Democrats: Any lessons to be learned?

[David Young]

For those of you in the USA who voted for Kamala Harris, is there anything you believe she could have done differently which would have given her victory over Donald Trump? If so, is it something that a future Democrat challenger could employ? Is it something Kamala should have seen in the first place?

 

[Wirey]

 

[tytlyf]

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? The economy was very strong and nearly the strongest it's ever been.
People voted on "feelings and emotions" and blamed Biden and Dems for inflation and higher prices.
People didn't realize the current administration wasn't responsible for that.
If Trump was president, the same high prices and inflation would have happened. Millions didn't understand that.
Now people will pay for their ignorance and poor choices.

 

[BrokenBread]

Please don't change a thing.
We'll do it all over again .
And by 2028 you will have grown a whole new head of hair to set on fire the day after the next election .

 

[Alien826]

I'm going to need a lot more information before I can try to answer this. For me, this whole thing came out of left field. Going by most of what I heard on TV and in polls, I was expecting a narrow victory only, and I was not prepared to forecast which way it would go. Then there's this "red wave", based on stuff that I didn't hear any of the pundits talking about. Did the Harris campaign know about what would be driving the voters? It appears not, as they didn't seem to factor it into their campaign. Why didn't they know, or alternatively why didn't they tune their campaign accordingly?

Maybe the whole thing would have been seen as inevitable if better research had been done. She had such a short time to win people over.

 

[Wirey]

? The economy was very strong and nearly the strongest it's ever been.
People voted on "feelings and emotions" and blamed Biden and Dems for inflation and higher prices.
People didn't realize the current administration wasn't responsible for that.
If Trump was president, the same high prices and inflation would have happened. Millions didn't understand that.
Now people will pay for their ignorance and poor choices.

If the economy was so strong, why do people routinely say they're worse off than they were under Trump? The Dems did a very poor job of messaging, and the Republicans did a pretty good one of pointing that out. Probably my favourite quote about the human condition comes from Alexander Pope. "First comes fodder, then comes morality." You can have all the high-blown ideals you want, but hungry people want food, and they'll do anything for it. Grocery prices are way higher (for a myriad of reasons), gas is too expensive, rental properties are disappearing, and a lot of young folks are struggling in a gig economy. Putting aside the tribalism that is so prevalent in political discourse today, Trump told people they would do better. Harris told them they were fine and the numbers proved it. If you were working two jobs with no benefits so you could afford to live in your parent's basement at 26, who would you vote for?

BTW, this is not intended as an endorsement of any party's policy, it's just how I see it.

 

[BrokenBread]

Yes The economy is simply fantastic for some.
I am just glad they have been exposed as having no compunction at all in targeting their own poor voters for fleecing to keep their own nests feathered

Opinion

Harris Raised $1 Billion. Where Did it All Go?​

Edith Olmsted
Fri, November 8, 2024 at 3:18 PM EST
2 min read

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Kamala Harris raised more than $1 billion for her presidential campaign … which ultimately failed. In the afterglow of stunning defeat, some Democrats are now asking how she could have possibly spent anywhere near that much money and still lost her shot at the White House.
The Harris campaign finished out the race with at least $20 million in debt, two sources familiar told Politico’s Christopher Cadelago, who wrote on X Wednesday night that of the $1 billion Harris had raised, only $118 million remained in cash as of October 16.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

For those of you in the USA who voted for Kamala Harris, is there anything you believe she could have done differently which would have given her victory over Donald Trump?

In brief: more Bernie; less Biden.

Is it something Kamala should have seen in the first place?

Seeing something, agreeing with it, and being able to act on it, are three different things.

That said, Trump won by roughly 3.16 million votes. I fully suspect that Harris might well have won were it not for misogyny and xenophobia.

 

[tytlyf]

If the economy was so strong, why do people routinely say they're worse off than they were under Trump? The Dems did a very poor job of messaging, and the Republicans did a pretty good one of pointing that out. Probably my favourite quote about the human condition comes from Alexander Pope. "First comes fodder, then comes morality." You can have all the high-blown ideals you want, but hungry people want food, and they'll do anything for it. Grocery prices are way higher (for a myriad of reasons), gas is too expensive, rental properties are disappearing, and a lot of young folks are struggling in a gig economy. Putting aside the tribalism that is so prevalent in political discourse today, Trump told people they would do better. Harris told them they were fine and the numbers proved it. If you were working two jobs with no benefits so you could afford to live in your parent's basement at 26, who would you vote for?

BTW, this is not intended as an endorsement of any party's policy, it's just how I see it.

Because prices are higher due to the pandemic. People are under the misinformed impression that Biden is responsible. He's not

 

[Wirey]

Because prices are higher due to the pandemic. People are under the misinformed impression that Biden is responsible. He's not

I'm not blaming Biden. I'm saying, given that perspective, it is very easy to see why someone would vote for Trump. First comes fodder.....

 

[tytlyf]

I'm not blaming Biden. I'm saying, given that perspective, it is very easy to see why someone would vote for Trump. First comes fodder.....

As mentioned, prices would have been the same if Trump was president. People saw the price increases and didn't bother to learn why that happened.

Trump ran on "I'll fix it" which is referring to prices. He ran on taking advantage of ignorant people that wouldn't realize prices would be the same either way.

 

[Twilight Hue]

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Looks like the love child of Bill Clinton and Tip O'Neill.

 

[Heyo]

For those of you in the USA who voted for Kamala Harris, is there anything you believe she could have done differently which would have given her victory over Donald Trump? If so, is it something that a future Democrat challenger could employ? Is it something Kamala should have seen in the first place?

I'm not from the US, but from a European perspective, the Dems have totally forgotten where their voter base is. A common problem with center left parties.