Probably another lengthy conversation but I see society and the left wanting men to remain boys and not become men.
Do you see Trump as a man? A criminal, a liar, sexually assaults women, commits fraud as a core motivation in business? The man is insecure, and not strong in any psycholocal sense. He appears strong because some assume his bullying and insults makes a man.
And from the conservative men I have seen and heard who are prominent cvoices of the right they are immature and lack any core integrity. That's not strength in the classic, formal sense. Look at what a gentleman used to be. Modern conservatives are not that. Have you ever heard of chivalry?
There was a series from England called Hornblower about the fictional character Horatio Hornblower, an English naval officer during the Napoleonic wars. In one episode Hornblower and some of his men were prisoners of the French, and during a massive storm there was a French frigate that was in trouble on some coastal rocks. Hornblower told the French officer holding them prisoner that if let him and his men go they would rescue the men on the frigate, and he gave his word he would return. The French agreed and Hornblower and his men rescued the French sailors, but by circumstances they ended up back in the custody of a nearby English ship. The English officer said they were lucky to have escaped the French. But Hornblower said he had to go back. His men weren't obligated, but they agreed to go back as well out of duty and respect. Hornblower turned himself and his man back over to the French, The French officer was so impressed by Hornblower's integrity and honor that he agreed to let tem go, espcially in light that they saved many French sailors.
Now, to my mind this is wat a man is. Not a cheater. Not a liar. Someone who has honor and intergity. How many these days exhibit anywhere near this level of dignity? I'm not seeing it on the right given who they just elected president.
Society seems to want men to accept the status quo and not rock the boat. not risk failure.
Sounds whiny.
Everything in society says women are objects, then when men treat them as objects they are vilified.
Trump does this.
Society does not want to help men battle their sex drive and how they see women.
And Trump will fix this?
The left says porn actresses should not be shamed but men who look at porn are treating women as objects. The left says if you look at a topless woman on a beach, well that is the man fault.
Where does the left say this? Look at your own side that includes Christian idealists who include many who believe women shouldn't work. Your side includes incels. Can you defend their attitdes?
The educated don't deny that men have hormones and have urges that are difficult to manage. It is a matter of character that can manage these impulses. Are you aware that Trump has 26 sexual assault accusations? There was another recently. Be careful what you are critical of when you openly support an immoral and disrespectful man.
They don't like men that are self reliant and don't care about other people approval.
This isn't factual.
Men have a drive to protect women, society and the left says that is misogynistic.
Yet the right openly elected an ajudicated rapist. Help us make sense of your views.
