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Democrats Are A Threat To Democracy?

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Democrats say that the Republicans are a threat to democracy; however lets take a look at the facts.
1.Biden won 87%+ of the 2024 Democrat primary for 2024
2. Joe Biden has admitted he was effectively pushed out of the presidential race by top Democrats.
3. Pelosi basically admits she was the driving force to take Biden out
The facts?

1. is irrelevant. Biden won the nomination and then declined it. Trump is incensed about it, but too bad. And that does not represent an attack on democracy. If you want to vote for Biden, just go ahead and write him in. This is a nothing burger from a tantrumming infant who only understands his misfortune in terms of him being cheated. It's never bad luck or his fault.

2. and 3. I don't believe, but I'll tell you what I tell all MAGA regarding their grievances about the Democrats, such as that they stole the 2020 election: I don't believe you but wouldn't mind if you were correct.
The more I hear about this, the more I start wondering if the Dems had had this all planned about 6-months ago. The Trump campaign was focused on age and mental ability of their opponent, I'd love it if all along the Dems led them on, and then as late as reasonably possible did the switch.
Maybe. If so, it was a brilliant stroke. The Republicans called it a coup, and they were right (figuratively speaking), but the head that was cut off wasn't Biden's. It was Trump's.

Like you, I don't know if Trump was unlucky or was the victim of a well-orchestrated gotcha, but as I told the poster above, I'm good with either. In this case, I'd prefer to think that Trump was played in the manner you are wondering about. I know he thinks so, and I don't mind that, either. Let him think that black women like James, Willis, Chutkin, and Harris, who he considers his inferior both in gender and race, are dominating and playing with him.

And now Harris has made Trump think he needs to debate her, and it will be on her terms. Ouch.

Do I have any evidence ... no!
Nor do you need any and may never get an answer. It's a logical possibility, and it isn't important to know the answer, even for MAGA. They're stuck with Harris however she got there. And now they have a dynamic VP candidate to deal with. When it was a Biden-Harris ticket until a few weeks ago, she didn't have the role or the visibility Walz does. Neither Biden nor Harris were particularly dynamic, but the Harris-Walz ticket has two joyful, brilliant, talented candidates brimming with momentum and charisma, and Trump and Vance are none of those things.

Trump hasn't been in a swing state campaigning since Harris shamed him where he lives - crowd size - in the same Atlanta venue. He went to Montana, a state not in play, where he knew Harris wouldn't appear and one-up him, and where he expected to have a large, enthusiastic crowd, but didn't get that, and showed us again why his handlers don't want him exposing himself. He rambled, his crowd was relatively quiet, and the speech was panned. This link has a video excerpt: Donald Trump struggles badly during disastrous Montana rally speech

And she's taunting him for being absent from the campaign trail as she did when he refused to debate: "Ok, Donald, get your rest."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Democrats say that the Republicans are a threat to democracy; however lets take a look at the facts.
1.Biden won 87%+ of the 2024 Democrat primary for 2024
2. Joe Biden has admitted he was effectively pushed out of the presidential race by top Democrats.
3. Pelosi basically admits she was the driving force to take Biden out

So, it appears that it was a cabal that forced Biden to step down, not the will of the people.
This opens the conspiracy theories that Harris was also involved in that they waited to almost the last minute to force Biden out ensuring that the far left leaning Harris taking Biden's place. Not doing it sooner to insure that more moderate Democrats would not be able to give the people a chance to determine who that wanted.
Links to supports items 1, 2, and 3

Doesn't sound like democracy does it.
Let's take a look at some facts you left out.....
- Trump ordered Pence to over-turn a Presidential election.
- Trump threatened Secretaries of State with prosecution
if they didn't "find" him the votes he needed.
- Trump had fake electors in many states, prepared to
falsely cast their Electoral College votes for him.
- Trump allowed the insurrection at the Capitol.
- Trump promised to pardon the insurrectionists,
even the ones who injured & killed cops.
- Trump promised Christians that they'd never have
to vote in an election again if he won.
- Trump promised to be a dictator on his 1st day back.
- Trump argued to SCOTUS that he has the legal right
to have political foes assassinated by Seal Team 6.
- Trump promised to persecute media who oppose him.

Trump's cult really wanted to run against the ailing Biden.
Their chances of winning were good. But he's failing
against Harris. What's a good Republican to do?
Argue that Democrats are being undemocratic.
Desperation.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Democrats say that the Republicans are a threat to democracy; however lets take a look at the facts.
1.Biden won 87%+ of the 2024 Democrat primary for 2024
2. Joe Biden has admitted he was effectively pushed out of the presidential race by top Democrats.
3. Pelosi basically admits she was the driving force to take Biden out

So, it appears that it was a cabal that forced Biden to step down, not the will of the people.
This opens the conspiracy theories that Harris was also involved in that they waited to almost the last minute to force Biden out ensuring that the far left leaning Harris taking Biden's place. Not doing it sooner to insure that more moderate Democrats would not be able to give the people a chance to determine who that wanted.
Links to supports items 1, 2, and 3

Doesn't sound like democracy does it.
It's always interesting to me to watch the narratives the right comes up with and then spreads. The people at the top create these weird things that make no sense, and then their followers just latch on and disseminate them everywhere.

This has nothing to do with democracy. Stop just buying everything the right-wing overlords tell you to say. This is just politics. There was no "cabal". There was no conspiracy with Harris. Biden was too old, and that became a big issue. His chances of beating Trump were decreasing, and he was already in a bad position. Most democrats wanted Biden to step aside. So, the people who had the power to do so convinced him to do it for the sake of the party and country.

Sounds just like democracy to me.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Well, according to the right-wing echo chamber, both Biden and Harris are right-wing commies who are going to create gulags for the capitalists. :oops:

Oh wait! Didn't Trump & Co do that when the separated the children from the parents, many of which have still not been reunited?
 
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