Di Caprio dating a teenager

[Estro Felino]

I don't understand why this is an issue in the US. By the way,..I would like to explore what manliness is in the US.
Is it considered controversial for a man to date younger women (of course over 18 year old, I mean)?

 

[Stevicus]

I don't understand why this is an issue in the US. By the way,..I would like to explore what manliness is in the US.
Is it considered controversial for a man to date younger women (of course over 18 year old, I mean)?

I don't know how controversial it is, although I think there's always been the trope about the "dirty old man." It was kind of treated as a bit of a joke when I was a kid, though nowadays it's taken more seriously. But since we're talking about legal, consenting adults and there's no actual law against it, then it is what it is. Some people might think it's horrible, others might still joke and make fun of it. But that's America for you.

Personally, I think there are probably more important issues to care about.

As a man, I don't think I would feel comfortable dating a woman who was that much younger than me. But if others want to do it, and there's no coercion, violence, or exploitation going on, then I can't see that there's any crime being committed.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Reverse the genders and it's very weird. For the person involved it just shows immaturity. Of course men want younger woman as toys. That's what makes it kinda gross.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Meh. Those are just his beards, probably. He is likely the toy of some (older than him) executive, as he most likely got the casting couch treatment when he was young, which is common in that industry. They do it the men just as much as the women. I've heard that he's not allowed to marry for some murky reason. Whatever. I think they said him and the 19 year old aren't actually dating, though.

 

[Estro Felino]

I don't know how controversial it is, although I think there's always been the trope about the "dirty old man." It was kind of treated as a bit of a joke when I was a kid, though nowadays it's taken more seriously. But since we're talking about legal, consenting adults and there's no actual law against it, then it is what it is. Some people might think it's horrible, others might still joke and make fun of it. But that's America for you.

Personally, I think there are probably more important issues to care about.

As a man, I don't think I would feel comfortable dating a woman who was that much younger than me. But if others want to do it, and there's no coercion, violence, or exploitation going on, then I can't see that there's any crime being committed.

I see. It's just that I realize there's an obsession with heterosexual men's sentimental life, as if they were scrutinized 24/7 or something.
In the US, I mean.

And it all started with Clinton and Lewinski

I believe women have a free pass for everything in the US.
They can date whomever they want, they can have extra-marital affairs and nobody will ever dare say a word. They are much freer in the eyes of the public.

The exact opposite of my country.
That's anthropologically interesting.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Meh. Those are just his beards, probably. He is likely the toy of some (older than him) executive, as he most likely got the casting couch treatment when he was young, which is common in that industry. They do it the men just as much as the women. I've heard that he's not allowed to marry for some murky reason. Whatever. I think they said him and the 19 year old aren't actually dating, though.

I used to think I wanted to be an actor when I was younger. But it seems like the whole community is sick and perverted now.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I used to think I wanted to be an actor when I was younger. But it seems like the whole community is sick and perverted now.

It really is. It's sad what they've done to the arts. They abuse those people like crazy, and the others look away or are complicit in it. You see it really bad in the music industry, but it's being talked about more and more in the film industry, too.

 

[Stevicus]

I see. It's just that I realize there's an obsession with heterosexual men's sentimental life, as if they were scrutinized 24/7 or something.
In the US, I mean.

And it all started with Clinton and Lewinski

I believe women have a free pass for everything in the US.
They can date whomever they want, they can have extra-marital affairs and nobody will ever dare say a word. They are much freer in the eyes of the public.

The exact opposite of my country.
That's anthropologically interesting.

I see strong opinions from both sides, as there does appear to be noticeable differences of opinion among people on this issue. Like all that public attention on that Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trial. There seemed to be people in different camps, rooting for one or the other, while some scorned them both. Ordinarily, I wouldn't even care about something like that, but I was a bit mystified that it seemed to generate a great deal of public attention.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I don't understand why this is an issue in the US. By the way,..I would like to explore what manliness is in the US.
Is it considered controversial for a man to date younger women (of course over 18 year old, I mean)?

If women did it, there would be an issue. Men can get away with it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Kind of reminds me of Roman Polanski and that minor.

Of course this case involves a young legal age adult.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Kind of reminds me of Roman Polanski and that minor.

Of course this case involves a young legal age adult.

