Do all Christian churches teach from the Bible?

[Katzpur]

Yes, I know... Some, including mine, teach from other religious texts in addition to the Bible, and some include tradition as part of their teachings. And yes, I also know that there is a wide range of interpretation as to what the Bible is actually saying. But are there any Christian churches that simply disregard the Bible or refer to it only on a rare occasion? I can't think of any, but maybe there are some. Anyone?

 

[Katzpur]

Yes, I know... Some, including mine, teach from other religious texts in addition to the Bible, and some include tradition as part of their teachings. And yes, I also know that there is a wide range of interpretation as to what the Bible is actually saying. But are there any Christian churches that simply disregard the Bible or refer to it only on a rare occasion? I can't think of any, but maybe there are some. Anyone?

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Well, I guess I was misinformed then, because just yesterday, another Christian posters said, "Some Christians don't even teach from the Bible." From the responses I'm not reading, I guess that's wrong.

 

[PetShopBoy88]

So did you start this thread to prove another poster wrong?

 

[Katzpur]

So did you start this thread to prove another poster wrong?

I actually started it because I thought she was wrong and wanted to find out for sure. I'm learning new things here all the time, and this could have proved to be one of those times. I also didn't want to digress from the OP of the thread in which she made that statement. I'm actually glad to hear that all Christian denominations use the Bible, since I believe it to be a great book (not complete, not inerrant, but still great).

 

[angellous_evangellous]

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Well, I guess I was misinformed then, because just yesterday, another Christian posters said, "Some Christians don't even teach from the Bible." From the responses I'm not reading, I guess that's wrong.

There are many Christian pastors out there who teach and preach from secondary sources only, that may not be Christian in nature or even loosely based on the Bible. But I can't name an entire denomenation that does this as a policy.

 

[Quiddity]

There are many Christian pastors out there who teach and preach from secondary sources only, that may not be Christian in nature or even loosely based on the Bible. But I can't name an entire denomenation that does this as a policy.

Nor can I. Isn't that like wanting a peanut-butter sandwich with no peanut butter?

 

[sojourner]

:drool:

Mmmmm........Unexplained peanut butter!

 

[may]

some claim to follow the bible , but when the beliefs are looked at in more depth ,we see that they are mixing their bible based beliefs with manmade doctrines. and that is never right in the eyes of the God of the bible.:no:

 

[joeboonda]

Something interesting:

A new minister came to a certain church. He was full of sophisticated knowledge and taught little from the Bible. At the end of two years he was told that one of the leading men of his church was ill. He went to see him. There was no chance of recovery; the man was dying. After a little talk the minister said, "Shall I read to you and pray with you?"

"Yes," replied the man, and beckoned to his wife to bring the Bible. A Bible was brought, and the minister opened it and saw a strange sight. Some books were taken out of it, some pages were torn away, some chapters gone, and some verses cut out; it was a shamefully mangled Bible.

The minister said, "Have you got no better Bible than this?"

The dying man said, "When you came to our church I had a whole Bible. But as soon as you told me that one book was fiction I tore it out; and that one chapter was not true, I removed it; and that some verses were unauthentic, I cut them out. And if I had had another year under you, I think I should have had the two covers and nothing else."

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I thought that rather interesting, for we do have God's Holy Word today! It IS perfect and without error! If you can't believe that you are calling God a liar, and you will have to answer to Him for it.

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19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
19:10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
19:11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
(King James Bible, Psalms)

10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
(King James Bible, Romans)

119:89 For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven.
(King James Bible, Psalms)

24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
(King James Bible, Matthew)

23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
(King James Bible, Numbers)

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Churches should use the whole Word of God, and trust it, believe it, for it is indeed God's very Word preserved to us:

3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
(King James Bible, 2 Timothy)

1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
(King James Bible, 2 Peter)

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Believe what you want, but I will sing: "The B-I-B-L-E, yes that's the book for me, I stand alone on the Word of God, the B-I-B-L-E!

 

[sojourner]

The Bible also teaches "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." Taking this literalistically, we end up with a society of blind, toothless people.

Your story is poignant, but it does not ring true, because the Bible you use has already been "hacked to pieces" by editors, redactors and translators. How do you know that the Bible the Orthodox use isn't "real?" What about the books you reject as being "untrue?"

10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
(King James Bible, Romans)

This passage was written before the NT was considered to be the word of God -- the gospels hadn't been written yet! Therefore, what did Paul mean by the "word of God?" Possibly something other than the Bible as it now rests in your hands, I suspect.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

The dying man said, "When you came to our church I had a whole Bible. But as soon as you told me that one book was fiction I tore it out; and that one chapter was not true, I removed it; and that some verses were unauthentic, I cut them out. And if I had had another year under you, I think I should have had the two covers and nothing else."

