Discuss what you think of..China

[PassionFruit53]

Hello dear friends

What are your opinion of China in general? The culture? Its government?

Do you think China and America can be friend in the future?

I would like to hear opinions of all people from around the world. Please discuss with me and I will respond with my best efforts

 

[Jainarayan]

I think China is an economic powerhouse to be reckoned with. I think China (and most of south Asia and east Asia) has a work ethic lacking in much of the west. I can tell you that Chinese-made bass guitars (SX brand) are highly regarded.

 

[BSM1]

I think China is better for greasy dishes as opposed to paper plates.

 

[Jainarayan]

I think China is better for greasy dishes as opposed to paper plates.

But he could clean up my mess...

 

[Koldo]

I think China (and most of south Asia and east Asia) has a work ethic lacking in much of the west.

 

[Jainarayan]

"Oh, I don't want to take a state civil service job because they don't pay as much as my last job". This from a man who was an unemployed computer database admin. and programmer, borrowing money from his parents, and living on his wife's salary, with two small children. This is not an isolated example. Not one single teenager in my development ever picked up a snow shovel when we had snowstorms to shovel their own driveways, or go to neighbors to make $$ shoveling. The list goes on and on.

 

[PassionFruit53]

I think China (and most of south Asia and east Asia) has a work ethic lacking in much of the west.

Hmm?

I don't think that Chinese people work that hard. Chinese people can usually be very lazy (and particularly Chinese men).

But I think Americans work harder than Chinese, and also Japanese work harder than Americans.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

China has the longest history and culture of any nation.
Unlike the west it "Thinks" long term.
In the last twenty years it has embraced the "Modern world"
In the next twenty years it will be the world leader in many important fields.
I feel that its size and diversity has made central direction almost essential to manage its economy.
Human rights have a way to go before they match the expectations of the west.
However they do seem to be responding to popular pressure and injustice far better than in the past.
Leadership has an expectation of, and receives greater respect and obedience than in the west.

It will soon find that it has an active leadership role on the world stage that it can not ignore.
It will have an almost unchallenged position as the leading world power.

Its hardest challenge will be finding a real respect for all its People who are its greatest resource.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Hmm?

I don't think that Chinese people work that hard. Chinese people can usually be very lazy (and particularly Chinese men).

But I think Americans work harder than Chinese, and also Japanese work harder than Americans.

Chinese people of both sexes are known for their ability as hard workers and fine business people when they come to the west. (also rather clever criminals)
Men do seem to dominate women at home.
many British towns have large and long established Chinese communities some going back a hundred or more years.

 

[PassionFruit53]

Human rights have a way to go before they match the expectations of the west.
However they do seem to be responding to popular pressure and injustice far better than in the past.
Leadership has an expectation of, and receives greater respect and obedience than in the west.

I agree completely with ur statement about human rights here. We have many problems, social problem, economic, and also religion-related problem. We had a saying "common people are like water and the government is like a boat. The water could carry the boat but can sink it".

Do you think that the China Communist Party will survive for the next 20 years?

 

[Jainarayan]

Hmm?

I don't think that Chinese people work that hard. Chinese people can usually be very lazy (and particularly Chinese men).

But I think Americans work harder than Chinese, and also Japanese work harder than Americans.

That's very interesting considering the seeming rapid growth of China's infrastructure (Three Gorges Dam, the super highway system being built, etc.) and economy.

 

[Jainarayan]

Do you think that the China Communist Party will survive for the next 20 years?

I think it will change. I always said from the time I was in high school and college that I didn't think the USSR would see the 21st century. I was right. I think a similar thing will happen with China's government. It will change and evolve. Look how much it has in the past 20 years, from my p.o.v. anyway.

 

[Flankerl]

Well which China?
Or just China the area?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I agree completely with ur statement about human rights here. We have many problems, social problem, economic, and also religion-related problem. We had a saying "common people are like water and the government is like a boat. The water could carry the boat but can sink it".

Do you think that the China Communist Party will survive for the next 20 years?

China has always had centralised government, from the time of the first emperor.
At the moment it is called the communist party
What you have today is far removed from the party of " the little red book"
The party is in a structural change to social capitalism (my words)
It is a regimented and controlled form of capitalism.
Eventually the Communist party will evolve into some thing else, but it will still be centralised government.
However the danger to China is corruption (those responsible for the control, can't resist taking a share of the fruits)
Bribery and Corruption have always been the failing of those who run China, it seems to be part of the system.
Any future changes to the system of government, must have regard to this human failing, a balance to it has to be built into the culture and organisation, in such a way that it is always held in check and is self purging.

 

[Caladan]

Hello dear friends

What are your opinion of China in general? The culture? Its government?

I have a few connections to China, apart from travelling its big cities like Beijing and Shanghai, I visited many other of its economic and cultural centres and seen some of its fine cultural and historical gems such at the great wall and the terracotta army at Xi'an. One of my friends married a lovely Chinese girl, and recently they relocated to Shanghai from Israel.
I think that in the past couple of decades Chinese culture have opened up to the rest of the world and there has been a great exchange of ideas in the form of literature and other medias. When it comes to the government I believe it is a slow process of opening up in some ways for economic reasons.

