Do aliens exist?

[Penumbra]

Look at it this way - throughout the billion-year life time of the planet Earth, the vast, vast majority of time there has been no life at all and it is a miniscule proportion of that time that humans have been around to be consciously aware of any alien visitors or communications and even now, only in a limited manner. Even if a particular planet is capable of generating and supporting life, it's still a massive long short to catch it at any meaningful point.

In short, single-cell organisms in some pool of liquid out there, probably. Little green men in flying saucers, probably not.

The statement that for the vast majority of time there has been no life on Earth is incorrect. Scientific evidence shows that life has existed on the planet for at least half of its existence in single-cell form, and perhaps up to three quarters of Earth's history or more.

So, life seems to have developed fairly quickly on Earth once the chaos settled from the first billion or so years, and the result is that Earth has had life for the majority of its existence.

Then, based on results from the Kepler space telescope, there statistically should be billions of planets similar to Earth in our galaxy, and then current estimates from NASA suggest that the number of galaxies in the universe at least number in the hundreds of billions, which means there are probably more galaxies in the universe than there are stars in our galaxy.

I'd go with the safe vote, that a lot of lifeforms probably exist out there. I haven't seen convincing evidence that anything has visited Earth yet, though.

 

[Revoltingest]

If they do exist then talk to us already.

I eagerly await Kleeborg's return....the real Kleeborg (from Canuckistan).

 

[roger1440]

What I believe separates the thought that there aliens are a rational concept.
What do you think?

I know for a fact aliens exist. There is a family of them living next door to me. I think they are Mexicans.

 

[Me Myself]

I am alien all the time.

Rather anoying.

I try really hard to appear human and no one appreciates

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yes, of course. I think that there's probably life, including intelligent life, throughout the universe. The numbers certainly are in favor of extraterrestrials existing. Then when you start talking about the multiverse concept...well, it's a done deal, then. Haha.

 

[Parsimony]

I certainly hope so. I also hope that I live to see its discovery. However, I think I'd prefer it if all we found at first were creatures more primitive than us. There's no telling what would happen if something more advanced made contact...

 

[ResistETIntervention]

I certainly hope so. I also hope that I live to see its discovery. However, I think I'd prefer it if all we found at first were creatures more primitive than us. There's no telling what would happen if something more advanced made contact...

Clearly, if any extraterrestrials made contact, then they would be more advanced than we are, at least technologically. Isn't that so? Not only are there countless races of extraterrestrials out in the universe, but also are some of them "visiting" here on Earth.

 

[Sha'irullah]

I certainly hope so. I also hope that I live to see its discovery. However, I think I'd prefer it if all we found at first were creatures more primitive than us. There's no telling what would happen if something more advanced made contact...

Sorry dude I had to do that .


But I am fascinated that I am not the only one who has come to this possible realization because in general Japanese culture has a habit of always depicting aliens as Inju(monsters). Just beastly animals as you may see in various media.

As Americans we always portray aliens as being technologically advanced for some reason with no justification for this notion. This is why I heavily loved Ridley Scott's portrayal for the Xenomorphs in the movie Alien and Prometheus.

 

[Curious George]

You know mega herpes crabs. Who has not heard of mega herpes crabs:sarcastic

No, ghonna-herpa-cyphal-aids

 

[ResistETIntervention]

But I am fascinated that I am not the only one who has come to this possible realization because in general Japanese culture has a habit of always depicting aliens as Inju(monsters). Just beastly animals as you may see in various media.

As Americans we always portray aliens as being technologically advanced for some reason with no justification for this notion. This is why I heavily loved Ridley Scott's portrayal for the Xenomorphs in the movie Alien and Prometheus.

The fact that extraterrestrials can fly their spaceships at superluminal speeds while human beings barely made their way out of the Earth to the moon would be one of the reasons why Americans assume, or rather, logically derived that ETs are technologically more advanced. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out...literally and figuratively.

Yet, that is not to say that the ETs are more advanced than the human race in every way. ETs are not monsters, but simply physical beings that have exhausted the resources in their world. They are space-travelling resource explorers.

 

[Parsimony]

Ugh, I hate American Dad...

My assertion that I hoped for us to find aliens that are more primitive than us was in regards to just that: us finding them. Microbes on Europa or Mars come to mind.

 

[ResistETIntervention]

Ugh, I hate American Dad...

My assertion that I hoped for us to find aliens that are more primitive than us was in regards to just that: us finding them. Microbes on Europa or Mars come to mind.

You might want to try reading this thread: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/paranormal-activities/144903-ufo-et-phenomenon.html.

