Did God start discrimination?

[stvdv]

Did God start discrimination?
[Assuming God exists of course]

Discrimination = refers to unfair,unequal treatment of an individual (or group) based on certain characteristics
including:

• Age
• Disability
• Ethnicity
• Gender
• Marital status
• National origin
• Race,
• Religion, and
• Sexual orientation.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?
2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?
3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?
4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?
5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?
6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Any ideas or other questions popping up?

 

[CruzNichaphor]

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?

Yes; if the ends (some viable goal) justify the means (some form of acceptable discrimination).

2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?

Yes.

3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?​

Yes.

4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?

No.

5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?

Poorly worded and confusing question but: yes - humans dictated all of the scriptures and not God.

6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Evangelizing and proselytizing is obviously nothing more than a human invention; to suggest otherwise is irrational nonsense. Evangelizing and proselytizing cannot exist outside the realm of human conduct as it is inseparable from it; otherwise it's like saying water isn't necessarily wet.

The god angle on this question - I'm not going to touch.

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[bobhikes]

Did God start discrimination?

Discrimination = refers to unfair,unequal treatment of an individual (or group) based on certain characteristics
including:

• Age
• Disability
• Ethnicity
• Gender
• Marital status
• National origin
• Race,
• Religion, and
• Sexual orientation.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?
2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?
3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?
4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?
5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?
6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

I don't believe so but I don't know all the God's however I would like to point out.

Gender, National origin(Ethnicity), and Religions are beliefs loosely based on short term history.
Race only applies to different species, humans are all one race.
Marriage and Sex are choices, one can always remain nonsexual completely eliminating orientation and marriage.

I'm not sure how god could discriminate the above.

 

[Spiderman]

I get discriminated against for being poor, bad work history, having a criminal history, and being schizoaffective and bipolar.

I have also been discriminated against for Religious reasons and ethnicity.

Discrimination is just a survival instinct in many ways.

People learn to avoid certain areas of the city, avoid hiring certain people, or avoid buying things from certain people online or in real life, because of bad experiences with people from that group.

I'm not saying discrimination is okay by any stretch, but I see cases where it becomes something a person does for their own well-being.

 

[LuisDantas]

No, of course not.

But God is a concept that lends itself easily to support discrimination.

 

[Spiderman]

Regarding the title of this thread,
The God of the Old Testament was racist by modern standards.

He had a group of chosen people who were decendants of Jacob.

He revealed the truth, traditions, covenant, priesthood, and law to this group of people.

There are exceptions to God speaking to and giving grace to non-Jews, but it was very rare to see examples of this in Scripture.

By modern standards, he favored the descendants of Isaac in many ways, with many favors and blessings he did not give to the people who were not descendants of Isaac. He often gave his "chosen people" military victories over uncircumcised gentiles, and gave them land that originally belonged to gentiles.

That would essentially be like taking a group of Germans who descended from a blessed German tribe, and making a nation of them, creating a covenant with them, stating you have to be one of them to have a valid priesthood, creating Scriptures that are primarily focused on that group, raising up many annointed, richly blessed Prophets and monarchs who belong to that group, and giving them many military victories against their enemies, giving them land occupied by others, sometimes commanding them to kill all men, women, and children. And of course, calling Germany the "Holy land, the promised Land".

That behavior is absolutely seen in the Bible, minus the German example.

 

[Spiderman]

Jesus would be considered racist by modern satandards.

He was a Jew who chose twelve Jews as apostles and Paul, who was a Jew.

He also said:

Matthew 15
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs."

That would be like Donald Trump choosing 13 white males as right hand men and saying, "I was only sent to serve and exalt white people, not these minority dogs".

So, by modern standards, there is racism in the New Testament as well.

 

[Spiderman]

To be in the Levitical Priesthood, you had to be a Levite or descendant of Aaron.

That would be similar to RF having a rule that to be a moderater you had to be white or a descendant of George Washington!

 

[Earthling]

Did God start discrimination?

Discrimination = refers to unfair,unequal treatment of an individual (or group) based on certain characteristics
including:

• Age
• Disability
• Ethnicity
• Gender
• Marital status
• National origin
• Race,
• Religion, and
• Sexual orientation.

This is a great topic, stvdv! Good job. I especially like that for clarification you offer a definition of discrimination.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?

