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Developing faith
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Josh Nyams
New Member
You develop faith by believing and through your actions. For faith without actions is dead.:yes:
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
When I relaxed it developed itself
blackout
Violet.
That's a great answer Stephen.
Whenever I block mySelf from REALizing/developing/doing a thing...
from that open State of Flexible Flowing Confident Being
it is almost always because I am not relaxed enough.
Sure the "practice" of experimentation/exploration and sucessful repetition
is key,
but if you are not relaxing into what you are engaged in,
chances are,
you are really engaging in SOMETHING else.
(ie... doubt... self flagilation... noisy chatter... mockery...fear of failure...
fear of success... fear of change attatchments... fear of rejection... past experience...
fear of changed Self image... weakness or overagrandizement of current Self Image...
NEED FOR OUTCOME.... instead of experience, of the experience itself.)
Faith for me is not noisy.
It is more the suspension of doubt.
It is an Open State of Being...
an Open experience of Self and Life.
It is intuitive, spontanious and free,
having FAR more to do with being... and experiencing,
than "thinking".
More to do with intuition... and Self guided exploration,
than books, experts, scholars and tradition.
it's the idea that you CAN succeed at what appeals to YOU in Life and Living.
And then you just do it, a little at a time...
from a place of inner peace.
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Dan4reason
Facts not Faith
Assume that your belief is true and live by it. Explain things that happen by what you believe. Shut out any opposing arguments against the belief. Look for even the most weak evidence for your believe such as feelings of the spirit and miracles. When it comes to a miracle you must interpret unlikely or very fortunate events as supernatural. In conclusion, if you want faith, don't think critically, just assume.
blackout
Violet.
The suspension of disbelief for the sake of a working
can yeild reality shifting results,
in accordance with the resultant shift in perspective.
Once the working is done,
the observation of Self and Surroundings
from an Open field of Unassuming Psyche
is what you Be-Live.
It is your "judgement free" experience of Self and Being.
You really only need to have faith in Your Own
inherent ability to observe from the Source of Self
(independent of all the noisy chatter... that says "this" and "that"....)
(or thought "critical" of the Self)
Mostly everyone loves to be a "critic" though. so.....
Dan4reason
Facts not Faith
In your opinion, what should I have faith in? How will I know that I am right?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
I'll repeat what I said in a similar thread: faith isn't something you can force, however you define the word.
That said, clear communication is important. What do you mean when you say "faith?"
Also, why would you want to develop it? What, if anything, are you seeking?
Antibush5
Active Member
Well I remember when I was younger, I tried out Islam and I didn' care about other religions, I would pray 5 times a day, I wonder why people didn't becoe Muslim, you could say I was a fanatic.
That to me is proper fiath, because it was so "overpowering"
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
So, to you "proper faith" is extremism?
Antibush5
Active Member
lets go with that :So, to you "proper faith" is extremism?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
You don't develop faith. It is something you need, or it isn't. Faith is simply the word applied to this need after the fact.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
That strikes me very sad.lets go with that :
Antibush5
Active Member
Well I am just wondering how people get like that.
Elder_Bevan
Member
faith is like a seed. we must nourish it, when we stop doing the things that build faith is dies.
Dan4reason
Facts not Faith
Welcome to the forum. I appreciate people like you who will devote years to helping others.
I think that faith should be based on evidence that what we are believing in is really true. I view correct faith as similar to a scientific theory. We propose an idea, evidence comes to support it, we have a little faith in it, more evidence comes, we have more faith, and so on.
Faith is necessary because there is hardly 100% evidence for anything and we constantly have to make choices we do not have all the data for. However, we do need some critical thought and should challenge our ideas in case they are wrong. If they are found to be wrong, we revise them. Those are my ideas.
VenatorAnima
Member
Thanks for asking this... now I don't have to!
TheKnight
Guardian of Life
Why would you want to develop faith if you did not already have it?
Faith is believing without knowing. It is believing when there is a lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary. It is inferior to reason if a reasonable option is available.
To develop it you must have the arrogance to assume that something you believe is true despite observations and evidence to the contrary.
Faith is believing without knowing. It is believing when there is a lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary. It is inferior to reason if a reasonable option is available.
To develop it you must have the arrogance to assume that something you believe is true despite observations and evidence to the contrary.