Do people still believe everyone decended from Adam and Eve?

[Colt]

Name one substsntive " fact ' from Genesis that is not demonstrably false.
Not counting so vague as to be open to any chosen resding.

Egypt exists, some of the other localities mentioned in Gen. can be shown to exist.

 

[Audie]

Egypt exists, some of the other localities mentioned in Gen. can be shown to exist.

True. Likewise water and air.

Also true: the semantic games to which earlier mention
was made are still not amusing.

 

[Colt]

We are not amused by equivocation games.

Not attempting to amuse. Atheist dismiss possibilities without having all discoverable facts. There is an element of “faith” involved.

 

[Skywalker]

That’s just not true. 40 different techniques of radiometric dating corroborate each other.

Do you think it's possible that the earth is somewhere in between a young earth and an old earth?

 

[Skywalker]

a circle is not a sphere.
Your bookie also speaks of corners,
and heaven "above".

Your circle is far from a clear statement but
rather an example among so many that the Bible
can be read to say whatever you like.

So nowadays, circle= sphere, as flat earth is untenable.

Yet you go right on thinking flood and yec
despite those readings being as clearly obviously wrong as flat circle and heaven above. ( with windows)

The earth can be round and not be a sphere. Heaven above could exist for both a flat and a round earth.

 

[Colt]

Do you think it's possible that the earth is somewhere in between a young earth and an old earth?

If radioactive decay isn’t reliable then you don’t want to live anywhere near a nuclear power plant.

Between 4.5 billion and 6-12,000? No. Material facts are fairly uniform. Physics and math are uniform.
We can cross check meteorites that hit the earth. We scooped up some meteoric material from the moon when we were there which corroborated with impacts on earth etc. We can observe light traveling from deep space to measure distances. We can now see billions of galaxies.

 

[Skywalker]

If radioactive decay isn’t reliable then you don’t want to live anywhere near a nuclear power plant.

Between 4.5 billion and 6-12,000? No. Material facts are fairly uniform. Physics and math are uniform.
We can cross check meteorites that hit the earth. We scooped up some meteoric material from the moon when we were there which corroborated with impacts on earth etc. We can observe light traveling from deep space to measure distances. We can now see billions of galaxies.

Do you think seeing galaxies in the sky supports an old earth? I think the speed of light and the stars could easily support an old earth, but I don't have a strong feeling about that either way.

 

[Audie]

Not attempting to amuse. Atheist dismiss possibilities without having all discoverable facts. There is an element of “faith” involved.

Don't be disingenuous. That is not
amusing either.

Nor is the gratuitous slap at the intellectual honesty of all atheists.

"All discoverable facts " is impossible , and
SILLY. A theory only needs one contrary fact to
discredit it. One. Don't you know that?


If you really don't know what I mean saying nothing in Genesis is true, we may be so, ah, unevenly yoked as to make further talk
pointless.
Want to try again for something demonstrably true in the narrative, or shall we stop here.

 

[Skywalker]

No, as to the Earth floating in space, it does not say that. That is a reinterpretation. It also says that the Earth rests on pillars. You can't count the near hits if you ignore the clear misses.

Pillars of the earth doesn't mean the earth is floating on a turtle. Contradictions: Hanging on Pillars of Nothing?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Pillars of the earth doesn't mean the earth is floating on a turtle. Contradictions: Hanging on Pillars of Nothing?

A lying source again? That is worse than a Christian apologetics site, that is a site where one has to openly believe that God is a liar. Sorry, not good enough, try again.

 

[Audie]

The earth can be round and not be a sphere. Heaven above could exist for both a flat and a round earth.

Of course-free form interpretation.
Could mean oblate. Could be a rubics cute.

 

[halbhh]

Are there still people in the 21st century that believe all humans are descendents from Adam and Eve, only two people?

Wouldn't that mean that when they had children, to have more children,,,
-the dad/mom had to sleep with their son/daughter,,,
-brother/sisters slept together,,,
-aunts/uncles slept with nephews/nieces
-etc.

If not can some logically explain how they populated the earth without doing any of that?
By the way, all of that is forbidden in the bible

Leviticus 18:8-18
8 “Do not have sexual relations with any of your father’s wives, for this would violate your father.

9 “Do not have sexual relations with your sister or half sister, whether she is your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born into your household or someone else’s.

10 “Do not have sexual relations with your granddaughter, whether she is your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, for this would violate yourself.

11 “Do not have sexual relations with your stepsister, the daughter of any of your father’s wives, for she is your sister.

12 “Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister, for she is your father’s close relative.

13 “Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s close relative.

14 “Do not violate your uncle, your father’s brother, by having sexual relations with his wife, for she is your aunt.

15 “Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife, so you must not have sexual relations with her.

16 “Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife, for this would violate your brother.

17 “Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. And do not take her granddaughter, whether her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, and have sexual relations with her. They are close relatives, and this would be a wicked act.

18 “While your wife is living, do not marry her sister and have sexual relations with her, for they would be rivals.

First the littler thing (and then something rather more fun after the break below) : Did anyone point out that in chapter 4 (of Genesis) Lot left his nuclear family area, and went to another land, and took a wife there, from among those people?

It seems (one view, but one that fits all the text), that they were another people. In other words, it's like Adam and Eve were a special case, or put in a special situation. Perhaps Adam was the first human given a God breathed in 'spirit', and thus a 'soul' that could eventually be weighed on a day of accounting.
(this is to attempt to speak to those insisting to take it all as concrete events. It's a parable definitely whether concrete or not. Many do take it as only a parable, but that's not a trivial thing: a parable is a powerful story about the essential truth of life.)
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Whole different aspect, but there is an "Adam" and an "Eve" objectively --

Nature: Genetic Adam and Eve did not live too far apart in time

In the scientific view (the evidence based view).

 

[Skywalker]

Of course-free form interpretation.
Could mean oblate. Could be a rubics cute.

There's no evidence the earth is oblate or a rubics cube. What do you mean by free form?

 

[Audie]

The earth can be round and not be a sphere. Heaven above could exist for both a flat and a round earth.

The Bible says whatever you choose to interpret it as saying.

There is no clear statement about a sphere,
and several clearly contrary to " sphere ".

So just drop it, no case can be made.
It does nothing to disprove the Bible is true,
but it sure doesn't help.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There's no evidence the earth is oblate or a rubics cube. What do you mean by free form?

Oh my GAWD!!! I had to quote this before it went away.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course-free form interpretation.
Could mean oblate. Could be a rubics cute.

Could be both

EDIT: Even better:

 

[Audie]

There's no evidence the earth is oblate or a rubics cube. What do you mean by free form?

Free fotm means it says whatever you want.

You want black slavery to be ok? Easy peeve.

You want pi equals 3,0? Even easier.

40,000 Christian sects and all with different
One-Trumeaning.

 

[Audie]

Could be both

Rats.. outsmarted again.

 

[Colt]

Do you think seeing galaxies in the sky supports an old earth? I think the speed of light and the stars could easily support an old earth, but I don't have a strong feeling about that either way.

Certainly an old galaxy.

This is a comprehensive paper on radiometric dating from a Christian scientist. https://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/...s account in less scientifically literal ways.

 

[Skywalker]

Certainly an old galaxy.

This is a comprehensive paper on radiometric dating from a Christian scientist. https://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens2002.pdf#:~:text=Radiometric dating techniques indicate that the Earth is,the Genesis account in less scientifically literal ways.

Christianity doesn't mean believing in a young earth because the age of the earth is not important.