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Thou art That
You should read more Plato:
I know that I know nothing. "I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know."
But you do, and you make it a point at every opportunity to let everyone know that you do, via your years of training and study, while feigning humility. Why do you feel such a great need to reference your learning in order to make your point, or to publish Greek or Sanskrit (knowing full well that hardly anyone here has a clue as to what it means)?
You're just a pedant, Legion. Stop trying to beat people up with your 'superior knowledge'. It smacks of the fundie who uses the Bible as a weapon.
Even saying that 'I do not fancy I know what I do not know' is just another device the ego uses to make one appear wise. What gives you away is the fact that you continue to make a point of all your learning and training, to let everyone know that you 'know'. It's cheap advertisement.
How would you know? What master trained you? What do you know of mysticism that you comes from something you didn't buy or find online? You mock my qigong instructor, but I trained for years in Japanese and Chinese traditional practices of meditation, martial arts, and medicine. You had google.
...and STILL you know JackS***! All you have, Legion, are the TRAPPINGS of knowledge. You just rattle, and puff yourself up to make yourself appear bigger than you really are, like a short man who wears elevated shoes to make himself appear taller than he really is. Let's put all your so-called 'learning' and years of 'training' under your masters aside and let's see what you REALLY know, instead of just the hiccup of 'perhaps'. And when, Legion, will you cease your attachment to all those 'masters', and stand on your own? After all, Legion, they're just dummies you cart around with you as props and ornaments, like so much excess baggage.
How do I know that dedicated study is not a necessary component of mystical understanding? Because, Legion, mystical understanding is the experience of seeing directly what is, and what is, is independent of that which attempts to make a study of it. 'What is', Legion, cannot be encapsulated in idea, concept, image, or thought of any kind, which is what study is. Why? Because the nature of the divine is infinite. No amount of study can define it. All thought or concept about the infinite are obstacles. 'Dedicated study' must be put aside before mystical understanding can occur. All books, all scripture, are word-symbols that attempt to encapsulate that which is indefinable. All they can do is to point to the infinite. That is where they leave off, and the mind which sees comes into play. We then enter into the Silent World, where true Reality is, where there is no thought, no history, no memory, no time, no space, no cause. Here, there is no more 'study' or 'scholarship', which are functions of the mind. Here there is no mind, which is but a self-created principle; an illusion. That is how I know.
So, Legion. How do you know that 'dedicated study is a necessary component of mystical understanding'? How is that so, Legion?
I've read Matthew in Greek. I've read the early Christian and Jewish literature that relates to it. You looked up Mithras on the internet and got sensationalist crap.
You've read Matthew in Greek but what do you understand? Nada! If you did, you would have understood what Yeshu was saying in Matt18, would'nt you have? But you did'nt then, and you don't now, because you're hung up on the glitter of having 'read Matthew in Greek', which you wear like an ornament. Shiny, but alas, fake.
...complete alien to you. It takes time and effort, like all of the people (even Chopra) you've held up as examples. You just don't feel the need to follow their example because it's easier to make omniscient claims that can't be falsified thanks to Almighty Google.
If my claims cannot be falsified, why do you labor under the impression that you are doing just that? You're just talking out of your academic hat, which I've put a little dent in, and now you're personally offended, and you need to appear gallant and righteous, but only turn out to be defensive and offensive in the process. All an empty shell that just continues to rattle, Legion, "the sound and the fury, signifying Nothing!". Once you get past your head, Legion, that is when you may begin.
But you're correct about one thing: I don't follow their examples because I think for myself. I don't require crutches from academia.
]द्रष्टा दृशिमात्रः शुद्धोऽपि प्रत्ययानुपश्यः ॥२०॥
]दृग्दर्शनशक्त्योरेकात्मतेवास्मिता ॥६
More egoic, pedantic gobbledegook that no one here cares about or can read. What this really says is: "I have nowhere left to hide except behind the color of pedantic authority disguised as wisdom. Fawlty Towers about to crumble into dust.
If you had really learned anything from of all those years of training and meditation under your masters, you would know better than to have to continually make a point of it by drawing attention to yourself. In Zen, we say: "It takes seven full years to get over the stink of Enlightenment".
When have I ever mocked your QiGong instructor? Now you're being just plain silly!
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