Did Sanders Help Trump Win the Presidency?

[Nous]

Jon Svitavsky, a “Vermont social worker and liberal Democrat” who plans to challenge Sanders for his Senate seat in 2018, told Vermont Public Radio that Sanders "'divisive' politics have hurt the Democratic Party on the national scene and made the rise of Trump possible.” Svitavsky went on to allege that Sanders failed to then try to unify Democrats, even as an ongoing failure. Trump Won Because of Bernie Sanders, Now the Vermont Senator Should Be Punished, Rival Candidate Says

Interestingly, as far back as June 2016, a Vanity Fair article made similar comments on the effect of Sanders' campaign or message on the election:

By relentlessly attacking Clinton for being beholden to Wall Street and other moneyed interests, Sanders, as Gerald F. Seib put it in The Wall Street Journal, “threatens to exacerbate Mrs. Clinton’s biggest problem, which is that many voters suspect she isn’t to be trusted.”

So what has Bernie wrought? Some of Clinton’s supporters fear that she’s been so weakened by Sanders that we’re on the path to President Trump. They’re angry. Some of Bernie’s supporters agree. But they don’t really care, because they’re angry, too. “I believe in a way [Clinton] is more dangerous [than Trump],” said Bernie supporter Susan Sarandon over the weekend.​

Did Bernie Sanders Hand Trump the Election?

So, apparently the criticism is that Sanders' campaign kind of split the Democratic party ideologically, highlighted Clinton as “the status quo,” fired up a base of “anti-status quo” people, then didn't do enough to bring those supporters in to vote for Clinton (in critical Rust Belt states, at least). Did Sanders' campaign or message have such an effect on the election?

 

[Quetzal]

Jon Svitavsky, a “Vermont social worker and liberal Democrat” who plans to challenge Sanders for his Senate seat in 2018, told Vermont Public Radio that Sanders "'divisive' politics have hurt the Democratic Party on the national scene and made the rise of Trump possible.”

Nonsense. The DNC took matters into their own hands and it back fired.

 

[suncowiam]

Jon Svitavsky, a “Vermont social worker and liberal Democrat” who plans to challenge Sanders for his Senate seat in 2018, told Vermont Public Radio that Sanders "'divisive' politics have hurt the Democratic Party on the national scene and made the rise of Trump possible.” Svitavsky went on to allege that Sanders failed to then try to unify Democrats, even as an ongoing failure. Trump Won Because of Bernie Sanders, Now the Vermont Senator Should Be Punished, Rival Candidate Says

Interestingly, as far back as June 2016, a Vanity Fair article made similar comments on the effect of Sanders' campaign or message on the election:

By relentlessly attacking Clinton for being beholden to Wall Street and other moneyed interests, Sanders, as Gerald F. Seib put it in The Wall Street Journal, “threatens to exacerbate Mrs. Clinton’s biggest problem, which is that many voters suspect she isn’t to be trusted.”

So what has Bernie wrought? Some of Clinton’s supporters fear that she’s been so weakened by Sanders that we’re on the path to President Trump. They’re angry. Some of Bernie’s supporters agree. But they don’t really care, because they’re angry, too. “I believe in a way [Clinton] is more dangerous [than Trump],” said Bernie supporter Susan Sarandon over the weekend.​

Did Bernie Sanders Hand Trump the Election?

So, apparently the criticism is that Sanders' campaign kind of split the Democratic party ideologically, highlighted Clinton as “the status quo,” fired up a base of “anti-status quo” people, then didn't do enough to bring those supporters in to vote for Clinton (in critical Rust Belt states, at least). Did Sanders' campaign or message have such an effect on the election?

Quite the opposite. The DNC shot themselves in the foot by getting caught for undermining Sanders.

Trump did the exact same thing that Sanders did to their respective parties but with more aggression and yet, he's the president.

This is just typical political slander for political power.

 

[suncowiam]

Nonsense. The DNC took matters into their own hands and it back fired.

Gotta pat you on the back for that. Or maybe I can rub that nice bald head there...

 

[Nous]

Nonsense. The DNC took matters into their own hands and it back fired.

So what is it that "back fired"?

 

[Nous]

Quite the opposite. The DNC shot themselves in the foot by getting caught for undermining Sanders.

So are you referring to the Nevada thing? Or Something else?

In your opinion, how did the DNC undermine Sanders?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Hillary helped Trump win the presidency by not being a viable presidential candidate. The whole DNC apparatus helped by being in denial over this fact.

