Do people still believe everyone decended from Adam and Eve?

[Sunstone]

Look up a good article on shark teeth, its really interesting.

Am I correct to assume that learning all
about sharks was a required course in
law school?


Just kidding
Thanks for the heads-up! I'll see if I
can find something on their teeth.

 

[Audie]

Am I correct to assume that learning all
about sharks was a required course in
law school?


Just kidding
Thanks for the heads-up! I'll see if I
can find something on their teeth.

Ha. Never thought of that.

No, it was zoology 401, comparative vertebrate anstomy

 

[Sunstone]

No, it was zoology 401, comparative vertebrate anstomy

I just realized I have always thought of sharks as
invertebrates because they lack bones -- but what a
silly, silly assumption. I guess I must find cartilage
confusing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I just realized I have always thought of sharks as
invertebrates because they lack bones -- but what a
silly, silly assumption. I guess I must find cartilage
confusing.

They lack ribs and many of the other bones that we have, but they do have a skull and even more important a back bone, aka vertebrae.

https://africafreak.com/do-sharks-h...e vertebrae.,vertebrates, just like us humans.

 

[Audie]

They lack ribs and many of the other bones that we have, but they do have a skull and even more important a back bone, aka vertebrae.

https://africafreak.com/do-sharks-have-bones#:~:text=Sharks do have vertebrae.,vertebrates, just like us humans.

Those details and others are why they are not fish.

 

[Thief]

words=sword

I got some threads around here about that

do your search buttons work better than mine?

 

[Love God]

I read ot and nt both, all the way through, twice.

If you quote passages, i wont read them, judt mentioning
tovsave you wasting time.

Stumbling blovk..the bible .lots of them. The psycho god for one.
The nonsense like everything in genesis.

I figure a person can rationalize and excuse and invent his oen version
until they are comfy with it, or as i did, figure its moldy gsrbage and
ignore it.

The resson for / role of death is pretty interesting,
as topic in biology.

Thsts where the "why" is.

Btw, a person living 900 years would neet itanium carbide terth.

But I asked you your understanding of why all people must die?
What it is that You believe.

I might point out that if one took Chinese in school and read the language book on Chinese ‘twice’, does that make one proficient in Chinese?

It appears that English may be your ‘second language’? How many years have you studied English?

If anyone wants understanding of any subject, study is required. I don’t care what subject it is.

Have you considered that maybe the bible verses are not for you only? I put them at the end because I understand that people argue from their emotions. How they ‘feel’ about the issue at hand.
I state my case first and then present the evidence. Just like a court of law.


So.

Looking forward to hearing your understanding of why we all must die?

Joy


“For the wages of sin is death; ...! [more ‘evidence’ to follow]”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Love God]

I got some threads around here about that

do your search buttons work better than mine?

I got some threads around here about that

do your search buttons work better than mine?

Umm... you are talking over my head. Lol.

I am not understanding the question?

I am from the ‘school of hard knocks’. I learn as I go!
I stumble across things by jumping in.
Heck. My smart phone is still smarter than I...
:0

Joy


“When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Colt]

But I asked you your understanding of why all people must die?
What it is that You believe.

I might point out that if one took Chinese in school and read the language book on Chinese ‘twice’, does that make one proficient in Chinese?

It appears that English may be your ‘second language’? How many years have you studied English?

If anyone wants understanding of any subject, study is required. I don’t care what subject it is.

Have you considered that maybe the bible verses are not for you only? I put them at the end because I understand that people argue from their emotions. How they ‘feel’ about the issue at hand.
I state my case first and then present the evidence. Just like a court of law.


So.

Looking forward to hearing your understanding of why we all must die?

Joy


“For the wages of sin is death; ...! ”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wages of sin is death” in context isn’t about all mankind, it’s about the individual who persists in the rejection of Gods will.
Adam and Eve specifically lost their immortality status, they lost the use of the tree of life.

Translation or death is normal for humans even if Eve and then Adam didn’t sin.

 

[Love God]

“Wages of sin is death” in context isn’t about all mankind, it’s about the individual who persists in the rejection if Gods will.
Adam and Eve specifically lost their immortality status, they lost the use of the tree of life.

Translation or death is normal fir humans even if Eve and then Adam didn’t sin.

Here is a thought:
When most unsaved people think of death they tend to think of it in terms of ‘finality’.

That dying from this life somehow ‘ends’ their entire existence.

