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do new bible speak about antichrist?

alishan

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hi

did jesus spoke about a man with one eye who will deceive everybody by false miracle at the end of the time before his return? ..
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
hi

did jesus spoke about a man with one eye who will deceive everybody by false miracle at the end of the time before his return? ..


i dont know about a man with one eye, but he said there would be many antichrists and people claiming to be a prophet who would come into the world.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many

Matthew 7:15 “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them

Acts 20:29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and from among YOU yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves


1John 4:2 YOU gain the knowledge of the inspired expression from God by this: Every inspired expression that confesses Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God, 3 butevery inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s [inspired expression] which YOU have heard was coming,and now it is already in the world.

1Timothy 4:1 However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, marked in their conscience as with a branding iron; 3 forbidding to marry, commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be partaken of with thanksgiving by those who have faith and accurately know the truth. 4 The reason for this is that every creation of God is fine, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving
 

alishan

Active Member
thanks because antichrist just mean "coming before the second coming of our lord jésus peace upon him , before his return"

but i speak about a precise antichrist that would arrive at the end of the time and with one eye in arabic dajjal .

the last antichrist before the return of jésus as , the big one the big boss of the antichrist
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
thanks because antichrist just mean "coming before the second coming of our lord jésus peace upon him , before his return"

but i speak about a precise antichrist that would arrive at the end of the time and with one eye in arabic dajjal .

the last antichrist before the return of jésus as , the big one the big boss of the antichrist

Oh, well the bible doesnt say anything about a specific one person as the anti-christ.

In the bible, anti-christ actually means a person who is opposed to Christ Jesus. It is anyone who turns away from Christ, or anyone who denies the existence of Christ, or anyone who denies that Jesus was Gods Messiah. it also applies to anyone or any organization opposed to Christs Kingdom.



Where did you find the idea about the anti-christ being a specific person?
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One


Ah, i see.

Well Mohammad was quoting from the bible and I can tell you what some of those things mean.

"We are discussing about the Last Hour."
The 'last hour' meant the end of era of the apostles of Christ. The Apostle John was the last of the 12 apostles to be alive. He died right at the end of the 1st century, around 98CE. He said that the anti-christ was about to appear, because he knew that he would soon die and then there would be no apostles alive to refute the false teachings of anti-christs who would arise in the christian congregations.
1John 2:18 Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. "



"Thereupon he said: It will not come until you see ten signs"
Jesus gave a number of 'signs' for christians to know when Gods Kingdom had begun ruling in heaven. The anti-christ had appeared long before that time though, so Mohammad was not quite right in saying that the signs would appear before the anti-christ.
Matthew 24:3 While he (Jesus) was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” 4 And in answer Jesus said to them:
1. “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many.
2. YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars;
3. nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom
4 there will be food shortages
5 earthquakes in one place after another.
6“Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU,... on account of my name.
7Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another.
8. And many false prophets will arise and mislead many;
9. and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.
10 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.



"before and (in this connection) he made a mention of the smoke, Dajjal,"
I dont know about this, im not sure what Dajjal means??

" the beast,"
Revelation 13:1 
And it stood still upon the sand of the sea.
And I saw a wild beast ascending out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, and upon its horns ten diadems, but upon its heads blasphemous names. 2 Now the wild beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were as those of a bear, and its mouth was as a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave to [the beast] its power and its throne and great authority.
3 And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration.
The wild beast represents a world power, the political ruling power that would be the ruling power during Jesus presence in kingdom power. They are the current world super power right now.


"the rising of the sun from the west",
There are many bible verses that make mention of the 'rising of the sun' but never from the 'west'...the sun rises in the east, so i dont think he's speaking about the literal sun in the sky, is he??
Some bible verses he could be alluding to are as follows:

Revelation 16:12 And the sixth one poured out his bowl upon the great river Eu‧phra′tes, and its water was dried up, that the way might be prepared for the kings from the rising of the sun" this means kings coming from eastern parts


Malachi 1:11 “For from the sun’s rising even to its setting my name will be great among the nations, and in every place sacrificial smoke will be made, a presentation will be made to my name, even a clean gift; because my name will be great among the nations,” Jehovah of armies has said.
This is regarding the worship of Jehovah God among all the nations

Isaiah 41:25 “I have roused up [someone] from the north, and he will come. From the rising of the sun he will call upon my name
This is a prophecy about King Cyrus who freed Isreal from captivity to Babylon in the 5th century bce.

Psalm 50:1 The Divine One, God, Jehovah, has himself spoken,
And he proceeds to call the earth, From the rising of the sun until its setting



"the descent of Jesus son of Mary "
I think this may be alluding to the 2nd coming of Christ.
Matthew 24:30
And then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in lamentation, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds

1Thessalonians 4:15 For this is what we tell YOU by Jehovah’s word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep [in death]; 16 because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet
Chirsts presence is right now. We know this because the sign he gave (the 10 signs above that Mohammad also mentioned) are occuring simultaneously around the earth right now.

"The Gog and Magog",

This is from the books of Ezekiel and Revelation and it is the descriptive prophecy of how God will eventually destroy his enemies.
Revelation 20:7 Now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, Satan will be let loose out of his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Ma′gog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them. 10 And the Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet [already were]; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Gog and Magog represent all the earths united military/political powers who are influenced and controlled by Satan the Devil and who are in opposition to Gods authority. God will eventually destroy all these world powers so that his own Kingdom will rule the earth alone because only then can there be true peace and security. This will happen as the battle of Armageddon, it is Gods war to end wickedness forever.
 
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