 

[Quetzal]

So what is it that "back fired"?

They undermined the popular candidate by nominating another, who then went on to lose the election.

 

[suncowiam]

So are you referring to the Nevada thing? Or Something else?

In your opinion, how did the DNC undermine Sanders?

Simply, they didn't give him a fair chance than they did with Hillary.

Here's an opinion piece:
DNC betrayed Bernie Sanders and the rest of America

Here's another concerning the leaked emails:
Leaked DNC emails reveal details of anti-Sanders sentiment

 

[Akivah]

There is nothing unique going on here. The last several presidential elections were so close, that third party candidates have affected every election. I know Sanders wasn't third party, but his followers continued to give him a following and refused Clinton.

 

[Nous]

Hillary helped Trump win the presidency by not being a viable presidential candidate. The whole DNC apparatus helped by being in denial over this fact.

Somehow the polls were fairly consistent in showing Clinton beating Trump. Of, the gap tightened after Comey's letter to Congress about reopening the investigation.

In any case, Clinton did win the primaries, did she not?

 

[tytlyf]

The rise of Trump had nothing to do with democrats. It's all about conservative media. The media created the Trump supporter. Usually tea party supporters.
Now, what happened this past election has backfired on GOP media. The media used to fool people into supporting corporate policies actually hurt the republicans this year. They didn't want Trump and their media created the Trump supporter.
I predicted long before the election that if Trump wins, GOP media will have troubles. They're taking an 'inside' look at what has happened.

 

[Nous]

They undermined the popular candidate by nominating another, who then went on to lose the election.

But, again, didn't Clinton win in the race between her and Sanders?

 

[tytlyf]

Quite the opposite. The DNC shot themselves in the foot by getting caught for undermining Sanders.

They didn't undermine Sanders. The RNC did undermine Trump though. Even not allowing whole states to vote in the primaries.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Somehow the polls were fairly consistent in showing Clinton beating Trump. Of, the gap tightened after Comey's letter to Congress about reopening the investigation.

In any case, Clinton did win the primaries, did she not?

This was a gimme election for the Democrats. That Clinton couldn't generate enough action/motivation to get elected, handily, seems to be a pretty clear sign that she wasn't a viable candidate. It was already apparent after 2008, but the denial was, and still is, deeply ingrained.

 

[suncowiam]

They didn't undermine Sanders. The RNC did undermine Trump though. Even not allowing whole states to vote in the primaries.

Common...

Donna Brazile finally admits she shared debate questions with Clinton campaign

Hillary was given debate questions prior to a debate.

I'm on the left, too. But this was the DNC's fault. Let's learn from it, don't do it again and move on. Dodging this is not going to do us any good.

 

[Nous]

Simply, they didn't give him a fair chance than they did with Hillary.

Here's an opinion piece:
DNC betrayed Bernie Sanders and the rest of America

So do you agree with this from the editorial:

The leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee apparently confirmed what they have said all along — that the political system was rigged against their candidate in favor of Hillary Clinton.

Top Democrats essentially dismissed Sanders as a viable candidate during the primaries, attempted to undermine him with voters and even took steps to derail his campaign, according to hacked emails that were recently made public by WikiLeaks.​

?

If so, exactly what did the DNC do to "derail" Sanders' campaign.

The interesting thing is that this writer makes a similar claim as Svitavsky and the Vanity Fair article:

But there's nothing ordinary about this year's race. Voters are splintered over ideology and they have made steadfast decisions about whether to fall in line behind establishment candidates or take a chance with someone who refused to toe the party line.​

Those loyal to Sanders remained loyal to Sanders, didn't go over to Clinton, and now we've got Trump.

 

[Nous]

There is nothing unique going on here. The last several presidential elections were so close, that third party candidates have affected every election. I know Sanders wasn't third party, but his followers continued to give him a following and refused Clinton.

Yeah, that's basically Svitavsky's argument--that Sanders (or Sanders' message) led a group of his followers away from voting for Clinton in the general election.

 

[Revoltingest]

Nonsense. The DNC took matters into their own hands and it back fired.

It's possible that Sanders even helped Hillary by lending some flavor of democracy
to the primaries. Without him, she'd have appeared even more of an anointed insider.
But is there ever a single reason a candidate wins or loses? I say it's an illusion cuz
a change in other major influences could also sway an election, but those things are
often taken for granted.

 

[Nous]

The media used to fool people into supporting corporate policies actually hurt the republicans this year.

Come again? In what way have Republicans been hurt by the "conservative media"?