you have no shame??

More left wing propaganda nonsense, you have no sense??