Do you think China and America can be friend in the future?

There have been several stages in Sino-American relations in the past decade. After the 9/11 attacks, the US shifted its attention from China to the Middle East. Under Obama there have been more prospects for cooperation between the nations. The two superpowers are linked in several ways, including trade and the fact that China is the largest American public debt holder. When it comes to security issues, there might be a few signs of Chinese change and consideration of American policies on issues such as reducing the purchase of Iranian oil and reducing support for Syria.

 

[PassionFruit53]

What you have today is far removed from the party of " the little red book"
The party is in a structural change to social capitalism (my words)
It is a regimented and controlled form of capitalism.

I wish one day that China will have true socialism or at least some system close to what they have in Norway Sweden or other European countries.

Right now it is good in China if you are rich or are a politician but it can be hard for many other people. I hope the situation will improve.

I do not want to have our current government, or one like Mao, Stalin and Hitler but sometimes I am afraid of it.

I wish our government allows more free speech and more human rights in general.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I wish one day that China will have true socialism or at least some system close to what they have in Norway Sweden or other European countries.

Right now it is good in China if you are rich or are a politician but it can be hard for many other people. I hope the situation will improve.

I do not want to have our current government, or one like Mao, Stalin and Hitler but sometimes I am afraid of it.

I wish our government allows more free speech and more human rights in general.

Give it time...
It would be far worse if the change came too quickly.
Most of your rich people have become rich in the past twenty years. Most have done so by sailing close to the edge of the law. Some are now dead as a result.

The worst thing that could happen in china is anarchy.
Wealth is never spread evenly in any country, However China has only recently started the process, and it will be many years before some regions will see any benefit.

Speech is far freer than it was a few years ago. The fact you are able to express your self on this forum proves it. Free speech is not absolute in any country, there are always limits. In time those limits will widen in China.
The Young always want change to come faster , greater and more completely than is ever achievable. This is resisted by those that came before. It ensures change is orderly, It never prevents it, as change is inevitable.

 

[illykitty]

I'd love to go and visit China someday. It's got some wonderful landscapes, beautiful animals and relics. I like a lot of its culture and history too. Love/hate relationship with the language (tones especially - easy one word at a time, hard in a sentence). I wish scientists could come up with a pill or brain connection to learn it instantly. XD

The only thing I dislike about China is the low level of human rights, which is better now than before but still has to progress furthur. It's so easy to impose poor rights when you're in top, rich and can do what you want... I feel for the people on the bottom.

 

[Revoltingest]

China, in a nutshell:
- Difficult written language
- Great food
- Terrible quality of their hand tools & machine tools.
- Lots'o people!
- Excrutiating music, especially opera
- Family
- Ambitious
- Wei qi (go)
- Communism
- Capitalism
- N Korea's buddy
- Testy relationship with Japan
- Free Tibet!
- Taiwan must be careful.
- Dust storms & pollution
- A very long wall
- Kung fu (not the TV show)
- Kung pao
- Dinosaurs
- Pandas

 

[PassionFruit53]

One of my friends married a lovely Chinese girl, and recently they relocated to Shanghai from Israel.

Interesting! Actually I once had a boyfriend who came from Israel. He came to China to study Chinese, and do business here.

He was a very nice person and we are still good friends even though he married now. He even invited me to visit him and his wife, child and mother in Israel but at present I cannot afford it.

I think Chinese people and Jewish have a lot in common.

The only thing I dislike about China is the low level of human rights, which is better now than before but still has to progress furthur. It's so easy to impose poor rights when you're in top, rich and can do what you want... I feel for the people on the bottom.

Yes I agree. I feel very strongly about this. My family was poor when I was very young but fortunately my father was one of the lucky ones who could made some small wealth, after he moved to the city. Other families was not so lucky and often they are taken advantage of by corrupt officials and rich people. It is so sad that if we cannot change then things may get worse for poor people.

But also we have big problems with things like freedom of expression or freedom of religion. We cannot protest our government freely. If we want to have a protest like in some Western countries, we have to submit a paper to say what the topic of our protest is, and it has to be approved by the police. Many times they just never approve of it. If you said something the government didn't approve of you can be told to pay fines or even get sent to jail. Some people who wrote things on the internet even had their computer taken away by the police because they disagree with the government.

China, in a nutshell:
- N Korea's buddy
- Testy relationship with Japan
- Free Tibet!
- Taiwan must be careful.

- As a Chinese i have to admit I am ashamed of China supported North Korea, and in the past they also supported the Burma dictatorship. I think because Burma had oil and natural gas it was to keep the strategy.

- Regarding Japan, I do not have any formal opinion on the Japanese but I admire them somewhat because their society is very organized.

- And Even though I am from China I wish Tibet will get freedom someday. I felt that our government lied to us and told us that Tibet belongs to China and that the Dalai Lama a bad man. I am a little bit embarassed by the things that my country did to the Tibetan people.