Define "Marriage"

[Draka]

I have a question before I answer, what would be considered a gender specific term?

Man, woman, male, female, and the like. Without putting gender tags on the individuals involved, what do you consider defines what a marriage is? Just the basics. Taking gender completely out of the equation.

 

[TheKnight]

Man, woman, male, female, and the like. Without putting gender tags on the individuals involved, what do you consider defines what a marriage is? Just the basics. Taking gender completely out of the equation.

Marriage is when two people, recognizing their source and purpose as human beings, decide to unite in order to make their humanity fully complete.

 

[free spirit]

I cannot believe what I read, no one of you knows what marriege is, OMG have mercy on us. What is wrong with you people?

 

[Kerr]

I cannot believe what I read, no one of you knows what marriege is, OMG have mercy on us. What is wrong with you people?

Marriage is not a Christian thing, you know.

 

[free spirit]

Well may as well tell you for the good that it will do, I am sure it will go right past over your head.

Are you ready.... Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

Marriage = mixing ..............simple no?

Depart from that one core principle and we are in trouble

 

[Kerr]

Well may as well tell you for the good that it will do, I am sure it will go right past over your head.

Are you ready.... Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

Marriage = mixing ..............simple no?

Depart from that one core principle and we are in trouble

No, that is not the definition of marriage.

 

[McBell]

Well may as well tell you for the good that it will do, I am sure it will go right past over your head.

Are you ready.... Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

Marriage = mixing ..............simple no?

Depart from that one core principle and we are in trouble

No.
That is NOT the definition of marriage.

 

[Autodidact]

Well may as well tell you for the good that it will do, I am sure it will go right past over your head.

Are you ready.... Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

Marriage = mixing ..............simple no?

Depart from that one core principle and we are in trouble

Well that's just wrong, as clearly all of that can happen without marriage, and marriage can happen without any of that.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Marriage is a legally-binding, contractual partnership, which is primarily financial in nature.

 

[Autodidact]

Marriage is a legally-binding, contractual partnership, which is primarily financial in nature.

And this is the kind of thing that makes me think twice about doing it.

btw I think this is true, but not the whole truth. It's this and much more.

Legally, it's also a status. It's a contract to enter into that status.

It's also the foundational unit of society and family.

It's also a commitment to live together.

It's also a love union.

It's all of those things.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

And this is the kind of thing that makes me think twice about doing it.

btw I think this is true, but not the whole truth. It's this and much more.

Legally, it's also a status. It's a contract to enter into that status.

It's also the foundational unit of society and family.

It's also a commitment to live together.

It's also a love union.

It's all of those things.

Absolutely. Just speaking from personal experience, my wife and I had an equal partnership, a lifetime commitment, a loving union, etc., years before we ever got legally married. The only thing that changed when we got married, was the fact that we now had a legal contract which resulted in various financial effects on our partnership. Marriage wasn't necessary for anything else.

 

[free spirit]

No, that is not the definition of marriage.

Yes sadly I was correct when I wrote that it would go right over your head.

All of you define marriage the way you want it to be and not what it actually is.

example, oil does not marry (or mix) well with water, certain foods do not marry (or mix) well: in other words they do not create a third and more exiting flavour.
Realistically marriage is also the extension of the mixing of the bride and groom families.

We are living in a age of knowledge and technology explosion, but we have lost the true definition of love, and apparently the true definition of marriage is also going out of the window, and why you may ask; if I tell you it will also go right over your head, and why is that? it is because our lifestyle is not in harmony with nature. I am sure it also will go right over your head.
So you have to keeping on searcing... well it is not all bad, it gives you something to hope for, and something to do. Good luck.

 

[Draka]

Well may as well tell you for the good that it will do, I am sure it will go right past over your head.

Are you ready.... Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

Marriage = mixing ..............simple no?

Depart from that one core principle and we are in trouble

You've defined what basic reproduction is, but not marriage. Marriage does not have anything to do with mixing of genes at all. That's biology dear. Reproduction easily occurs without marriage being involved and a marriage can exist without reproduction. If it was as you say, then any person that is infertile or does not wish to have children should not be allowed to get married and I can't believe you would actually be so cruel to actually think such a thing.

Yes sadly I was correct when I wrote that it would go right over your head.

It's not going over anyone's head but yours. You didn't define marriage. You defined how to combine DNA to produce offspring. That is not what a marriage is. Not to mention you couldn't seem to answer the question within the parameters set of not using gender as a factor.

All of you define marriage the way you want it to be and not what it actually is.

It's being described in both ways actually. Isn't what a person or a couple wants their marriage to be just as important as what it is perceived to be? If one does not have ideals of what makes a good marriage and what marriage means to them then why would anyone bother to get married? I think perhaps it is you who is greatly confused as to what a marriage is. Evidenced by your definition of biological reproduction instead of the institution of marriage.

example, oil does not marry (or mix) well with water, certain foods do not marry (or mix) well: in other words they do not create a third and more exiting flavour.

The joining of any two personalities creates their own unique "flavor"...that has nothing to do with reproduction though. Who are you to determine who "mixes" and who doesn't? Isn't that for the "ingredients" to determine?

Realistically marriage is also the extension of the mixing of the bride and groom families.

Or groom and groom, or bride and bride. Or even bride and grooms or groom and brides or brides and grooms for some people if that is what they feel constitutes a marriage.