Are you comfortable in the bible?
I am not asking if you believe the bible. Just if you know it for yourself?
I think you stated that one doesn’t really have to read the bible to ‘know’ Jesus.
While I agree with that up to a point, let’s look at it like this:

You meet the ‘love’ of your life and get married.
Now that you ‘know’ the ‘love’ of your life, you leave the spouse at home, and you go out and play tennis all day every day for the rest of your life. Ignoring the spouse...

How well do you think your ‘love’ will put up with that? Your spouse may stick around out of commitment, but the joy may be lost...

Most people are not familiar with the bible. My goal is to show what God says. I try extremely hard not to talk ‘over’ people. People do not like that at all.

Please help me understand in what it is you are doing?
I am not entirely clear. It would seem from your missives that you may be familiar with the bible and possibly saved?

We may be on the same page?

Joy


“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

By which also ye are saved,

if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,

how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Audie]

But I asked you your understanding of why all people must die?
What it is that You believe.

I might point out that if one took Chinese in school and read the language book on Chinese ‘twice’, does that make one proficient in Chinese?

It appears that English may be your ‘second language’? How many years have you studied English?

If anyone wants understanding of any subject, study is required. I don’t care what subject it is.

Have you considered that maybe the bible verses are not for you only? I put them at the end because I understand that people argue from their emotions. How they ‘feel’ about the issue at hand.
I state my case first and then present the evidence. Just like a court of law.


So.

Looking forward to hearing your understanding of why we all must die?

Joy


“For the wages of sin is death; ...! [more ‘evidence’ to follow]”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I make no claim of proficiency but I will make comments on my having read it..
-I know it way better than lo and many a nominal Christian
-if you can read a paragraph in Chinese I will say you are proficient
-with 40,000 sects all reading your Bible differently, claims to True reading are laughable.

The Bible myth about why people die is
ridiculous.

I can tediously explain to you the ways and
wherefore of lifespan as understood in
biology. You won't be interested or learn it
though.

If your interest is in specifically why I accept that
for its explanatory value- here it is. If I read something, think
it over and understand it, and it consistently matches
anything I later think or learn, then I go with it.
Provisiionally. (A way of thinking possibly alien to you)

Tell me, are you a biblical literalist
or more like a free form interpreter.

I am a big fan of evidence: facts, data.

Its why I don't believe much of anything in ye Bible.
If you want to present evidence for one
part of the Bible by quoting another, that
has zero evidentiary value concerning the
truth of any of it.

As a fan of facts. I compare Bible claims
against data, and the Bible does not do well.
For me-
It's only worth reading to understand what
is going on with Christians and their rather
weird and alien beliefs.

 

[Skywalker]

I make no claim of proficiency but I will make comments on my having read it..
-I know it way better than lo and many a nominal Christian
-if you can read a paragraph in Chinese I will say yiu are proficient
-with 40,000 sects all reading your Bible differently, claims to True reading are laughable.

The Bible myth about why people die is
ridiculous.

I can tediously explain to you the ways and
wherefore of lifespan as understood in
biology. You won't be interested or learn it
though.

Tell me, are you a biblical literalist
or more like a free form interpreter.

I am a big fan of evidence; facts, data.

Its why I don't believe much of anything in ye Bible.
If you want to present evidence for one
part of the Bible by quoting another, that
has zero evidentiary value concerning the truth of any of it.

As a fan of facts, rather, I compare Bible claims
against data, and the Bible does not do well.

It's only worth reading to understand what
is going on with Christians and their rather weird and alien beliefs.

Why do you think the belief that death is because of sin is ridiculous? That insinuates that the creation of humans depends on them eventually sinning.

 

[Colt]

Here is a thought:
When most unsaved people think of death they tend to think of it in terms of ‘finality’.

That dying from this life somehow ‘ends’ their entire existence.

Are you comfortable in the bible?
I am not asking if you believe the bible. Just if you know it for yourself?
I think you stated that one doesn’t really have to read the bible to ‘know’ Jesus.
While I agree with that up to a point, let’s look at it like this:

You meet the ‘love’ of your life and get married.
Now that you ‘know’ the ‘love’ of your life, you leave the spouse at home, and you go out and play tennis all day every day for the rest of your life. Ignoring the spouse...

How well do you think your ‘love’ will put up with that? Your spouse may stick around out of commitment, but the joy may be lost...

Most people are not familiar with the bible. My goal is to show what God says. I try extremely hard not to talk ‘over’ people. People do not like that at all.