What a moron.

Note who does the mutilating. It's not the pastor, it's the wreckless weak-minded layperson.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Some books were taken out of it, some pages were torn away, some chapters gone, and some verses cut out; it was a shamefully mangled Bible.

An adequate description of the Protestant canon.

 

[joeboonda]

From my studies, I have concluded that I believe in the inerrancy, infallibility, and literal truth of the Bible in every detail, the virgin birth and complete deity of Jesus Christ; the physical resurrection of Christ and all dead; the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world; and the second coming of Christ in bodily form. You all believe whatever you want and I will believe the Holy Bible.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

From my studies, I have concluded that I believe in the inerrancy, infallibility, and literal truth of the Bible in every detail, the virgin birth and complete deity of Jesus Christ; the physical resurrection of Christ and all dead; the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world; and the second coming of Christ in bodily form. You all believe whatever you want and I will believe the Holy Bible.

You mean from listening to fundamentalist preachers or reading their articles online? It's a rare thing for a dogmatic statement that requires no critical thought to be the result of actual study.

You didn't need to study anything to produce these results.

 

[sojourner]

I've always been confused by that phrase "from the Bible." As far as I'm aware, those liturgical chruches (RC, Anglican, Lutheran, among others) that use the Lectionary do preach from the Bible. yet, many evangelicals claim that they do not! What is the criterion by which one is said to "preach from the Bible?"

 

[may]

i would say that with the death of the apostles, the great apostacy started just as the bible said it would. and many of the beliefs of christendom have been tainted with this , and most of the people in christendom dont even realize it. they think it is bible based when really it is not bible based at all

 

[joeboonda]

You mean from listening to fundamentalist preachers or reading their articles online? It's a rare thing for a dogmatic statement that requires no critical thought to be the result of actual study.

You didn't need to study anything to produce these results.

All I have done is study these things from a child. I was saved when I was 8, and as I grew older I was a questioner, searcher, seeker, and still am, but, I am 41 now, and long ago, I decided to seek out wisdom, understanding, and knowledge, and began purchasing books and studying these things for myself. For me, and it is my belief from my own thinking and studying, that the Bible is God's Word, from cover to cover, and Jesus is the way to Heaven. I believe in Jesus, that's all.

 

[athanasius]

Mr May,

How could a "full and complete apostacy" ever happen in the church that Christ Jesus founded?? There will always be people who will fall away into heresy and apostacy. Church history shows many examples, such as the Arians, Montantist, Manicheans, Sabellians, Macedonians etc.

This will happen in all ages. However, How can a complete or full apostacy happen when Jesus himself promised that the gates of death would never prevail in his church(Matt 16:18). Jesus also promised his church that he would send the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth(John 16:13-14).

Jesus also sent out his church instructing them to teach and baptise and he promised them he would be with them until the end of time(Matt 28:19-20).

I know that Paul talks about people who will fall into heresy and warns them. This is all over the book of Hebrews (for example Heb 6:1-8). There certainly would be peoplle who will fall into apostacy, but definitely not the entire church as Jesus would be with it to guide it until the end as the above passages mentioned.

So are you saying that the entire church apostacized? Or are you saying that some did and the church as a whole didn't? If you are saying the church as whole didn't go into complete apostacy(Which is correct),then are you saying that the "Jehovahs witnesses" were the early Church that didn't but all the rest did????

I ask this to you becuase your a JW and I wondered if this is what you meant? If so I would like to hear you historical testimony on this?? Especially on the formation of the Christian New testament Canon and the beginnings of Jehovahs Witness in the 1800's.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I've always been confused by that phrase "from the Bible." As far as I'm aware, those liturgical chruches (RC, Anglican, Lutheran, among others) that use the Lectionary do preach from the Bible. yet, many evangelicals claim that they do not! What is the criterion by which one is said to "preach from the Bible?"

The church Of England certainly preach from the Bible.
But not all the time.
a good preacher can "weave his spell" so to speak on any subject, in doing so he may bring in many Biblical Ideas with out so much as giving a reference.
This is often far more instructional than a formal sermon based on a single reference, that some use to start and finish their sermons.
Times have moved on, and a priest who can continue to pass on Christs teachings to this generation in a meaningful way, is truly doing Gods work.

 

[Snowbear]

... What is the criterion by which one is said to "preach from the Bible?"

If the first words of the sermon are something to the effect of, "Please turn with me in your Bibles to _________ ," then there's a pretty good chance the preaching will be from the Word of God