 

[Parsimony]

You might want to try reading this thread: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/paranormal-activities/144903-ufo-et-phenomenon.html.

Oh believe me, I've had quite a fascination with UFO sightings and alien abduction reports since I was a child (in spite of the fact that I sometimes had trouble sleeping at night for fear of them). As interested as I have been in this topic (including having my own UFO sighting) I'm still not convinced that we are being visited by an advanced species from the stars.

 

[Sha'irullah]

The fact that extraterrestrials can fly their spaceships at superluminal speeds while human beings barely made their way out of the Earth to the moon would be one of the reasons why Americans assume, or rather, logically derived that ETs are technologically more advanced. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out...literally and figuratively.

Yet, that is not to say that the ETs are more advanced than the human race in every way. ETs are not monsters, but simply physical beings that have exhausted the resources in their world. They are space-travelling resource explorers.

You are stating this as fact, prove to me that aliens exist.

To be more specific, prove to me that we have encountered aliens using any sort of craft at all. Try doing so without mention Area 51 also. You cannot just state extraordinary claims as fact and not back it up.

 

[ResistETIntervention]

Oh believe me, I've had quite a fascination with UFO sightings and alien abduction reports since I was a child (in spite of the fact that I sometimes had trouble sleeping at night for fear of them). As interested as I have been in this topic (including having my own UFO sighting) I'm still not convinced that we are being visited by an advanced species from the stars.

Does it make you feel part of the mainstream to deny what you really think of your sightings and alien abduction reports? Rarely would a child attempt to find out about these things unless they have had a direct experience with the ETs. Have you?

 

[ResistETIntervention]

You are stating this as fact, prove to me that aliens exist.

To be more specific, prove to me that we have encountered aliens using any sort of craft at all. Try doing so without mention Area 51 also. You cannot just state extraordinary claims as fact and not back it up.

What would you consider a proof? You can always do the research yourself. Many have lazily demanded proofs of the Extraterrestrial Intervention, when vast amount of information can be found online. Of course you do need to exercise your discernment as you sift through on the internet, as there is also a vast amount of disinformation as well.

Those who cannot see the reality would reject the reality even if an alien stepped out of a spacecraft on their backyard. Those who can see will be able to see.

There are a few threads here in this sub-forum, that you can read through as well. If you're earnest about finding out about the ET Intervention, you would do the research yourself. If you are too fearful of it and want to reject it, then you would reject it no matter how many proofs are provided to you.

 

[Parsimony]

Does it make you feel part of the mainstream to deny what you really think of your sightings and alien abduction reports?

An interesting choice of words. I never said that I was convinced that they do not exist. I am currently agnostic in regards to the UFO and abduction phenomenon. I haven't seen evidence compelling enough to convince me either way.

The reason I am skeptical about my own sighting is because it was so vague. It was basically a ball of light in the sky that moved and disappeared. It's not possible to discern from my experience what it was that I saw. There is not sufficient information. To come to the hasty conclusion that it must be an alien spaceship simply because I don't know what it was would be an example of the argument from ignorance.

Rarely would a child attempt to find out about these things unless they have had a direct experience with the ETs. Have you?

I have had no direct experience with ETs, no. Or if I have, they must have excellent memory-erasing technology as I have no memories whatsoever of any potential abductions.

 

[ResistETIntervention]

The reason I am skeptical about my own sighting is because it was so vague. It was basically a ball of light in the sky that moved and disappeared. It's not possible to discern from my experience what it was that I saw. There is not sufficient information. To come to the hasty conclusion that it must be an alien spaceship simply because I don't know what it was would be an example of the argument from ignorance.

Yes, people are brainwashed to think so. Instead of urging people to think about what could have possibly created such brilliant light in the sky, that would just speed away at an unearthly rate (yes, pun intended), people are urged to regard themselves as unintelligent if they come to "hasty conclusions" about their sightings. I urge you to do more searching.

 

[Parsimony]

You must be talking about a personal sighting, as that does not describe my own sighting. My sighting could well have been explained by ball lightning or some similar phenomenon. There was no sign at all that it was technological.

 

[ResistETIntervention]

You must be talking about a personal sighting, as that does not describe my own sighting. My sighting could well have been explained by ball lightning or some similar phenomenon. There was no sign at all that it was technological.

My sightings indicated to me that the objects would have had to have been engineered and maneuvered by intelligent beings that were not human beings. http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/paranormal-activities/144903-ufo-et-phenomenon.html

Yet, instead of focusing on balls of lights in the sky (which are important enough evidence, as these ETs attempt to carry out their activities covertly), try finding more concrete evidence. http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-debates/153469-ufo-et-phenomenon-reality-hoax.html