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Do All Republican Candidates Favor Insurrection?

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
It's obvious to anyone not belonging to Trump's cult.

If it were so obvious, you would have no problem providing documented evidence from a reliable source. However, you seem to be having some trouble providing any. I wonder why that is.

Whats obvious is that Revol and Sub Z have yet to manage to tell us what definition of insurrection they are using .. dodging and deflecting by giving a list of numerous definitions .. not stating which definition applies to the Capital Protest.. then coming up with the lame nonsense below.


No, I did provide a definition, but you had your ostrich defense going.

And it does not matter. @Revoltingest provided a perfectly good definition.


You need to shake the effects of your TDS.


Once again .. Name calling is not an argument for much. You did not provide a definition ..nor Revolt .. that you think applies. What was provided was a list of possible definitions from a dictionary .. but you did not tell us which definition you are claiming applies to Trumps charge of "insurrection" - followed by disingenuously feigning obvlivion .. as if you don't understand that providing a list of definitions does not tell us which one you are using .. after which you call names "TDS"

Is disingenuously feigning oblivion not a sign of "TDS" lads ?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The charges you mention were based on words and not actual deeds. Did Pence over turn the election? No. Did Trump prosecute any secretaries of state? No.

The Left always complains how Trump lies, and now wants to believes all Trump's words one one day, has long legs. Biden and Obama spied on candidate Trump, in a way worse than Nixon, They used the FBI and CIA, under the excuse of the Russian Collusion scam. Nobody has denied the action that spying did occur This happened. There was more than a threat to spy. However, Biden and company tried to deny the action with words, until caught; FISA so others take the fall. Nothing happened even to those crooks. I was waiting for Nixon to pass the torch. Actions speak louder than words. Let us speak of tangible things and not just idle threats and pretend deeds threatened, but just things that actually happened. You will never get the death penalty for saying you will kill someone if they are still around without a scratch; words mean less than actions if you are rooted in reality

As far as the so called "insurrection", what bothers me, is how ill planned and wimpy it was. I m not saying I wanted an insurrection but why was it so limp for an insurrection? We should call it an E.D-surrection Doesn't an insurrection have more gusto?

Trump, as both a business leader and as President was a workoholic and he would work his staff hard. The Government workers, who you cannot fire, were not used to his pace, so he went thought staff like socks. If he had been planning an insurrection, it would have be the best insurrection and not something so limp. Trump was on good terms with the Military, but not with the CIA and FBI. Why not a use some of those trained people who were loyal? Why use untrained and ill equipped civilians?

The insurrections of the summer of 2020, under the guise of racial riots, were well planned, well stocked, and well executed over many cities and nobody got punished. You do not think that Trump, could have done that with only one building in one city, if he had recruited the right people to make it work? There was little Capital defense even with a warning. Why so wimpy all ways?

Do you think anyone would purposely plan such a wimpy insurrection, that was guaranteed to fail, due to poor planning, lack of resources and the improper personnel, all with no escape plans, knowing you will be held accountable, even if you did not do it? This day was too dumbed down to be the work of Trump, or any Trump supporting spooks in the Military.

This why I believe this was a setup, since not a single crooked politician broke a nail or missed lunch. The insurrection of the summer of 2020 was far more scary and did more damage and nobody was punished. That is what you expected of better planning. The real insurrection by the pro's was during the summer. That is what I would have expected if Trump went coco had the mind to do this; called in the experts, like the Democrats did to secure and take the heat buffering the brass.

One last thing Trump was never formally charge with Insurrection, including by the jan 6, committee. The mantra you speak is similar to the fake news charge of collusion in 2016. How many sang that? It is political game for gullible people. It is deigned for zero salary windmill fighters.
Why does anyone think that a failed insurrection, like, doesn't count or something? Why does anyone think this is a valid argument for anything at all??

If my friends and I plan to rob a bank, and then when we try to rob it, we mess up massively and can't get into the vault, and end up being caught, does that suddenly mean we didn't commit a crime? Of course not!!

Gimme a break with this.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Even I don't think Joe Biden is all that bad, at least in his present dementia ridden state, but then again he's a puppet president that clearly is easily controlled and guided behind the scene making his unelected handlers the worst ones than Trump is as they're the ones who are really controlling the show while they pulled the strings of their POTUS puppet.

Biden is a marionette.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Whats obvious is that Revol and Sub Z have yet to manage to tell us what definition of insurrection they are using .. dodging and deflecting by giving a list of numerous definitions .. not stating which definition applies to the Capital Protest.. then coming up with the lame nonsense below.





Once again .. Name calling is not an argument for much. You did not provide a definition ..nor Revolt .. that you think applies. What was provided was a list of possible definitions from a dictionary .. but you did not tell us which definition you are claiming applies to Trumps charge of "insurrection" - followed by disingenuously feigning obvlivion .. as if you don't understand that providing a list of definitions does not tell us which one you are using .. after which you call names "TDS"

Is disingenuously feigning oblivion not a sign of "TDS" lads ?
No, I wrote out a definition for you. But just as you ignored the legal precedent that I provided for disqualification of Trump you ignored that too.

And please, when you cannot even follow the posts that refute you the TDS symptoms appear to be yours. Don't accuse others of doing what you do.

