not nom
Well-Known Member
in other words yes, because you can't refute it.
"not smart" is not refuting it. first you refute it, then you have something to claim it's not smart. because you just refuted it! see how that works?
you got nothing.
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Did Jesus say he was God???
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in other words yes, because you can't refute it.
"not smart" is not refuting it. first you refute it, then you have something to claim it's not smart. because you just refuted it! see how that works?
you got nothing.
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
Rev 1:8 NIV
Rev 21:6 NIV
Rev 22:13 NIV
I believe Jesus is talking to John.
I don't have to explain my replies to you.
Too bad if you don't like them.
Go back, read the context. It was about another verse.
So I think you'll get the same words:
When you give something smart and ontopic, you'll deserve a reply.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
No it doesn't. Remember, the context starts well before chapter 8. Nothing in the prior chapters, assuming you know where the context begins, has anything to so with why they wanted to kill him and nowhere in the previous chapters did he claim to be "God"...
There is no contradiction. The context perfectly suits my explanation.
But do I get that you abandoned your "I was" argument?
You're even trying to ignore the whole verse and jump to previous chapters!
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outhouse
Atheistically
failure to refute is still failure
Jesus never said he was god ever.
No matter how you slice the trintarian view created by man will never be resolved.
... funny coming from someone who can't even give an argument.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Because you don't seem to know where the context begins. Here's a hint.. its not in chapter 8.
I've given multiple evidences from various scholars...at least one of them I'm aware of actually taught Greek.
"useless"........the context of chapter 8 even why they sought to kill him depends on previous chapters but it appears you're not aware of that.....
Shermana
Heretic
Once again, Rev 1:8 is clearly the Father speaking, so is in 21:16, but in 22:13 it's Jesus' Angel speaking a message about the Father. I can refer to the several posts on this, and the blog article on the Speaker Confusion issue.
outhouse
Atheistically
you seem to run and hide from questions you cannot begin to answer
im not alone, heres another person you pull this method with
your no one to judge who is, or is not smart.
hiding due to lack of knowledge again.
useless
It's obvious that when Jesus said "I am" (I AM God), they sought to stone Him.
Again, ignoring all what I said about the verse and the similarity with Ps 90:2 and trying to change the subject.
And I replied and explained why this isn't correct.
Again Ps 90:2 proves them wrong.
Once again, that's Jesus ("who is to come").
I've explained it before in Greek, and all what you did was throwing this useless blog that doesn't even address the matter.
As you see, we are discussing the bible here.
I've proved my words from the bible.
Now are you going to give something smart about my argument or you'll keep posting such useless posts?
not nom
Well-Known Member
you seem to run and hide from questions you cannot begin to answer
verily.
Muffled
Jesus in me
That depends on whether you have invited Jesus to live in you while you stand aside and observe. God is one no matter in whom He is living.
This is a prayer because most people prefer to run their own lives.
Muffled
Jesus in me
Yes Jesus did pray to the Father on the cross. Lu 23:34 And Jesus said, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And parting his garments among them, they cast lots.
This is not deductive reasoning and inductively it doesn't work either.
This is my reasoning.
God is intelligent.
God can speak words.
God can listen to words.
Therefore God can listen to Himself speak words.
(Intelligent humans can do that also, it is a sign of intelligence)
Mr 2:8 And straightway Jesus, perceiving in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, saith unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
Muffled
Jesus in me
This isn't proof it is an unsupported claim.
Also in that post you make an unsupported claim that the passage is not about Jesus saying He is God simply because Abraham is mentioned several times. That is ingenuous because the passage is not about Abraham even though he is mentioned several times. The passage is about the authority of Jesus being greater than the authority of Abraham.
John 8:12 ¶ Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.
13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest witness of thyself; thy witness is not true.
This is the beginning of the discourse. In verse 12 Jesus makes a claim that he has complete knowledge which ais an attribute of God, omniscience. The Pharisees make a counter claim that the testimony of Jesus is not proof. Jesus goes on to say why His claim is authoritative.
Now here is where you duck the issue because the evidence does not support your unsupported claims.
PS: It appears that I did not answer the original post. That can happen because I limit myself to three responses so that I don't incur a warning for overposting. Please excuse my omission; it wasn't intentional. I only intentionally ignore you when you repeat things instead of argue the issues.
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