IMO, No. But, you have to ask yourself, is it discrimination to not hire a convicted child abuser as a babysitter? Would it be discrimination not to marry someone who was an admitted adulterer? If it isn't an unequal treatment, but a protection or treatment due, not to the individual but rather the offense, then is it discrimination?

For example, God has nothing against anyone due to their age, ethnicity, gender, marital status or race.

Disability. It could be said that in the priesthood of ancient Israel God was somewhat discriminatory against those with disabilities. They couldn't serve as priests. Some mistake this to mean that the disabled couldn't go into the temple and worship. That isn't true, they could, but they couldn't be priests. A priest had to be free from impurities. (Leviticus 21:16-23)

National Origin. It could also be said that there was some discrimination of national origin, inasmuch as the nation of Israel was favored among all of the surrounding nations, or the heathen, the gentile. But there was good reason for that, if it could be called discrimination. God formed the nation of Israel to produce a people of religious and political purity. A nation of laws which prepared the people for the Messiah who would bring about everlasting life. The nations surrounding them behaved in vile and perverse manner which Jehovah God needed to separate Israel from for his purpose. Foreigners were to be accepted, though, if they agreed to the laws of Moses.

Religion. Religion, of course, applied in a similar fashion as the national origin, for the same reasons.

Sexual Orientation. We've had this discussion at length. It isn't the individual that is being discriminated against here, it is the practice. The same as an adulterer, a homosexual can be welcomed into the Christian congregation if they sincerely repent.

2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?

It could be, IMO, The Bible actually doesn't say that we go to heaven or hell, so it's likely a discriminatory practice on the part of the person, but it could be genuine misinformation and indoctrination.

3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?

If the Bible said so then yes, IMO we could say that was discriminatory.

4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?

I guess that would be up to the individual, but IMO, no.

5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?

Well, the teaching that god is Omnipresent is false. That he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent is a matter of theological debate, and can be misleading. But as you phrased the question the answer could be yes, IMO. The answer in the case of the Bible is that God being omni this and that isn't very well supported by scripture in the way it's presented. But that's another thread. The way in which you presented the question the answer would be yes.

6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Yes, God wants us to do this, and it doesn't really matter if it were a human invention or not. In ancient Israel there was no need to evangelize or proselytize, and I'm sure that before Christianity people were proselytizing various concepts. The Christian congregation, unlike Israel, needed to expand and grow. The message needed to be spread to give everyone possible the opportunity to hear the good news.

 

[stvdv]

Jesus would be considered racist by modern satandards.

That is a nice word. Can't be coincidence I think. The Messengers might be quite pure channels, but the people around them not so much. Racism is human not divine IMO.

God is in all scriptures described as pure. So anything "impure" seems to come from humans. I don't see satan as something outside us, but as our monkey mind.

I think verses that don't feel good, can't be from God. They were wrong interpreted, translated or so. Or they were from God to test if we follow blind or use common sense.

 

[Spiderman]

This is a great topic, stvdv! Good job. I especially like that for clarification you offer a definition of discrimination.



IMO, No. But, you have to ask yourself, is it discrimination to not hire a convicted child abuser as a babysitter? Would it be discrimination not to marry someone who was an admitted adulterer? If it isn't an unequal treatment, but a protection or treatment due, not to the individual but rather the offense, then is it discrimination?

For example, God has nothing against anyone due to their age, ethnicity, gender, marital status or race.

Disability. It could be said that in the priesthood of ancient Israel God was somewhat discriminatory against those with disabilities. They couldn't serve as priests. Some mistake this to mean that the disabled couldn't go into the temple and worship. That isn't true, they could, but they couldn't be priests. A priest had to be free from impurities. (Leviticus 21:16-23)

National Origin. It could also be said that there was some discrimination of national origin, inasmuch as the nation of Israel was favored among all of the surrounding nations, or the heathen, the gentile. But there was good reason for that, if it could be called discrimination. God formed the nation of Israel to produce a people of religious and political purity. A nation of laws which prepared the people for the Messiah who would bring about everlasting life. The nations surrounding them behaved in vile and perverse manner which Jehovah God needed to separate Israel from for his purpose. Foreigners were to be accepted, though, if they agreed to the laws of Moses.

Religion. Religion, of course, applied in a similar fashion as the national origin, for the same reasons.