Lastly you do have to at least play the part of being an honest interlocutor if you want to demand anything. That means that you have to acknowledge previous fulfilled demands. You never did admit how you screwed up when you demanded a definition of "insurrection" from @Revoltingest , you did not say it, but later on you told use that you meant to have him do it in his own words. You never said that nor was it even implied in your first demand.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, I wrote out a definition for you. But just as you ignored the legal precedent that I provided for disqualification of Trump you ignored that too.

And please, when you cannot even follow the posts that refute you the TDS symptoms appear to be yours. Don't accuse others of doing what you do.

Lastly you do have to at least play the part of being an honest interlocutor if you want to demand anything. That means that you have to acknowledge previous fulfilled demands. You never did admit how you screwed up when you demanded a definition of "insurrection" from @Revoltingest , you did not say it, but later on you told use that you meant to have him do it in his own words. You never said that nor was it even implied in your first demand.
Your are a dedicated poster.
I spend fewer words on him.
He denied that I ever gave the posted
definition, so it's pointless to give it again.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
No, I wrote out a definition for you. But just as you ignored the legal precedent that I provided for disqualification of Trump you ignored that too.

And please, when you cannot even follow the posts that refute you the TDS symptoms appear to be yours. Don't accuse others of doing what you do.

Lastly you do have to at least play the part of being an honest interlocutor if you want to demand anything. That means that you have to acknowledge previous fulfilled demands. You never did admit how you screwed up when you demanded a definition of "insurrection" from @Revoltingest , you did not say it, but later on you told use that you meant to have him do it in his own words. You never said that nor was it even implied in your first demand.

What definition was this you claim to have written out .. that I ignored .. What a bunch of nonsense .. State this definition that I ignored.

The legal precident you cited had zero to do with disqualification of Trump .. a complete figment of your imagination ..the reasons were stated to you at the time .. why the precident did not apply.

Now support these bold claims of yours .. provide this definiton at once .. and provide the joke of a legal precedent you figured applied but completely did not if you like so we can once again have a chuckle on account of TDS .. A syndrome you brought up but seem not to understand .. Trump Derangement Syndrome is when folks hate Trump so much that logic and rational thought are replaced by emotional responses .. That which you are displaying. I don't hate Trump friend .. not particularly fond of the guy .. nausiating woud be on of the first thoughts comes to mind but .. no big emotional response that would lead me to abandon logic and reason .. just another dirty cop .. Same as the Old Boss if you are old enough to remember the Who.

Ya Got nothing .. position crucified .. trying to revive dead horse .. coming back to same vomit .. Where is this definition of insurrection you are so proud of ? the one you keep avoiding .. deflecting from providing for 10 posts .. what is it your hiding .. Mr. Emperor !
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What definition was this you claim to have written out .. that I ignored .. What a bunch of nonsense .. State this definition that I ignored.

The legal precident you cited had zero to do with disqualification of Trump .. a complete figment of your imagination ..the reasons were stated to you at the time .. why the precident did not apply.

Now support these bold claims of yours .. provide this definiton at once .. and provide the joke of a legal precedent you figured applied but completely did not if you like so we can once again have a chuckle on account of TDS .. A syndrome you brought up but seem not to understand .. Trump Derangement Syndrome is when folks hate Trump so much that logic and rational thought are replaced by emotional responses .. That which you are displaying. I don't hate Trump friend .. not particularly fond of the guy .. nausiating woud be on of the first thoughts comes to mind but .. no big emotional response that would lead me to abandon logic and reason .. just another dirty cop .. Same as the Old Boss if you are old enough to remember the Who.

Ya Got nothing .. position crucified .. trying to revive dead horse .. coming back to same vomit .. Where is this definition of insurrection you are so proud of ? the one you keep avoiding .. deflecting from providing for 10 posts .. what is it your hiding .. Mr. Emperor !
No, do your own homework for once. I have not deleted anything.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Your are a dedicated poster.
I spend fewer words on him.
He denied that I ever gave the posted
definition, so it's pointless to give it again.
I agree. Which is why I denied his demand that followed your post. He still has not acknowledged that I posted case law precedent in the 14th Amendment disqualification debate. What was interesting about that is that there was a person that claimed, and very well may have been a lawyer that was supporting the no removal side. He too was using some of the same arguments. But after reading the argument from my source, which included case law precedents, he totally dropped out of that debate.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I agree. Which is why I denied his demand that followed your post. He still has not acknowledged that I posted case law precedent in the 14th Amendment disqualification debate. What was interesting about that is that there was a person that claimed, and very well may have been a lawyer that was supporting the no removal side. He too was using some of the same arguments. But after reading the argument from my source, which included case law precedents, he totally dropped out of that debate.
So you too suffer from invisible post syndrome, eh.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
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Sargonski

Well-Known Member
No, do your own homework for once. I have not deleted anything.

Its not my homework friend .. once again you are confused - You are the one who is failing to produce a the definition of insurrection you are using ,, instead producing a wild goose chase because your claim that Trump is guilty of insurrection is a lost and hopeless cause :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Its not my homework friend .. once again you are confused - You are the one who is failing to produce a the definition of insurrection you are using ,, instead producing a wild goose chase because your claim that Trump is guilty of insurrection is a lost and hopeless cause :)
It is. I responded to you and you ignored it. Your claim might be valid if this was your first time, but you have a history of doing this.
 
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