DeSantis Trying to Force Chaplains in Schools

[We Never Know]

Comparative religion, Sociological implications of religion, History of religions, Psychology of religion, Anthropology of religion -- these I wouldn't object to.
But be warned -- they could make students think, even question. What would parents have to say about this?

"What would parents have to say about this?"

I'm sure there would be complaints as there are now on other subjects.

 

[Soandso]

Majoring in religious studies offers you a lens into other cultures and perspectives from around the world. You'll learn about different theologies from an academic perspective and gain new insight into how and why people have the beliefs they do, as well as how they express and practice them.

Eh... Majoring in a Theology offers access to the same careers that majoring in Religious Studies does and more. Seems like a more useful degree

That said, I'd go for neither. STEM is the way to go, imo

 

[We Never Know]

There is no "could be" about it.

The more people involved in teaching, the more exposure to prejudice.

Agreed

 

[Valjean]

Eh... Majoring in a Theology offers access to the same careers that majoring in Religious Studies does and more. Seems like a more useful degree

That said, I'd go for neither. STEM is the way to go, imo

Me, I see the purpose of higher education as enhancing one's appreciation of the world and, thus, enjoyment of life.
Economics, computer engineering, law, &c. are trade school subjects -- lucrative, but illuminating only small sections of the Big Picture.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Religious Education as taught in the UK, Australia etc does a good job of creating atheists.

That would be a proper way to do it. And it would even pass Constitutional muster. But it is the last thing that people like DeSantis want.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Teach it like college courses... Don't focus on one, explore many.

You don't need many teachers, Someone with a degree in religious studies would suffice.

Majoring in religious studies offers you a lens into other cultures and perspectives from around the world. You'll learn about different theologies from an academic perspective and gain new insight into how and why people have the beliefs they do, as well as how they express and practice them.

That would be fine. But that is exactly what the DeSantis sorts would oppose. I would have no problem with that.

 

[fantome profane]

The point is, there's just One True History. There are conflicting claims and many different interpretations, but history remains fact-based, not faith-based.
Actual, objective facts exist, and are open to research. This is not true of religion.

But you can teach religion that way. You don't even try to teach "truth" about spiritual supernatural elements. You simply teach what is believed. Christians believe this, Muslims believe this, Hindus believe this... etc.

I took a world religion class in high school (a million years ago), and it was not controversial, and I never asked who was paying for it (I went to public school).

 

[We Never Know]

Comparative religion, Sociological implications of religion, History of religions, Psychology of religion, Anthropology of religion -- these I wouldn't object to.
But be warned -- they could make students think, even question. What would parents have to say about this?

Being you brought up history, they teach world history. Why not world religion? Don't focus on just one.

 

[Pogo]

My point is, if you have to employ a half dozen teachers of the various Christian denominations, another half dozen for the Hindus, more for the Muslims, Sikhs, Shintoists, Buddhists, Jews, &al, that could run into real money.
Add the fact that they'd be teaching conflicting doctrines, and you'd get a pretty confused -- if not antagonistic -- student body.

This is what Religious Education is in the Empire.
NATIONAL CONTENT STANDARD FOR RELIGIOUS EDUCATION IN ENGLAND

Purpose of study1 An education in religion and worldviews should: • introduce pupils to the rich diversity of religion and non-religion, locally and globally, as a key part of understanding how the world works and what it means to be human • stimulate pupils’ curiosity about, and interest in, this diversity of worldviews, both religious and non-religious • expand upon how worldviews work, and how different worldviews, religious and non-religious, influence individuals, communities and society • develop pupils’ awareness that learning about worldviews involves interpreting the significance and meaning of information they study • develop pupils’ appreciation of the complexity of worldviews, and sensitivity to the problems of religious language and experience • induct pupils into the processes and scholarly methods by which we can study religion, religious and non-religious worldviews • enable pupils, by the end of their studies, to identify positions and presuppositions of different academic disciplines and their implications for understanding • give pupils opportunities to explore the relationship between religious worldviews and literature, culture and the arts • include pupils in the enterprise of interrogating the sources of their own developing worldviews and how they may benefit from exploring the rich and complex heritage of humanity • provide opportunities for pupils to reflect on the relationship between their personal worldviews and the content studied, equipping them to develop their own informed responses in the light of their learning.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

Being you brought up history, they teach world history. Why not world religion? Don't focus on just one.

It's already part of history and social studies. We do not need it being taught in public schools the way the southern states wants it taught. They want christian indoctrination and have made no secret about their intentions. Ridiculous enough the bible belt already treats creationism and young earth theory as fact, trying to erase the civil war and the holocaust as made-up, while stating evolution false and sex ed a sin in their own public schools. Public schools are for education not bible thumping, fact erasure, and hate rhetoric. There are actual religious schools for that.

 

[metis]

Well, if you just concentrate on learning trades and don't teach them to think logically or reason abstractly, thinking on their own likely wouldn't occur to them. Without history or civics instruction they might not think of alternatives, either
A brave new world of peace and stability.

Yep, and this is why the NAZI's banned courses in what we call "social studies" so they could teach their own version.

 

[metis]

Who would pay for the studies? Wouldn't we have to give the various religions equal time? Would teaching contradictory facts in different classes cause any problems?

I taught a comparative religions course for a couple of years in a public high school, and it actually went over very well. I'll spare you the details.

 

[Valjean]

I taught a comparative religions course for a couple of years in a public high school, and it actually went over very well. I'll spare you the details.

I wonder how it would go down today, in some of the conservative regions.
Evangelicals are already leery of sending their kids to college; exposing them to "radical, anti-religious, left-wing propaganda from socialist teachers." I fear exposing young minds to novel social, political or religious ideas, even in high school, would generate a lot of popular opposition.

 

[Pogo]

I wonder how it would go down today, in some of the conservative regions.
Evangelicals are already leery of sending their kids to college; exposing them to "radical, anti-religious, left-wing propaganda from socialist teachers." I fear exposing young minds to novel social, political or religious ideas, even in high school, would generate a lot of popular opposition.

Maybe we need to need to institute a mandatory civics curriculum that deals with the human interaction and understandings?

 

[metis]

I wonder how it would go down today, in some of the conservative regions.
Evangelicals are already leery of sending their kids to college; exposing them to "radical, anti-religious, left-wing propaganda from socialist teachers." I fear exposing young minds to novel social, political or religious ideas, even in high school, would generate a lot of popular opposition.

Oh, I very much tend to agree with you.

I live and taught here in the Detroit area, and when I've talked to some educators in the western part of the state, which is much more conservative, the "rules" are VERY different. In my Anthropology course, I had to be quite blunt with my students and I told them on the first day that they would hear and see things that might shock or even upset them. I then told them if they thought this would bother them, please drop the class immediately. Teaching the course for 30 years, I never had a single student drop because of that and never had an angry parent call.

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

I wonder how it would go down today, in some of the conservative regions.
Evangelicals are already leery of sending their kids to college; exposing them to "radical, anti-religious, left-wing propaganda from socialist teachers." I fear exposing young minds to novel social, political or religious ideas, even in high school, would generate a lot of popular opposition.

And yet they have no problem wanting to brainwash and parent everyone else's kids

 

[Valjean]

And yet they have no problem wanting to brainwash and parent everyone else's kids

?????