Sexual Orientation. We've had this discussion at length. It isn't the individual that is being discriminated against here, it is the practice. The same as an adulterer, a homosexual can be welcomed into the Christian congregation if they sincerely repent.



It could be, IMO, The Bible actually doesn't say that we go to heaven or hell, so it's likely a discriminatory practice on the part of the person, but it could be genuine misinformation and indoctrination.



If the Bible said so then yes, IMO we could say that was discriminatory.



I guess that would be up to the individual, but IMO, no.



Well, the teaching that god is Omnipresent is false. That he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent is a matter of theological debate, and can be misleading. But as you phrased the question the answer could be yes, IMO. The answer in the case of the Bible is that God being omni this and that isn't very well supported by scripture in the way it's presented. But that's another thread. The way in which you presented the question the answer would be yes.



Yes, God wants us to do this, and it doesn't really matter if it were a human invention or not. In ancient Israel there was no need to evangelize or proselytize, and I'm sure that before Christianity people were proselytizing various concepts. The Christian congregation, unlike Israel, needed to expand and grow. The message needed to be spread to give everyone possible the opportunity to hear the good news.

The reasons you listed for discrimination in the Bible are many reasons people discriminate in our modern culture.

Certain behaviors or offensive religious views or offensive practices can be more prevalent among one group (of Samolian immigrants for example), so a person avoids or discriminates against that group in the ways you mentioned.

It happens all the time!

 

[Spiderman]

That is a nice word. Can't be coincidence I think. The Messengers might be quite pure channels, but the people around them not so much. Racism is human not divine IMO.

God is in all scriptures described as pure. So anything "impure" seems to come from humans. I don't see satan as something outside us, but as our monkey mind.

I think verses that don't feel good, can't be from God. They were wrong interpreted, translated or so. Or they were from God to test if we follow blind or use common sense.

Yes,
We should never follow an ancient text when it promotes what our conscience tells us to be unjust, harsh judgements, cruelty, or harsh treatment of other human beings!

 

[Milton Platt]

Did God start discrimination?
[Assuming God exists of course]

Discrimination = refers to unfair,unequal treatment of an individual (or group) based on certain characteristics
including:

• Age
• Disability
• Ethnicity
• Gender
• Marital status
• National origin
• Race,
• Religion, and
• Sexual orientation.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?
2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?
3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?
4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?
5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?
6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Any ideas or other questions popping up?

The god problem aside, not all discrimination is bad.

 

[Nakosis]

Did God start discrimination?
[Assuming God exists of course]

Discrimination = refers to unfair,unequal treatment of an individual (or group) based on certain characteristics
including:

• Age
• Disability
• Ethnicity
• Gender
• Marital status
• National origin
• Race,
• Religion, and
• Sexual orientation.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?
2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?
3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?
4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?
5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?
6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Any ideas or other questions popping up?

We shouldn't discriminate based on assumptions about other people. Most of the ides you've listed create assumptions in the minds of most folks.

It is ok to discriminate based on actual knowledge. If you know a person from intimate experience that they are bad/evil etc... Then it'd be foolhardy, IMO, to not discriminate.

 

[stvdv]

Thank you for giving all these good examples. They clarify the points quite well. Thanks to your examples I got some nice insights. So thanks a lot, good to see others' views
Glad I asked these, because nowadays I get the feeling that "we should not discriminate" sometimes goes "too far". People sue each other on everything at least what I read about America. Holland was never like this, but I see the "American way" starts coming here also now. Maybe there is more hidden tension/anger in people than we see, and finally it comes all out.

Freedom of Speech/Religion is good, but hurting others' feeling creates anger/rage/hate, coming out some day. Personally but also as a country. We see last few years in Holland lots of anger towards Islam. First we were very tolerant, but the 2 cultures are so different that lots of hate slowly was building up on both sides and now it all comes out.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?

IMO, No. But, you have to ask yourself, is it discrimination to not hire a convicted child abuser as a babysitter?

Perfect example. We better use our discrimination and sometimes discriminate people based on their actions, as to stay out of trouble

Would it be discrimination not to marry someone who was an admitted adulterer?

Another good example. Seems discriminating people or better there actions [as you said below] is not so bad after all.

If it isn't an unequal treatment, but a protection or treatment due, not to the individual but rather the offense, then is it discrimination?

