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Desantis' Election Police Intimidating Signers of Ballot Initiative Petition

Wandering Monk

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Florida Police Showing Up at the Homes of Voters Who Signed Abortion Rights Petition​


Florida law enforcement agencies have reportedly been going to homes of residents who signed a petition to get an abortion rights initiative on the November ballot in that state. The police involvement comes as part of a larger investigation launched by Governor Ron DeSantis after the Department of State claimed the signature gathering process for Amendment 4 was fraudulent.

A Fort Meyers resident named Isaac Menache posted on Facebook that he was visited by a detective investigating "petition fraud." Menache said the plained clothes detective had a file on him that was ten pages long, that included a copy of his drivers' license, and a copy of the petition he signed.

Menache said the experience left him "shaken."

Another Lee County resident, Becky Castellanos had a similar experience. Castellanos said the officer showed his badge and left his card after interrogating her on a family member's signature on the petition.

"This is unhinged and undemocratic behavior being pushed by Governor Ron DeSantis in an effort to continue our state’s near total abortion ban,” Florida state Representative Anna Eskamani wrote in a post. "It’s clear voter intimidation and plain corruption—continue to call it out and fight back."

The law enforcement presence is part of a larger effort by the DeSantis administration to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the abortion referendum petition, which received a million signatures, more than enough to qualify for the November ballot.

First reported by the Tampa Bay Times, the Supervisors of Elections in the major urban areas of Tampa, Orlando, Kissimmee and Palm Beach have been ordered to closely scrutinize tens of thousands of signatures on petitions to get the abortion amendment on ballot.

Two Supervisors told the Times that they had never been asked to do anything like this before by the state.

"I have never in my tenure had a request like this one," said Osceola County Supervisor of Elections Mary Jane Arrington, a Democrat who has been in the job for 16 years.

Recent polling showed the abortion rights referendum, Amendment 4, has 70% support, which would enshrine abortion access in the state constitution after DeSantis passed a near-total abortion ban earlier this year.

The Amendment 4 campaign has also petitioned to strike state-written language on Amendment 4 from voter information materials, after the DeSantis administration included deceptive language that made it sound like the abortion rights amendment would negatively impact the state budget.

 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member

Florida Police Showing Up at the Homes of Voters Who Signed Abortion Rights Petition​


Florida law enforcement agencies have reportedly been going to homes of residents who signed a petition to get an abortion rights initiative on the November ballot in that state. The police involvement comes as part of a larger investigation launched by Governor Ron DeSantis after the Department of State claimed the signature gathering process for Amendment 4 was fraudulent.

A Fort Meyers resident named Isaac Menache posted on Facebook that he was visited by a detective investigating "petition fraud." Menache said the plained clothes detective had a file on him that was ten pages long, that included a copy of his drivers' license, and a copy of the petition he signed.

Menache said the experience left him "shaken."

Another Lee County resident, Becky Castellanos had a similar experience. Castellanos said the officer showed his badge and left his card after interrogating her on a family member's signature on the petition.

"This is unhinged and undemocratic behavior being pushed by Governor Ron DeSantis in an effort to continue our state’s near total abortion ban,” Florida state Representative Anna Eskamani wrote in a post. "It’s clear voter intimidation and plain corruption—continue to call it out and fight back."

The law enforcement presence is part of a larger effort by the DeSantis administration to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the abortion referendum petition, which received a million signatures, more than enough to qualify for the November ballot.

First reported by the Tampa Bay Times, the Supervisors of Elections in the major urban areas of Tampa, Orlando, Kissimmee and Palm Beach have been ordered to closely scrutinize tens of thousands of signatures on petitions to get the abortion amendment on ballot.

Two Supervisors told the Times that they had never been asked to do anything like this before by the state.

"I have never in my tenure had a request like this one," said Osceola County Supervisor of Elections Mary Jane Arrington, a Democrat who has been in the job for 16 years.

Recent polling showed the abortion rights referendum, Amendment 4, has 70% support, which would enshrine abortion access in the state constitution after DeSantis passed a near-total abortion ban earlier this year.

The Amendment 4 campaign has also petitioned to strike state-written language on Amendment 4 from voter information materials, after the DeSantis administration included deceptive language that made it sound like the abortion rights amendment would negatively impact the state budget.


Ugh. Has anyone from the Federal government or any legal scholars weighed in on this? I don't think they can send out the police to question people about a petition they signed. That would seem to me to be unconstitutional.

Don't the police have anything better to do? A file that's ten pages long?

It makes me wonder how many pages there are in my file.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member

Florida Police Showing Up at the Homes of Voters Who Signed Abortion Rights Petition​


Florida law enforcement agencies have reportedly been going to homes of residents who signed a petition to get an abortion rights initiative on the November ballot in that state. The police involvement comes as part of a larger investigation launched by Governor Ron DeSantis after the Department of State claimed the signature gathering process for Amendment 4 was fraudulent.

