Democrats will not take money from fossil fuels.

[fantome profane]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations

The Democratic National Committee voted over the weekend to ban donations from fossil fuel companies, HuffPost has learned.

The resolution ― proposed by Christine Pelosi, a party activist and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s daughter ― bars the organization from accepting contributions from corporate political action committees tied to the oil, gas and coal industries. The executive committee voted unanimously to approve the motion.

“We talk about how climate change is real and climate change is a planetary emergency, what we need to do is stop taking money from the institutions that have created this crisis,” said RL Miller, president of the super PAC Climate Hawks Vote Political Action and a co-author of the resolution.

National Committee voted over the weekend to ban donations from fossil fuel companies, HuffPost has learned.

The resolution ― proposed by Christine Pelosi, a party activist and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s daughter ― bars the organization from accepting contributions from corporate political action committees tied to the oil, gas and coal industries. The executive committee voted unanimously to approve the motion.

“We talk about how climate change is real and climate change is a planetary emergency, what we need to do is stop taking money from the institutions that have created this crisis,” said RL Miller, president of the super PAC Climate Hawks Vote Political Action and a co-author of the resolution.

I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

That is so antitrump.

 

[Sunstone]

I completely agree with the OP here.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Probably not a wise move on their part, as it can be easily used to further the divide between the Democrats and the Working Class, and perhaps viewed as going "too Left" for some moderates during such a crucial election. If Republicans win this year, and Mueller's investigation ends and fails to result in indictment or impeachment of Trump, Trump will stand a good chance at wining 2020.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Probably not a wise move on their part, as it can be easily used to further the divide between the Democrats and the Working Class, and perhaps viewed as going "too Left" for some moderates during such a crucial election. If Republicans win this year, and Mueller's investigation ends and fails to result in indictment or impeachment of Trump, Trump will stand a good chance at wining 2020.

Who gives a **** when the world has gone mad? No time for comfort.

 

[Twilight Hue]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations



I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

 

[Stevicus]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations



I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

Well, it sounds good, although I'm not sure how much they were getting from fossil fuel companies before this ban.

There might be other areas to focus upon in terms of global warming, especially if it's at the level of a "planetary emergency" like they say.

1. Overpopulation
2. Lack of public transportation or other options
3. Too many SUVs and other gas guzzlers out there
4. Irresponsible energy consumption/waste

There's a big push towards wanting to modernize and industrialize the developing world, which seems a laudable goal, but that will just lead to more energy consumption.

A while back, I came across an article about how air conditioners are in increasing demand in India. Most people don't have them, but they want them, and more people are getting to the point where they'll be able to afford them.

The same trend can be expected in other developing countries as well. They'll be wanting more infrastructure, electricity in every home, air conditioning, appliances, TVs, cellphones, computers, cars (and the roads to drive them on). And why shouldn't they want these things? The West has them.

 

[PureX]

I predict it's mostly empty rhetoric. And why just the oil companies and not the big banks, or the insurance lobby, or the pharmaceutical lobby, or the gun lobby, or the ...

 

[Audie]

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

Show me a biofuel that does not take more petroleum
to produce than you get back out, and I will show you
one that gets no subsidy.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

DNC Quietly Adopts Ban On Fossil Fuel Company Donations



I believe this is a good idea, I think it is the right thing to do. I am not sure if it will help in the midterms, but at least we see them drawing a line of distinction between themselves and the Republicans. There is still more to do, but this is a start.

Does this also apply to individual candidates or is this ban just for donations to the national committee?

 

[columbus]

Well, it sounds good, although I'm not sure how much they were getting from fossil fuel companies before this ban.

Given the current political landscape, I doubt that this is much more than "The Fox and the Grapes" grandstanding.
Tom

 

[fantome profane]

Does this also apply to individual candidates or is this ban just for donations to the national committee?

That is a really good question. It looks like this is only about the DNC.
So it is less of a big deal than I had thought, but it is still something.

And I do know an increasing list of individual candidates who have made this pledge as well, It is start.

 

[columbus]

There's a big push towards wanting to modernize and industrialize the developing world, which seems a laudable goal, but that will just lead to more energy consumption.

A while back, I came across an article about how air conditioners are in increasing demand in India. Most people don't have them, but they want them, and more people are getting to the point where they'll be able to afford them.

The same trend can be expected in other developing countries as well. They'll be wanting more infrastructure, electricity in every home, air conditioning, appliances, TVs, cellphones, computers, cars (and the roads to drive them on). And why shouldn't they want these things? The West has them.

I believe that this is the real population/ environmental disaster looming.
Largely due to internet access, the world's poorest billions are becoming increasingly aware of what the wealthier people have. And they want it too.
They're a lot less likely to just suffer and work until they drop, the way that they have for all of history.

And when they really start demanding a more equitable distribution of resources, the developed world will go to war before they give up their privilege. I fully expect a devastating global war during the lifetime of the children over that.
Tom

 

[fantome profane]

There might be other areas to focus upon in terms of global warming, especially if it's at the level of a "planetary emergency" like they say.

1. Overpopulation
2. Lack of public transportation or other options
3. Too many SUVs and other gas guzzlers out there
4. Irresponsible energy consumption/waste

I completely agree, but some of these things involve legeslation that is voted on by politicians who take huge donations from oil companies. And they are clearly doing the bidding of those oil companies and not what is in the best interest of the voters (or future voters).

 

[Audie]

I believe that this is the real population/ environmental disaster looming.
Largely due to internet access, the world's poorest billions are becoming increasingly aware of what the wealthier people have. And they want it too.
They're a lot less likely to just suffer and work until they drop, the way that they have for all of history.

And when they really start demanding a more equitable distribution of resources, the developed world will go to war before they give up their privilege. I fully expect a devastating global war during the lifetime of the children over that.
Tom

You are going to get "the developing world" to
form a united front?

Who are they going to go to war with, China?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

Why is it necessarily hypocritical?

 

[columbus]

You are going to get "the developing world" to
form a united front?

Who are they going to go to war with, China?

And Russia.

I expect 3 poles, USA and China and Russia, with other countries falling into one of the three orbits.

I think that if there are any historians left at the end of the 21st century they will see the Iraqi Oil Grab of 2003 as the beginning of the war.
ETA ~I expect most of the developing world to align with either Russia or China.
Tom

 

[Quetzal]

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

What ***holes, refusing to take bribes from big oil.

 

[Quetzal]

Why is it necessarily hypocritical?

It isn't.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Hypocrites. Unless of course, they all are driving electric cars not relying on gasoline whatsoever. Oh wait a minute biodiesel. Almost forgot.

Anyways, I wonder how long that will last?

What a nonsequitur.