That is the solution I think. Use our discrimination power to discriminate "not to the individual but rather the offense" I call it common sense
Once, when 5 y old, I crawled under a car. My father beat me explained "car could have driven away". That beating did not hurt, but I never became car mechanic

A priest had to be free from impurities.

Yes, getting a job involves lots of discrimination, but it's on your qualities

it could be called discrimination. God formed the nation of Israel to produce a people of religious and political purity

Nice example about God. God discriminates on your qualities and intentions not our being here. His Actions might be understood if we knew how He sees us

Sexual Orientation. We've had this discussion at length. It isn't the individual that is being discriminated against here, it is the practice

Yes, correct, that one we got covered already. Important point that we should not discriminate the person.

2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?

Bible actually doesn't say that we go to heaven or hell, so it's likely a discriminatory practice on the part of the person, but it could be genuine misinformation and indoctrination.

Are you sure the Bible doesn't say we go to heaven or hell? See below. I agree with "it could be genuine misinformation and indoctrination"
Matthew 10:28 = 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
2 Peter 2:4 = 4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
Mark 9:43 = 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?

If the Bible said so then yes, IMO we could say that was discriminatory.

Agreed. And it is good to be able to say that about our favorite scripture. And it is nice to know that discrimination is not always a bad thing

4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?

I guess that would be up to the individual, but IMO, no.

You say "no", but I expected a "yes" after all your explanations given?

5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?

Well, the teaching that god is Omnipresent is false. That he is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent is a matter of theological debate, and can be misleading. But as you phrased the question the answer could be yes, IMO. The answer in the case of the Bible is that God being omni this and that isn't very well supported by scripture in the way it's presented. But that's another thread. The way in which you presented the question the answer would be yes.

Thanks I did not know that according to the Bible "the teaching that god is Omnipresent is false"

6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Yes, God wants us to do this, and it doesn't really matter if it were a human invention or not. In ancient Israel there was no need to evangelize or proselytize, and I'm sure that before Christianity people were proselytizing various concepts. The Christian congregation, unlike Israel, needed to expand and grow. The message needed to be spread to give everyone possible the opportunity to hear the good news.

Thanks. Spreading good news is a good thing IMO.

 

[Earthling]

2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?

Are you sure the Bible doesn't say we go to heaven or hell? See below. I agree with "it could be genuine misinformation and indoctrination"
Matthew 10:28 = 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
2 Peter 2:4 = 4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;
Mark 9:43 = 43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

These verses you give have two different words that are being translated as hell. The one in the middle, 2 Peter 2:4 is the Greek word Tartarus. It is often mistranslated as hell. Tartarus in the Christian Greek scriptures refers to a condition of debasement, unlike the pre-Christian pagan Tartarus (as in Homer's Iliad) which is a mythological prison. The word basically means the lowest place. Peter refers to the angels who in the time of Noah forsook their original positions and became men in order to have relations with the women of earth. The result was their offspring being giants, the Nephilim, who caused so much destruction God had to bring forth the flood. (Genesis 6:1-4 / Ephesians 6:10-12 / Jude 1:6).

The other word in both Matthew 10:28 and Mark 9:43 is Gehenna. The Greek Geenna (Hebrew Geh Hinnom - English Transliteration Gehenna) is a literal place - a valley that lies South and South-West of ancient Jerusalem. It is the modern day Wadi er-Rababi (Ge Ben Hinnom), a deep, narrow valley. Today it is a peaceful and pleasant valley, unlike the surrounding dry and rocky terrain, and most certainly unlike the pagan / apostate Christian hell. Here's a picture of the place as it looks today.

In the days of unfaithful Kings Manasseh and Ahaz idolatrous worship of the pagan god Baal was conducted in the place which was then known as Geh Hinnom, (the valley of Hinnom) including human sacrifices to fire. It is ironic that the pagan custom of burning in fire, as in hell, would have so clearly infiltrated the Christian teachings, considering that this practice was a detestable thing to Jehovah God, and his prophets spoke of a time when this place would be turned into a defiled and desolate place. (2 Chronicles 28:1-3; 33:1-6 / Jeremiah 7:31-32; 32:35).

