Do Muslims want to Assimilate?

[Useless2015]

Except the problem with that type of thinking is that it's the western politicians and leaders who authorize military action in muslim countries, not the civilians.
Who gets targeted in these suicide bomb attacks?

How do those politicians get the authority?

 

[Sakeenah]

hi,

Thanks for correcting me..I'm not a native english speaker so I should have used the word bigot instead of racist.

@Aquitaine

 

[MARCELLO]

Personally, I don't vote here. But with 80% of Jews in Israel not religious, its a catch-22. If they don't work with the government, the government is likely to create legislature that will negatively affect us. If I recall correctly, there are certain positions in the government that the Haredi parties will not fill in deferment to that idea though.

Off the topic but I was always curious how orthodox you are by your look and dress,do you wear tzittzit,have you got peyots?

 

[MARCELLO]

Does a society have some obligation to welcome immigrants?

Of course not just as same as a society or societies of millions are not obliged to welcome ''other immigrants '' coming to invade them to liberate them or vacuum their oil or gold reserves.

 

[Tumah]

Off the topic but I was always curious how orthodox you are by your look and dress,do you wear tzittzit,have you got peyots?

I'm not sure I understand the first part of what you are saying here. But yes to the last two questions.

 

[MARCELLO]

I'm not sure I understand the first part of what you are saying here. But yes to the last two questions.

Thanks,you answered what I was asking.

 

[icehorse]

Of course not just as same as a society or societies of millions are not obliged to welcome ''other immigrants '' coming to invade them to liberate them or vacuum their oil or gold reserves.

Given that this thread is about Islam, I hope you're not implying that Muslims are always the invadees. Because that would be grossly inaccurate.

 

[Aquitaine]

How do those politicians get the authority?

The Iraq war protests were some of the largest in the developed world. If I remember correctly, when Tony Blair took the UK to war in Iraq, the majority of the population were against it by a small but definite majority; this is after the lies and propaganda the public were fed about Saddam Hussein harbouring WMDs that he intended to use against us, which could be launched within a 45 minute window.
Not too long ago David Cameron attempted to drag the UK directly in to a full-scale intervention in Syria; after the massive public backlash and rebellion by his own MPs, he backed down.

But by all means, keeping thinking Joe Public is in-charge of our military operations overseas if that keeps up your fantasy narrative of the glorious suicide bomber martyrs justifiably killing kuffar civilians.

 

[Aquitaine]

hi,

Thanks for correcting me..I'm not a native english speaker so I should have used the word bigot instead of racist.

@Aquitaine

No worries.

 

[MARCELLO]

Given that this thread is about Islam, I hope you're not implying that Muslims are always the invadees. Because that would be grossly inaccurate.

''Does a society have some obligation to welcome immigrants?''

That was just what you said. And I answered to this. Any more givens?

 

[icehorse]

''Does a society have some obligation to welcome immigrants?''

That was just what you said. And I answered to this. Any more givens?

Immigration and invasion are two different topics, you seem to be correlating the two?

 

[MARCELLO]

Immigration and invasion are two different topics, you seem to be correlating the two?

Again, I say that it was a response to what you declared. Is it really that much difficult to understand?

 

[icehorse]

Again, I say that it was a response to what you declared. Is it really that much difficult to understand?

I find your post to be ambiguous. I *suspect* I know your intention, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

 

[Useless2015]

The Iraq war protests were some of the largest in the developed world. If I remember correctly, when Tony Blair took the UK to war in Iraq, the majority of the population were against it by a small but definite majority; this is after the lies and propaganda the public were fed about Saddam Hussein harbouring WMDs that he intended to use against us, which could be launched within a 45 minute window.
Not too long ago David Cameron attempted to drag the UK directly in to a full-scale intervention in Syria; after the massive public backlash and rebellion by his own MPs, he backed down.

But by all means, keeping thinking Joe Public is in-charge of our military operations overseas if that keeps up your fantasy narrative of the glorious suicide bomber martyrs justifiably killing kuffar civilians.

I'm not justifying anything. All i said was that the main reason why some muslims dislike the West is because of the fact the West is killing and oppressing muslims. These things cannot be denied..

 

[Aquitaine]

I'm not justifying anything. All i said was that the main reason why some muslims dislike the West is because of the fact the West is killing and oppressing muslims. These things cannot be denied..

The foreign policies enacted by politicians still do not justify terrorism against civilians, at least in my opinion.

 

[Sakeenah]

The foreign policies enacted by politicians still do not justify terrorism against civilians, at least in my opinion.

I agree with you.
And the terrorist acts committed by extremists does not justify hostility and bigotry against immigrants. Imo

 

[psychoslice]

I don't think they do, for they are against everything that doesn't agree with their teachings, they are too involved in what they believe to see in any other beliefs system, they can only see their own and that is it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

"Muslim immigrants do not want to assimilate into their host countries." True. It is forbidden in the Holy Quran.

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
"O ye who believe! Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport - whether among those who received the Scripture (i.e., the Bible) before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have Faith (indeed)."
"Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with God."
"O ye who believe! Turn not (for friendship) To people on whom Is the Wrath of Allah. Of the Hereafter they are Already in despair, just as The Unbelievers are In despair about those (Buried) in graves."
http://www.answering-christianity.com/friends.htm

 

[MARCELLO]

I'm not justifying anything. All i said was that the main reason why some muslims dislike the West is because of the fact the West is killing and oppressing muslims. These things cannot be denied..

This aint an excuse. Have you ever seen a jew bombing Germans?

 

[MARCELLO]

I find your post to be ambiguous. I *suspect* I know your intention, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

You clearly dislike muslims ,don't you?