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Did snopes debunk itself?

buddhist

Well-Known Member
"Facebook 'fact checker' who will arbitrate on 'fake news' is accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes - and its staff includes an escort-porn star and 'Vice Vixen domme'"
  • Facebook has announced plans to check for 'fake news' using a series of organizations to assess whether stories are true
  • One of them is a website called Snopes.com which claims to be one of the web's 'essential resources' and 'painstaking, scholarly and reliable'
  • It was founded by husband-and-wife Barbara and David Mikkelson, who used a letterhead claiming they were a non-existent society to start their research
  • Now they are divorced - with Barbara claiming in legal documents he embezzled $98,000 of company money and spent it on 'himself and prostitutes'
  • In a lengthy and bitter legal dispute he is claiming to be underpaid and demanding 'industry standard' or at least $360,000 a year
  • The two also dispute what are basic facts of their case - despite Snopes.com saying its 'ownership' is committed to 'accuracy and impartiality'
  • Snopes.com founder David Mikkelson's new wife Elyssa Young is employed by the website as an administrator
  • She has worked as an escort and porn actress and despite claims website is non-political ran as a Libertarian for Congress on a 'Dump Bush' platform
  • Its main 'fact checker' is Kimberly LaCapria, whose blog 'ViceVixen' says she is in touch with her 'domme side' and has posted on Snopes.com while smoking pot
Facebook 'fact checker' Snopes.com accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes | Daily Mail Online
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
"Facebook 'fact checker' who will arbitrate on 'fake news' is accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes - and its staff includes an escort-porn star and 'Vice Vixen domme'"
  • Facebook has announced plans to check for 'fake news' using a series of organizations to assess whether stories are true
  • One of them is a website called Snopes.com which claims to be one of the web's 'essential resources' and 'painstaking, scholarly and reliable'
  • It was founded by husband-and-wife Barbara and David Mikkelson, who used a letterhead claiming they were a non-existent society to start their research
  • Now they are divorced - with Barbara claiming in legal documents he embezzled $98,000 of company money and spent it on 'himself and prostitutes'
  • In a lengthy and bitter legal dispute he is claiming to be underpaid and demanding 'industry standard' or at least $360,000 a year
  • The two also dispute what are basic facts of their case - despite Snopes.com saying its 'ownership' is committed to 'accuracy and impartiality'
  • Snopes.com founder David Mikkelson's new wife Elyssa Young is employed by the website as an administrator
  • She has worked as an escort and porn actress and despite claims website is non-political ran as a Libertarian for Congress on a 'Dump Bush' platform
  • Its main 'fact checker' is Kimberly LaCapria, whose blog 'ViceVixen' says she is in touch with her 'domme side' and has posted on Snopes.com while smoking pot
Facebook 'fact checker' Snopes.com accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes | Daily Mail Online
Do you think any of this will have an impact on their ability to detect fake news?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I cannot personally verify everything snopes claims to verify or debunk.

I guess I was just confused. The thread title suggests that Snopes debunked itself. I took that as meaning they had been caught incorrectly assessing facts.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
"Facebook 'fact checker' who will arbitrate on 'fake news' is accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes - and its staff includes an escort-porn star and 'Vice Vixen domme'"
  • Facebook has announced plans to check for 'fake news' using a series of organizations to assess whether stories are true
  • One of them is a website called Snopes.com which claims to be one of the web's 'essential resources' and 'painstaking, scholarly and reliable'
  • It was founded by husband-and-wife Barbara and David Mikkelson, who used a letterhead claiming they were a non-existent society to start their research
  • Now they are divorced - with Barbara claiming in legal documents he embezzled $98,000 of company money and spent it on 'himself and prostitutes'
  • In a lengthy and bitter legal dispute he is claiming to be underpaid and demanding 'industry standard' or at least $360,000 a year
  • The two also dispute what are basic facts of their case - despite Snopes.com saying its 'ownership' is committed to 'accuracy and impartiality'
  • Snopes.com founder David Mikkelson's new wife Elyssa Young is employed by the website as an administrator
  • She has worked as an escort and porn actress and despite claims website is non-political ran as a Libertarian for Congress on a 'Dump Bush' platform
  • Its main 'fact checker' is Kimberly LaCapria, whose blog 'ViceVixen' says she is in touch with her 'domme side' and has posted on Snopes.com while smoking pot
Facebook 'fact checker' Snopes.com accused of defrauding website to pay for prostitutes | Daily Mail Online
That doesn't have any bearing on if their findings are accurate or not.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I think people would be better served by think about news as "useful" or "relevant," in addition to being able to contextualize it as such, than whether it is"fake" or not. I will take societal views on "fake" news much more seriously once Onion articles stop being referenced as fact.

I'm not holding my breath in either case.
 

IndigoStorm

Member
Never mind Snopes ...I prefer the old adages ... "If it sounds too good to be true, then it is." and: "If it walks like a duck and quacks then it is a duck."
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
There are both liberal and conservative hedonists. Snopes is neither liberal nor conservative. I remember when Snopes said Obama wasn't born in Africa. All of a sudden that meant it had a liberal bias, as if it were concerned with liberality and only conservative facts could be real.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
There are both liberal and conservative hedonists. Snopes is neither liberal nor conservative. I remember when Snopes said Obama wasn't born in Africa. All of a sudden that meant it had a liberal bias, as if it were concerned with liberality and only conservative facts could be real.
And it's silly to pretend it's either, as their goals aren't even primarily directed at politics, but urban legends, the "latest unusual news" going around, and whatever else people ask them about. Politics is more-or-less a "side effect" of having a user-generated base of questions to answer, so it really shouldn't even be thought of as a political source. As for bias, they are always good about citing their references, which do come from official agencies, local news outlets, and other relative and credible sources. If they end up having an apparent slant in stories that aren't denouncing Obama and tarnishing Republicans (which is very generalized and often not the case), the reasonable conclusion is that people are asking them questions based on what they are hearing in the media and debates with others, and it reflects more on the audience than it does those doing the research.
Really, I hope it doesn't end because I don't know where else I'll turn to when I hear someone mention a strange news story (like a real dead body in a haunted house of someone who died while visiting it) that will have me going "What?? No way!" Almost always it turns out it's not true, but sometimes...:eek:
 

james bond

Well-Known Member
An example of liberal bias is happening now in real news. We are bombarded by whites being racist to minorities and it will go viral or top billing if the racist just happens to mention Trump. We know there are racists who come in all colors. And the whites could be part of the liberals, too. However, the former is what makes headlines.

Tell them to go back where they belong
‘Tell them to go back where they belong’: J.C. Penney customer’s racist tirade caught on video

How about when this happened in liberal San Francisco?
San Francisco tour guide launches racist tirade in Chinatown | Daily Mail Online
 
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