Please help me understand in what it is you are doing?
I am not entirely clear. It would seem from your missives that you may be familiar with the bible and possibly saved?

We may be on the same page?

Joy


“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you,
which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

By which also ye are saved,

if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,

how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The concept of an original, inherited sin is debatable.

Genesis leaves more questions then answers based on the ancient fragments used to create the story.

 

[Audie]

Why do you think the belief that death is because of sin is ridiculous? That insinuates that the creation of humans depends on them eventually sinning.

Uh, no. First, please look up the meaning of
" insinuate".

Also, the connection you make is entirely
In your head.

The existence of death has zero (0) to do with
any myth in your bible.

 

[Skywalker]

The concept of an original, inherited sin is debatable.

Genesis leaves more questions then answers based on the ancient fragments used to create the story.

I don't think its unbiblical, because King David said that he was brought forth in iniquity.

 

[Skywalker]

Uh, no. First, please look up the meaning of
" insinuate".

Also, the connection you make is entirely
In your head.

The existence of death has zero (0) to do with
any myth in your bible.

If humans didn't sin and died because of normal aging, then the world would end eventually or God would change the laws of physics so there wouldn't be overpopulation.

 

[Colt]

I don't think its unbiblical, because King David said that he was brought forth in iniquity.

Scholars aren’t sure what David is referring to. He was lamenting his own adultery.

 

[Love God]

I make no claim of proficiency but I will make comments on my having read it..
-I know it way better than lo and many a nominal Christian
-if you can read a paragraph in Chinese I will say you are proficient
-with 40,000 sects all reading your Bible differently, claims to True reading are laughable.

The Bible myth about why people die is
ridiculous.

I can tediously explain to you the ways and
wherefore of lifespan as understood in
biology. You won't be interested or learn it
though.

If your interest is in specifically why I accept that
for its explanatory value- here it is. If I read something, think
it over and understand it, and it consistently matches
anything I later think or learn, then I go with it.
Provisiionally. (A way of thinking possibly alien to you)

Tell me, are you a biblical literalist
or more like a free form interpreter.

I am a big fan of evidence: facts, data.

Its why I don't believe much of anything in ye Bible.
If you want to present evidence for one
part of the Bible by quoting another, that
has zero evidentiary value concerning the
truth of any of it.

As a fan of facts. I compare Bible claims
against data, and the Bible does not do well.
For me-
It's only worth reading to understand what
is going on with Christians and their rather
weird and alien beliefs.

pro·vi·sion·al·ly
/prəˈviZH(ə)n(ə)lē/
Learn to pronounce

adverb

1. subject to further confirmation; for the time being.
   "the institute has provisionally approved the study"

If reading any book twice makes me proficient, I am the most proficient person in the world...
Is your point being, that if I know one paragraph of the Chinese language, I understand all about the Chinese language?
It would seem that that one paragraph must be a rather long paragraph indeed.

You state that you understand biologically why all must die, yet you offer nothing to show me why that is.
Biology does not satisfy the meaning or purpose of ‘being’. It just shows that we ‘are’.

Biology does not explain the source of anything of the spiritual side. It just cannot.
The fact of the matter is that man has always tried to do things apart from [a] God.

You state, as matter of fact, that there are ‘40,000 sects’ of Christians.

No matter what number you use, either one is right, or they all lie. Say there are one million sects. So what. The same equation applies.

All life boils down to is ‘absolute truth’. Who has it. Where can it be found. Who has control over it. And who can know it?

And thank you. I am an alien. I do not think as I once was taught. What the world says is truth is in direct opposition to what the bible says is truth.

the mere fact that you used the word ‘provisionally’ supports the idea of ‘study’.

One paragraph in any book does not make one proficient. Not now. Not ever.

I would propose to you this equation:

2+2=?

Now solve the equation without using the numbers.
That is what you ask me to do when you say prove the bible without using the bible.

Just saying.

Joy


“All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What is more important in life, knowing science? Or knowing and doing good?

 

[Colt]

If humans didn't sin and died because of normal aging, then the world would end eventually or God would change the laws of physics so there wouldn't be overpopulation.

At some point mankind will begin to regulate population growth.

 

[Audie]

If humans didn't sin and died because of normal aging, then the world would end eventually or God would change the laws of physics so there wouldn't be overpopulation.

State case and provide evidence do you?
Bible-"evidence" is not evidence.