Do Al Qaeda and ISIS support the Palestinian cause?

[Saint Frankenstein]

it is your opinion, you would not have any documents to argue with the articles I posted .
Report: ISIS Used US and European-Made Weapons

Next you'll be posting about lizard people and claim victory when someone doesn't post an article specifically refuting it. Loony is as loony does.

 

[socharlie]

Next you'll be posting about lizard people and claim victory when someone doesn't post an article specifically refuting it. Loony is as loony does.

gone you gone ad hominem? lol, tells me a lot...

 

[Shad]

msm and google is tabloid too, fake news everywhere

I was talking about your link. Go look at the links that go nowhere or the pathetic photoshopped ID

Iran Contra was fake too? Gladio was fake too? Bin Laden CIA Afghanistan hero was fake too? There dozens if researches.
ISIS, Al Qaeda And The CIA: The Documented Connection

Now you are just whining and flailing wildly because your lack of diligence was exposed.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

gone you gone ad hominem? lol, tells me a lot...

I don't care what it tells you. I used to believe in nonsense like lizard people, myself, and I hate that version of myself so think of that what you will.

 

[metis]

I know what they are and do not patronize their work, they became what press was in the former USSR.

Translation: "I am allowing myself to be brainwashed by avoiding most news sites and only using my favorites".

 

[ronki23]

Abu Anas al Shami and Abdullah Yousef Assam are both Palestinian members of Al Qaeda.

But according to Wikipedia Palestinian Islamic Jihad doesn't get along with Hamas? Hamas are just as bad as Al Qaeda so why does ISIS dislike Hamas and Al Qaeda. Don't give the excuse only ISIS go after civilians because Hamas hide in schools and hospitals and Al Qaeda carried out 9/11, 7/7 and the Luxor Massacre

 

[ronki23]

I'm bumping this because I want to support Palestine but I can't because then I'd be siding with terrorism (Abu Anas al Shami and Abdullah Yousef Assam are both Palestinian members of Al Qaeda).

There's even a Palestinian branch of ISIL.

Israel was wrong to expand it's borders and throw out it's Palestinians but I can't justify the evil deeds of Al Qaeda, ISIL and even Hamas.

 

[Anthem]

is this one of the reasons Palestine is seen as bad by the West?

Everything affects everything, but I would say no.

People say bin Laden was spreading propaganda and doesn't care about the Palestinians but Abdullah Yousef Assam was a Palestinian senior member of Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda have said before in their manifesto they want to liberate Palestine.

All people have priorities. A lot of muslims are upset about palestine because the Palestinians are "one of them".

For some reason ISIS dislikes Hamas

They have different goals. Hamas is a not nearly as radical or barbaric.

 

[Anthem]

Nationalism is haram for fundamentalists, so they do not support Palestinian Nationalism.

haram you mean by Islam? Who they?

 

[Anthem]

What would the Palestinian cause even be, anyway?

To which extent, if at all, does it go beyond simply hating and blaming Israel and "the West" for anything that strikes their fancy and massaging their egos with that hatred?

Sure, there is talk about establishing a Palestinian country. But countries are just conventions. What would actually change with such a country? Would it even be a good thing?

..................

Read a book?

 

[Anthem]

Abu Anas al Shami and Abdullah Yousef Assam are both Palestinian members of Al Qaeda.

But according to Wikipedia Palestinian Islamic Jihad doesn't get along with Hamas? Hamas are just as bad as Al Qaeda so why does ISIS dislike Hamas and Al Qaeda. Don't give the excuse only ISIS go after civilians because Hamas hide in schools and hospitals and Al Qaeda carried out 9/11, 7/7 and the Luxor Massacre

Also a lot of other terrorist oragnisations are supported by Iran but Iran is against ISIS.

 

[Anthem]

I'm bumping this because I want to support Palestine but I can't because then I'd be siding with terrorism (Abu Anas al Shami and Abdullah Yousef Assam are both Palestinian members of Al Qaeda).

There's even a Palestinian branch of ISIL.

Israel was wrong to expand it's borders and throw out it's Palestinians but I can't justify the evil deeds of Al Qaeda, ISIL and even Hamas.

You don't have to side with terrorism to support Palestinians.

Besides, there's plenty more than enough of evil on Israel's side.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

is this one of the reasons Palestine is seen as bad by the West? People say bin Laden was spreading propaganda and doesn't care about the Palestinians but Abdullah Yousef Assam was a Palestinian senior member of Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda have said before in their manifesto they want to liberate Palestine.

For some reason ISIS dislikes Hamas

I'm pro Palestinian but anti Hamas. I'm definitely against ISIS and Al Qaeda

American support of Israel against Palestine was THE reason for ALL of Al Qaeda's attacks on US interests. It was easier to simply dismiss them as crazy and evil and "hating our freedom" rather than actually discussing their motivations.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Also a lot of other terrorist oragnisations are supported by Iran but Iran is against ISIS.

Trying to work out Middle Eastern loyalties and enmities is extremely difficult in the Western "goodies vs. baddies" dichotomous paradigm. Even the more nuanced "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is of limited use. It's also important to remember when discussing these issues pertaining to the Middle East, especially the non-state actors, that just because two players were allies yesterday, is not necessarily reason to expect them to be allies tomorrow, and ditto enemies.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Just dig. You' find plenty of evidence. something like this
Declassified Documents: Obama Ordered CIA To Train ISIS

While ISIS was certainly ASSISTED by Western powers at certain stages, that's not the same thing as claiming that ISIS IS the CIA. Also, as noted, even if the CIA and ISIS had a working relationship at one time, that does not mean they have a working relationship now. Middle Eastern loyalties and alliances are about as stable as sand dunes.

 

[Anthem]

Trying to work out Middle Eastern loyalties and enmities is extremely difficult in the Western "goodies vs. baddies" dichotomous paradigm. Even the more nuanced "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is of limited use. It's also important to remember when discussing these issues pertaining to the Middle East, especially the non-state actors, that just because two players were allies yesterday, is not necessarily reason to expect them to be allies tomorrow, and ditto enemies.

What's your point?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

What's your point?

Exactly what I said. What part was unclear?

 

[Anthem]

Exactly what I said. What part was unclear?

Where it correlated to my post.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Where it correlated to my post.

It was further building on your post, trying to explain some facts that are counter intuitive to some people.

 

[Augustus]

haram you mean by Islam? Who they?

They = AQ and ISIS.

For extremists anything which divides the Ummah is bad as they should be living in a pan-Islamic Caliphate so supporting a nationalist independence movement does not chime with their ideology.