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Democrats v Republicans

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JIMMY12345

Active Member
One side is Liberal
One side is Conservative
Please advise what is a Liberal and a Conservative. If possible state your country and detail in plain English.
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
JIMMY12345 said:
New One side is Liberal
One side is Conservative
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I think that's an oversimplification as there is both on each side. In turn they belong to a 'coccus' which identifies the differences, making it at times next to impossible to pass legislation agreed to by the party as whole. It is the reason that two previous Speakers resigned.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
Liberalism and conservatism have very little to do with republicans and democrats in the U.S., anymore. The democrats are mostly conservatives and the republicans have gone completely around to the dark side; to embrace fascism. The democrats are trying to preserve what's left of our tattered democracy while the republicans are actively trying to tear it apart and rebuild it so that they get to be in total and perpetual control. They hate any government that demands they compromise with those who disagree with them, so they don't care if they have to destroy it to get what they want. This is radical nihilism, not conservatism.
 
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Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
JIMMY12345 said:
One side is Liberal
One side is Conservative
Please advise what is a Liberal and a Conservative. If possible state your country and detail in plain English.
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I'm from the UK BUT in the US

A Liberal is a right winger
A Conservative is a right wing nut job
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
JIMMY12345 said:
One side is Liberal
One side is Conservative
Please advise what is a Liberal and a Conservative. If possible state your country and detail in plain English.
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Born in the US.
Conservative is less government oversight/intrusion.
Liberal is greater government oversight/intrusion.

Democrat/Republican seem to me both self interested parties which will expand/use government in whatever way that will support their power.
Republicans use more religious orientated propaganda to attract blocks of voters.
Democrats use more identity politics to attract blocks of voters.
 
Ella S.

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
In the US, it's fairly simple.

Each one is a team of right-wing authoritarians; they just have different branding. Liberals brand themselves as the team for marginalized people, despite undermining any movement that would actually help them, and the other brands itself as the choice for the working class, despite largely benefiting their abusive employers.

Both are funded by wealthy special interest groups who lobby for changes that progressively benefit the wealthy elite, contributing to an ever-increasing class division. The representatives of both teams tend to get along with one another behind closed doors, even switching teams for often arbitrary reasons.

It's all a pony show.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Altfish said:
I'm from the UK BUT in the US

A Liberal is a right winger
A Conservative is a right wing nut job
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Political commenters can be equally nut jobs with nutty assessments.

Just overall generalizing. Nothing specific.
 
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JIMMY12345

Active Member
Ella S. said:
In the US, it's fairly simple.

Each one is a team of right-wing authoritarians; they just have different branding. Liberals brand themselves as the team for marginalized people, despite undermining any movement that would actually help them, and the other brands itself as the choice for the working class, despite largely benefiting their abusive employers.

Both are funded by wealthy special interest groups who lobby for changes that progressively benefit the wealthy elite, contributing to an ever-increasing class division. The representatives of both teams tend to get along with one another behind closed doors, even switching teams for often arbitrary reasons.

It's all a pony show.
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Ella can you give an or examples of who is funding the liberals please?
I dare say that you are correct but trying to think of good examples.
 
PureX

PureX

Veteran Member
JIMMY12345 said:
Ella can you give an or examples of who is funding the liberals please?
I dare say that you are correct but trying to think of good examples.
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The oil conglomerates. The insurance conglomerates. The pharmaceutical conglomerates. The health care conglomerates. The communications conglomerates. The transportation conglomerates. The housing conglomerates. The agricultural conglomerates. ... And by conglomerates I mean business consortiums that pool their money and electoral influence to buy both access to and special consideration from lawmakers to further their their own commercial aims. And they buy off both parties so that it never matters who wins an election. They own the winner either way.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Altfish said:
I'm from the UK BUT in the US

A Liberal is a right winger
A Conservative is a right wing nut job
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"Right" varies in definition too.
Sometimes it means economic liberty.
Other times it means authoritarian (which
can happen in leftish regimes too).

In Ameristan, there are general....
Perceptions (not always correct wrong) &
Tendencies (not always true of an individual).

Liberal: Big government, higher taxes, secular,
pro-LGBLT, pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration,
pro-black.
Conservative: Small government, lower taxes,
theocratic Christian, anti-LGBLT, anti-abortion.
anti-illegal immigration, anti-black.

Notice the many problem between perceptions
& tendencies, eg...
Conservatives are thought of as "small government",
but they're also thought of as Republican...which
is a party that also pursues bigger government.
Conservatives are thought of as anti-LGBT, yet
many liberals have opposed gay marriage when
some conservatives favored it.
 
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Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
"Right" varies in definition too.
Sometimes it means economic liberty.
Other times it means authoritarian.

In Ameristan, there are general....
Perceptions (not always correct wrong) &
Tendencies (not always true of an individual).

Liberal: Big government, higher taxes, secular,
pro-LGBLT, pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration,
pro-black.
Conservative: Small government, lower taxes,
theocratic Christian, anti-LGBLT, anti-abortion.
anti-illegal immigration, anti-black.

Notice the many problem between perceptions
& tendencies, eg...
Conservatives are thought of as "small government",
but they're also thought of as Republican...which
is a party that also pursues bigger government.
Conservatives are thought of as anti-LGBT, yet
many liberals have opposed gay marriage when
some conservatives favored it.
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Liberal in the UK means middle of the road, certainly to the right of Labour
 
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