A Fort Meyers resident named Isaac Menache posted on Facebook that he was visited by a detective investigating "petition fraud." Menache said the plained clothes detective had a file on him that was ten pages long, that included a copy of his drivers' license, and a copy of the petition he signed.

Menache said the experience left him "shaken."

Another Lee County resident, Becky Castellanos had a similar experience. Castellanos said the officer showed his badge and left his card after interrogating her on a family member's signature on the petition.

"This is unhinged and undemocratic behavior being pushed by Governor Ron DeSantis in an effort to continue our state’s near total abortion ban,” Florida state Representative Anna Eskamani wrote in a post. "It’s clear voter intimidation and plain corruption—continue to call it out and fight back."

The law enforcement presence is part of a larger effort by the DeSantis administration to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the abortion referendum petition, which received a million signatures, more than enough to qualify for the November ballot.

First reported by the Tampa Bay Times, the Supervisors of Elections in the major urban areas of Tampa, Orlando, Kissimmee and Palm Beach have been ordered to closely scrutinize tens of thousands of signatures on petitions to get the abortion amendment on ballot.

Two Supervisors told the Times that they had never been asked to do anything like this before by the state.

"I have never in my tenure had a request like this one," said Osceola County Supervisor of Elections Mary Jane Arrington, a Democrat who has been in the job for 16 years.

Recent polling showed the abortion rights referendum, Amendment 4, has 70% support, which would enshrine abortion access in the state constitution after DeSantis passed a near-total abortion ban earlier this year.

The Amendment 4 campaign has also petitioned to strike state-written language on Amendment 4 from voter information materials, after the DeSantis administration included deceptive language that made it sound like the abortion rights amendment would negatively impact the state budget.

Has anybody checked this with a lawyer? Don't they need approval from a judge or at least DA for such an "investigation"?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

Florida Police Showing Up at the Homes of Voters Who Signed Abortion Rights Petition​


Florida law enforcement agencies have reportedly been going to homes of residents who signed a petition to get an abortion rights initiative on the November ballot in that state. The police involvement comes as part of a larger investigation launched by Governor Ron DeSantis after the Department of State claimed the signature gathering process for Amendment 4 was fraudulent.

A Fort Meyers resident named Isaac Menache posted on Facebook that he was visited by a detective investigating "petition fraud." Menache said the plained clothes detective had a file on him that was ten pages long, that included a copy of his drivers' license, and a copy of the petition he signed.

Menache said the experience left him "shaken."

Another Lee County resident, Becky Castellanos had a similar experience. Castellanos said the officer showed his badge and left his card after interrogating her on a family member's signature on the petition.

"This is unhinged and undemocratic behavior being pushed by Governor Ron DeSantis in an effort to continue our state’s near total abortion ban,” Florida state Representative Anna Eskamani wrote in a post. "It’s clear voter intimidation and plain corruption—continue to call it out and fight back."

The law enforcement presence is part of a larger effort by the DeSantis administration to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the abortion referendum petition, which received a million signatures, more than enough to qualify for the November ballot.

First reported by the Tampa Bay Times, the Supervisors of Elections in the major urban areas of Tampa, Orlando, Kissimmee and Palm Beach have been ordered to closely scrutinize tens of thousands of signatures on petitions to get the abortion amendment on ballot.

Two Supervisors told the Times that they had never been asked to do anything like this before by the state.

"I have never in my tenure had a request like this one," said Osceola County Supervisor of Elections Mary Jane Arrington, a Democrat who has been in the job for 16 years.

Recent polling showed the abortion rights referendum, Amendment 4, has 70% support, which would enshrine abortion access in the state constitution after DeSantis passed a near-total abortion ban earlier this year.

The Amendment 4 campaign has also petitioned to strike state-written language on Amendment 4 from voter information materials, after the DeSantis administration included deceptive language that made it sound like the abortion rights amendment would negatively impact the state budget.

I'm sure it's just another ridiculous story spinned out of proportion.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Has anybody checked this with a lawyer? Don't they need approval from a judge or at least DA for such an "investigation"?
At least your post is sensible. If there's any real actual wrongdoing, the courts will be the ones who determine it.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I'm sure it's just another ridiculous story spinned out of proportion.

Of course. When something like this happens i always assume it the victims lying rather than the politicians instigating fascism.

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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Ugh. Has anyone from the Federal government or any legal scholars weighed in on this? I don't think they can send out the police to question people about a petition they signed. That would seem to me to be unconstitutional.

Don't the police have anything better to do? A file that's ten pages long?

It makes me wonder how many pages there are in my file.
Yeah, mine too.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Right wingers "hate" big government, unless it's your BIG GOVERNMENT.

Bingo!!!

The Tumpettes are not conservatives as Liz & Dick Cheney and some other Republicans who are conservatives have said.

Trump is a neo-fascist, which is why he's friends with Putin, Kim, Orban, Chi, etc. His first wife Ivana said he regularly read NAZI materials that he kept at his bedside.
 
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