We are living in a age of knowledge and technology explosion, but we have lost the true definition of love,

It appears you definitely have lost said definition. For you seem to think "love" is dependent upon "tab A" fitting into "slot B" and producing a whole new box. Personally, I think that's called knocking someone up and last I checked, love wasn't required for that and neither was marriage.

and apparently the true definition of marriage is also going out of the window, and why you may ask; if I tell you it will also go right over your head,

I'm beginning to wonder about your own height here as I think you might need to beehive your hair or something to catch what appears to go over yours.

and why is that? it is because our lifestyle is not in harmony with nature. I am sure it also will go right over your head.

In harmony with nature? How funny. Keep telling this Wiccan about being harmony with nature. Go ahead. Enlighten me.

So you have to keeping on searcing... well it is not all bad, it gives you something to hope for, and something to do. Good luck.

Perhaps you need to try to understand and take your own advice, considering how completely wrong you are. Good luck to you too.

 

[Kenect2]

In the past, marriage used to have a definition. These days, it is whatever you want it to be.

 

[free spirit]

You've defined what basic reproduction is, but not marriage. Marriage does not have anything to do with mixing of genes at all. That's biology dear. Reproduction easily occurs without marriage being involved and a marriage can exist without reproduction. If it was as you say, then any person that is infertile or does not wish to have children should not be allowed to get married and I can't believe you would actually be so cruel to actually think such a thing.


It's not going over anyone's head but yours. You didn't define marriage. You defined how to combine DNA to produce offspring. That is not what a marriage is. Not to mention you couldn't seem to answer the question within the parameters set of not using gender as a factor.


It's being described in both ways actually. Isn't what a person or a couple wants their marriage to be just as important as what it is perceived to be? If one does not have ideals of what makes a good marriage and what marriage means to them then why would anyone bother to get married? I think perhaps it is you who is greatly confused as to what a marriage is. Evidenced by your definition of biological reproduction instead of the institution of marriage.



The joining of any two personalities creates their own unique "flavor"...that has nothing to do with reproduction though. Who are you to determine who "mixes" and who doesn't? Isn't that for the "ingredients" to determine?

Or groom and groom, or bride and bride. Or even bride and grooms or groom and brides or brides and grooms for some people if that is what they feel constitutes a marriage.

It appears you definitely have lost said definition. For you seem to think "love" is dependent upon "tab A" fitting into "slot B" and producing a whole new box. Personally, I think that's called knocking someone up and last I checked, love wasn't required for that and neither was marriage.


I'm beginning to wonder about your own height here as I think you might need to beehive your hair or something to catch what appears to go over yours.


In harmony with nature? How funny. Keep telling this Wiccan about being harmony with nature. Go ahead. Enlighten me.


Perhaps you need to try to understand and take your own advice, considering how completely wrong you are. Good luck to you too.

Well to enlighten you I will have to rewire your brain and no one but yourself can do that, so enjoy your ride on this earth and make full use of it, even if that simple task will elude you till the end of your days.

 

[Draka]

Well to enlighten you I will have to rewire your brain and no one but yourself can do that, so enjoy your ride on this earth and make full use of it, even if that simple task will elude you till the end of your days.

Heh. Nice way to totally avoid all the ways you were pointed out as wrong.

and I don't need any "rewiring" and I don't know why you think I would. It's not like being Wiccan has anything to do with the wiring of my brain except perhaps I can use my brain both logically and spiritually at the same time. So few seem to have that ability.

When you are ready to admit that biological reproduction is not the definition of marriage then maybe we can talk. Until then, good luck in elementary school.

 

[Autodidact]

Well to enlighten you I will have to rewire your brain and no one but yourself can do that, so enjoy your ride on this earth and make full use of it, even if that simple task will elude you till the end of your days.

And so we observe that paradoxical combination of arrogance and ignorance that is so characteristic of a certain type of religionist.

Marriage is a social, religious, spiritual and/or legal union of individuals that creates kinship. This union may also be called matrimony, while the ceremony that marks its beginning is usually called a wedding and the married status created is sometimes called wedlock. [wiki]

 

[McBell]

Well may as well tell you for the good that it will do, I am sure it will go right past over your head.

Are you ready.... Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

Marriage = mixing ..............simple no?

Depart from that one core principle and we are in trouble

Yes sadly I was correct when I wrote that it would go right over your head.

All of you define marriage the way you want it to be and not what it actually is.

example, oil does not marry (or mix) well with water, certain foods do not marry (or mix) well: in other words they do not create a third and more exiting flavour.
Realistically marriage is also the extension of the mixing of the bride and groom families.

We are living in a age of knowledge and technology explosion, but we have lost the true definition of love, and apparently the true definition of marriage is also going out of the window, and why you may ask; if I tell you it will also go right over your head, and why is that? it is because our lifestyle is not in harmony with nature. I am sure it also will go right over your head.
So you have to keeping on searcing... well it is not all bad, it gives you something to hope for, and something to do. Good luck.

Well to enlighten you I will have to rewire your brain and no one but yourself can do that, so enjoy your ride on this earth and make full use of it, even if that simple task will elude you till the end of your days.

Do you have even one post in this thread that is NOT a huge steaming pile of bull ****?
I don't see one...
Perhaps I missed one of your posts in this here thread?

 

[blackout]

In the past, marriage used to have a definition. These days, it is whatever you want it to be.

Yeah. In the past marriage used to be a dowry arrangement,
and the bride became the property of the groom and his family.

I'd much rather it be whatever you want it to be. :cover:

 

[free spirit]

AS i said Marriage is the mixing of the genes of a man with the genes of a woman all the other paraphernalia is for the protection of the woman and the new born.

So why defile with what can only be describe as dreams this honest, simplest and oldest institution of humanity.

Yes you can have dreams as long as you keep your feet upon the real ground.