That was something totally different from Leo, as he literally drugged and raped a 13 year old. Then fled the country before he could be sentenced. He's been hiding in France since, and raping more children (there's been a lot more allegations). Hollywood still gives him standing ovations and he's a darling in French society. That is just evil.

 

[Stevicus]

If women did it, there would be an issue. Men can get away with it.

I remember hearing an old traditional rule of thumb where it was "half your age plus 7 years." So, in DiCaprio's case, he's 48, so half his age plus 7 would be 31. So by that rule, anyone younger than 31 would be too young.

 

[Estro Felino]

If women did it, there would be an issue. Men can get away with it.

I was thinking: if a female politician (a very important political figure of the WH or of the Capitol), had an extra-marital affair with another man, would the press behave as they did with Clinton back in 1998?

Quite the opposite. Whoever dared say just a word against her, would be publicly scorned. Deemed as sexist, male chauvinistic, jeopardizing women's sexual freedom.

 

[Estro Felino]

I see strong opinions from both sides, as there does appear to be noticeable differences of opinion among people on this issue. Like all that public attention on that Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trial. There seemed to be people in different camps, rooting for one or the other, while some scorned them both. Ordinarily, I wouldn't even care about something like that, but I was a bit mystified that it seemed to generate a great deal of public attention.

Exactly. Why was the Depp/Heard trial so followed in the US (I didn't, I couldn't care less, honestly...but I was so shocked that it was talked about even in Europe) ?

Because it essentially dealt with this equation:
heterosexual man = bad
heterosexual woman = victim.
What the US audience propagandizes.

 

[Stevicus]

Exactly. Why was the Depp/Heard trial so followed in the US (I didn't, I couldn't care less, honestly...but I was so shocked that it was talked about even in Europe) ?

Because it essentially dealt with this equation:
heterosexual man = bad
heterosexual woman = victim.
What the US audience propagandizes.

As far as why people are interested, I think there's always been a segment of the populace which is somewhat voyeuristic, titillated by tales of celebrity sex lives and what goes on behind closed doors in Washington and Hollywood.

 

[Estro Felino]

As far as why people are interested, I think there's always been a segment of the populace which is somewhat voyeuristic, titillated by tales of celebrity sex lives and what goes on behind closed doors in Washington and Hollywood.

We cannot deny that wokism (we use this word frequently, in Italy, to make fun of the woke culture ) implies the demonization of the heterosexual cisgender man. That falls outside of the LGBT spectrum and feminism.


May I tell an anecdote about my Mediterranean male chauvinistic, anti-woke country?
Di Caprio would be idolized as a Greek god, not because of his talent. But because of the beauty of the women he sleeps with. The notion of manliness here exclusively depends on who you sleep with.
So if you are a very masculine man, muscular and so on, but you are gay, the populace will never consider him "manly" or "male" or "masculine" (these three words have just one equivalent in Italian and that is a very powerful word).
Practically a man is "manly" here only and when he sleeps with women. Better if young and beautiful. He may be even "effeminate", he is still manly because of the women he fancies.

I know...it can seem a pretty weird way of thinking....but that's how it is.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And it all started with Clinton and Lewinski

I believe women have a free pass for everything in the US.
They can date whomever they want, they can have extra-marital affairs and nobody will ever dare say a word. They are much freer in the eyes of the public.

Where o where are you getting your information about America? None of that is reme true.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We cannot deny that wokism (we use this word frequently, in Italy, to make fun of the woke culture ) implies the demonization of the heterosexual cisgender man. That falls outside of the LGBT spectrum and feminism.

If you guzzled the RW "no learning about it allowed" Koolaid.

 

[Estro Felino]

Where o where are you getting your information about America? None of that is reme true.

That's reassuring. But if you read post #13, I presented an hypothetical situation...and I guess that would be the result.
Of course I am speaking of the press, of social media, of the tabloids. Not of political discourse.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's reassuring. But if you read post #13, I presented an hypothetical situation...and I guess that would be the result.
Of course I am speaking of the press, of social media, of the tabloids. Not of political discourse.

And still none of that is true. Men can sleep around with a free pass. A woman in America who says she enjoys sex often times is a ****, especially if she's had sex outside of a formal relationship.