Democrats will not take money from fossil fuels.

[Stevicus]

I completely agree, but some of these things involve legeslation that is voted on by politicians who take huge donations from oil companies. And they are clearly doing the bidding of those oil companies and not what is in the best interest of the voters (or future voters).

I know what you mean, although Marlon Brando makes some interesting points to George C. Scott in this scene from the movie The Formula.

(For those who haven't seen the movie, George C. Scott is in the role of a police lieutenant trying to solve a murder case, while Brando plays a big oil executive. As the murder case unravels, Scott learns of the existence of a formula for synthetic fuel which was used by the Nazis during WW2, which used coal instead of petroleum. He also learns that the big oil companies had been covering up this formula for decades as a way of artificially creating "oil shortages" to drive up the price. All of the witnesses he interviewed ended up mysteriously killed, so he has nothing left to build his case against the oil exec, but goes to confront him just the same, culminating in the following dialogue.)

At the end, they show George C. Scott and his partner walking across a bridge overlooking an LA freeway, jam packed full of cars - creating pollution and using gas.

He did have a point, though. Gasoline helped nourish the "American Dream."

"We're the great American [breast], Barney, and without it, there ain't no America."

In a way, those who propagate such myths about the so-called "American Dream" could be considered just as much to blame (and counter to the interests of Americans) as the oil companies. There's a much larger picture here to look at.

 

[metis]

Hypocrites.

False, as it is the Dems, not so much the Pubs, that have long championed environmental concerns.

So, your charge of "Hypocrites" is hypocritical.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

The irony is that instead of taking money from fossil fuel suppliers,
they'll just be giving them money for their SUVs & Gulfstreams.
But this is just about appearances rather than substance.
They should be changing public policy for the better,
eg, raising fuel taxes to curb burning it wantonly.

 

[David1967]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations



I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

Is it a good headline to get support from their base? 'Yes'
Do I think they will actually not take money from fossil fuels? 'No'
I think we may be a bit surprised (or not), where some of the money comes from.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

That does not make them hypocrites. Right now oil is hard to avoid. Taking money from oil companies is likely to taint a congressman's lawmaking. If no one in congress took money from oil companies they would be much more likely to make laws enabling us to get this monkey off our back, at least in my opinion.

 

[Milton Platt]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations



I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

Smoke and mirrors again. None of the large energy companies derive their entire income from fossil fuel projects. All are also involved in solar, geothermal, wind, nuclear, and other sources to various degrees.
So if company "A" is a solar panel manufacturer that is owned or has a portion of it's stock owned by say, Exxon, do you accept the money from company "A" or not?

 

[PureX]

What ***holes, refusing to take bribes from big oil.

You've misunderstood. They only claimed they weren't taking campaign contributions for them. Bribery, of course, comes in forms far more wide-ranging then campaign contributions. And how much you wanna bet they're still sucking those up like a 1965 Hoover.

 

[Audie]

That does not make them hypocrites. Right now oil is hard to avoid. Taking money from oil companies is likely to taint a congressman's lawmaking. If no one in congress took money from oil companies they would be much more likely to make laws enabling us to get this monkey off our back, at least in my opinion.

Hard? Impossible.

 

[Quetzal]

You've misunderstood. They only claimed they weren't taking campaign contributions for them. Bribery, of course, comes in forms far more wide-ranging then campaign contributions. And how much you wanna bet they're still sucking those up like a 1965 Hoover.

Fair enough.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hard? Impossible.

Become Amish.
It can be pretty darned close.

 

[Audie]

Become Amish.
It can be pretty darned close.

Oil or religion..guess I will stick with oil.

Cant run NYC on horse manure.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why is it necessarily hypocritical?

Just Watch What Happens.

Some backroom deal will be made and the money will just flow in from another direction into their political coffers with fingers crossed that no one will be the wiser.

 

[tytlyf]

Good, but I haven't found a single democrat in office that thinks climate change is a hoax. You can tell who is really bought and paid for by the Kochs.

 

[tytlyf]

Oil or religion..guess I will stick with oil.

Cant run NYC on horse manure.

I prefer the sun or wind. Less pollution in the air and water. They get rich while we get sick. Then Big Healthcare gets the other end of the profit stick.

Regulations are safety laws and have good reason for being implemented.

 

[Audie]

I prefer the sun or wind. Less pollution in the air and water. They get rich while we get sick. Then Big Healthcare gets the other end of the profit stick.

Regulations are safety laws and have good reason for being implemented.

the wind could take up to 6 months to get a sailing ship form London to NYC

wind and sun will never get an airplane off theground

 

[fantome profane]

the wind could take up to 6 months to get a sailing ship form London to NYC

wind and sun will never get an airplane off theground

But a wind and solar powered clothes dryer can be very effective.

 

[Shad]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations
I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

Some of those same Big Oil companies, like BP, are involved in renewable energy. So I am skeptical that this is nothing more than platitudes using keywords while donations can accepted under another label. Much like the Paris Accords which had a number of Big Oil companies not only supporting but signed on as part of the business end of the deal. With this in mind the GOP could cater to those companies while also promoting the renewable energy side of those business to "steal the glory" when it becomes more mainstream. Look at the automobile industry as an example. The same companies producing the gas guzzlers people were against are now selling alternative energy vehicles.

 

[tytlyf]

the wind could take up to 6 months to get a sailing ship form London to NYC

wind and sun will never get an airplane off theground

You don't understand wind power. Look at your logic again..

Electricity will get airplanes off the ground, just like cars.

You believe climate change is a hoax right? I've seen people repeat the same junk.

 

[Flame]

sun will never get an airplane off theground

 

[Twilight Hue]

Some of those same Big Oil companies, like BP, are involved in renewable energy. .

Bingo. It's a good way to funnel oil money through the veneer of ecology. Who's going to look bad accepting money from sources involved in renewable energy?