The prophecy was fulfilled in the days of faithful King Josiah, who had the place, especially the area known as Topeth polluted into a refuse heap. (2 Kings 23:10) So it was that in the days of Jesus and the early Christian congregations, that the valley was known as a literal place where the carcasses of criminals and animals were thrown, having no hope for resurrection. The refuse there was kept burning with sulfur, which is abundant in the area. When Jesus used Gehenna as a figurative or symbolic reference to the spiritually dead the people in the area knew what he was talking about. (Matthew 5:22; 18:9; Mark 9:47,48)

4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?

You say "no", but I expected a "yes" after all your explanations given?

The three examples I gave from the Bible weren't actually discrimination, they were examples that people may mistake as discrimination. In the case of national origin and religion, God formed a nation to separate his people from the vile religious practices of the nations surrounding them. Like young boy temple prostitutes, orgies and sacrificing children to fire. These vile practices were common in religious practices of the nations around Israel. God would allow people from the surrounding nations live in Israel if they abandoned those practices.

In the case of sexual orientation God wouldn't allow homosexuality and adultery because of the damage they did to the family unit and therefore society. Later the same applied to the Christian congregation, but it wasn't the homosexual individual God forbade it was the practice.

In this response I was referring to religions that actually do discriminate, IMO, like the Hindu caste system.

 

[stvdv]

Thanks for the additional information. Nice to read something about the history. Gehenna seems a nice place looking at the picture. Going Gehenna may be paradise

These verses you give have two different words that are being translated as hell.

Thank you. It crossed my mind, it might be translation error. Good to know hell is not part of the Bible. I now know how to reply Christians who claim different.

In the case of sexual orientation God wouldn't allow homosexuality and adultery because of the damage they did to the family unit and therefore society. Later the same applied to the Christian congregation, but it wasn't the homosexual individual God forbade it was the practice.

1: Homosexuality: I don't see as damage to family/society. Family/society do the damage by belittling/demeaning homosexuals IMO. Finger pointing does more damage than people realize
2: Adultery: The definition of the word implies already doing pain and damage [you promise the other and you break your promise]. So agreed. Don't lie is best.

In this response I was referring to religions that actually do discriminate, IMO, like the Hindu caste system.

Aha, now I understand. FYI, Hindu caste system used to be good, but like all religions also Hinduism declined. Sex abuse you see in Islam/Hinduism/Christianity. Starts good, but over time it gets worse. That's why Saints are helpful, to point us in the right direction again

The problem with religions is that they are dogmatic and rigid. So even if a new prophet or Saint comes people refuse to listen. So it takes long time to improve.

 

[Quintessence]

I have to ask why the word "unfair" was left out of the blue text, when the key of what makes something discrimination is unequal and unfair treatment.

With that under consideration, who decides what is fair? In this case, the Abrahamic god does. It doesn't make much sense to me to suppose human ideas of fairness necessarily correlate to those of a unequivocally non-human omnimax entity.

 

[stvdv]

I have to ask why the word "unfair" was left out of the blue text, when the key of what makes something discrimination is unequal and unfair treatment.

With that under consideration, who decides what is fair? In this case, the Abrahamic god does. It doesn't make much sense to me to suppose human ideas of fairness necessarily correlate to those of a unequivocally non-human omnimax entity.

Why I left "unfair" out.
Just looked nicer with 2 words gap in between "discrimination" ..... and ..... "the line thereafter"
That was all.

 

[Milton Platt]

Did God start discrimination?
[Assuming God exists of course]

Discrimination = refers to unfair,unequal treatment of an individual (or group) based on certain characteristics
including:

• Age
• Disability
• Ethnicity
• Gender
• Marital status
• National origin
• Race,
• Religion, and
• Sexual orientation.

1) Is it good to discriminate? Should it be allowed to discriminate?
2) To tell someone he goes to hell or heaven based on above characteristics is that discrimination?
3) To tell that God said so in Bible, can we say "God and Bible are discriminating [asuming both are true]"?
4) Is it good to follow a God/Religion/Scripture who discriminates? Should it be encouraged to follow this?
5) If God is said to be Omni benevolent etc.could it be that human dictated part of scriptures and not God?
6) Evangelizing and proselytizing: Human invention? If yes, why? Or you still think God wants us do this?

Any ideas or other questions popping up?

Assuming:
1. god exists
2. god made everything
3. god knows the future from the beginning

Then god is responsible for all future things. Sorry, god......