Disaster! Obama will declare martial law over Republican caucus says cabinet secretary

[Ouroboros]

In other words it really is invisible?

And the interpretation has been upheld by supreme court. In US, the term "martial law" doesn't really exist for the president, but effectively the suspension of habeas corpus is the same thing, just another phrase that has the same effect. Just because it doesn't say the term, doesn't mean that the actual acts work the same way.

 

[Ouroboros]

Yeah, it's a power of Congress, not the President.

My understanding is that the president has that power too. He shouldn't have, but it seems like that's how it's been interpreted (especially by Bush).

 

[Brickjectivity]

You mean they left the leftover paper in the latrine? I've always wondered where the term "constitutional" came from!

Suspending habeus corpus keeps a country regular.

 

[Ouroboros]

Interesting article from About.com about Lincoln's and Bush's suspension of Habeas Corpus: http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/rightsandfreedoms/a/habeuscorpus.htm

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

My understanding is that the president has that power too. He shouldn't have, but it seems like that's how it's been interpreted (especially by Bush).

I haven't seen that anywhere. Has been used by a President?

Never mind, just saw your most recent post--had forgotten about Lincoln.

 

[Ouroboros]

I haven't seen that anywhere. Has been used by a President?

Yes. Lincoln.

Just Google "Lincoln Suspended Habeas Corpus"

Abraham Lincoln signed the bill into law on March 3, 1863, and suspended habeas corpus under the authority it granted him six months later. The suspension was lifted with the issuance of Proclamation 148 by Andrew Johnson, and the Act became inoperative with the end of the Civil War.

Bush tried to do the same thing, but was struck down because he went really far with it.

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

You guys just mucking round here right , those FEMA camps might just one day save your lives directly or indirectly . For a little while anyway .
Is only two viable just reason for FEMA
1 To provide emergency accommodation during time of national emergency.
2 To hold possible threats to national security within US during or before breakout of significant war .

What I see is whenever national emergency happen is US first thing one does is go looting ...

 

[Sunstone]

And what provision of the Constitution says that? Exactly which clause?????

I dunno. I've only studied the comic book version of the Constitution.

 

[Kori]

FEMA concentration camps, because everybody knows the high-rise towers with barbed wires, observation towers, and bright lights of a prison are actually death camps we'll all be rounded up into.

Doubleplusungood.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Doubleplusungood.

How ya gonna go replacing Pink with Obama?

 

[Ouroboros]

I dunno. I've only studied the comic book version of the Constitution.

I only saw the movie with DiCaprio.

 

[Kori]

How ya gonna go replacing Pink with Obama?

Simple. Take one USASOC+One Obama+2 spoonfuls of "Transparency" -Patriotism bake on 420 for 10 mins. and you get a nice baked United States of Oceania/Pink.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Simple. Take one USASOC+One Obama+2 spoonfuls of "Transparency" -Patriotism bake on 420 for 10 mins. and you get a nice baked United States of Oceania/Pink.

BBBAAAAAHHHH!!! TOOO MUUCH!!! Just give me my 420 and mushrooms and chemicals and PINK!! Go onto that meat grinder because I can't have my meat without my pudding, and I can't have my pudding without my meat!

 

[Kori]

BBBAAAAAHHHH!!! TOOO MUUCH!!! Just give me my 420 and mushrooms and chemicals and PINK!! Go onto that meat grinder because I can't have my meat without my pudding, and I can't have my pudding without my meat!

That better be chocolate pudding or you are going to the Gulags.

 

[Osal]

Irony....
The only 2 people I personally know who lived in an internment camp were sent
there by a Democrat (President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066).

And the Republicans freed the slaves.

Obama is as likely to start interning Conservatives as my Corgi is to start reciting Kibran.

Trump, on thr other hand .....

 

[Revoltingest]

And the Republicans freed the slaves.

Obama is as likely to start interning Conservatives as my Corgi is to start reciting Kibran.

Trump, on thr other hand .....

People letting their imaginations run wild regarding Trump.
But the problem is that they don't look critically at Hillary.
It even seems that they don't want to look at her at all,
lest they admit she's a hawk...you know...invading Iraq.

 

[Underhill]

Any publication with Palin on the masthead cannot be taken seriosly.

Clown shoes.

If anyone uses concentration camps it'll be that fascist pr1ck Trump.

The best quote I've ever heard about Trump was from Cornell West.

“The problem with Trump is is that he’s a multi-billionaire pseudo-populist with autocratic sensibilities, and some fascist proclivities. That’s what’s dangerous about him.”

It's best if you hear it from the man himself....

 

[Underhill]

People letting their imaginations run wild regarding Trump.
But the problem is that they don't look critically at Hillary.
It even seems that they don't want to look at her at all,
lest they admit she's a hawk...you know...invading Iraq.

The problem with your perspective is that Hillary is one of the only ones on the board with any actual experience. It's like when administrations are shopping for supreme court justices. The less history they have the better chance they have of being confirmed.

For example, as Secretary of State Hillary was forced to do things that probably any SOS would have had to do in her shoes and most of those were not even her decision.

 

[Revoltingest]

The problem with your perspective is that Hillary is one of the only ones on the board with any actual experience.

I recall how in 2008, Dems dismissed experience as useless.
Why?
Obama had none.
Now it matters.
Why?
Hillary has some.
My problem is with what she's done in acquiring experience.

It's like when administrations are shopping for supreme court justices. The less history they have the better chance they have of being confirmed.
For example, as Secretary of State Hillary was forced to do things that probably any SOS would have had to do in her shoes and most of those were not even her decision.

Her SOS experience isn't the part which concerns me.
Her experiences prior to her Benghazi & email adventures tell me a more important story.

 

[Underhill]

I recall how in 2008, Dems dismissed experience as useless.
Why?
Obama had none.
Now it matters.
Why?
Hillary has some.
My problem is with what she's done in acquiring experience.

Everyone wants experience, it's what kind that matters. Ideally you have a governor in a state in a recovery, who hasn't done anything controversial, but who can claim the credit for the upswing.

Her SOS experience isn't the part which concerns me.
Her experiences prior to her Benghazi & email adventures tell me a more important story.

That may be true for you. I'm not so sure with the rest of the nation. Benghazi, for some unknown reason, still seems to be a hot topic for many people.