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Do people still believe everyone decended from Adam and Eve?

Love God

Member
Terrif that you can look up a word.
Doing the kind of thinking it is about
is another thing entirely.

IF I gave you any parapraph to read,
in Chinese, and you read it easily, it would
show you are proficient on chinese. Simple.

I told you you why i wont take my time
to explain about death. If you are going to
make that into that i am faking and cannot, we are done.

"Purpose" and "meaning" is the
playground of theists and philosophers.

Science can explain why we die.
You are changing the subject.

Fact of the matter is everything is
apart from your mythical "god".

All sects lie. Of course. Kinda my
point. Anything describing a non existent god is a lie.
Where do you stand with your claims?

Of course you cannot "prove" the bible.
And of course it does match data
from other sources.
And of course i dont believe it.

As to your pointless last question,
plz dont randomly change subject or
introduce new one. Cease and desist, svp.


Well. Thank you for the ‘parlez’.

It was fun while it lasted.

Wishing you all the peace this world has to offer and much

Joy.


“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,

lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God,
should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord;

and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:3-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
No real "historical evidence" there. I would suggest that you look up the standards for that. What you have are only oral tradition that grew over a period of 40 years or more. And no, it does not fit together like a puzzle. Not even close. There are too many self contradictions in the Bible. One has to force the "pieces" to fit together.

The Bible fits together like a puzzle piece because it was written by 66 different authors who all had the same theme about seeking God, depending on God, trusting God and making God a part of one's life. As early as the book of Job, Job talked about the Messiah being a Mediator.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Well. Thank you for the ‘parlez’.

It was fun while it lasted.

Wishing you all the peace this world has to offer and much

Joy.


“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,

lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God,
should shine unto them.

For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord;

and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;
Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:3-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If you cant resist random changes of topic,
then this parting is well made.

I hope you will learn some self discipline.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Some of it matches known history, some does not.
i said SOME of it is impossible to confirm.
Egypt is real. Exodus is not.

And you say if its plainly phony its a
morality tale?

Like the whole part that starts with "in the beginning"?

Why bother with that turgid old book?

We teach morality in China as part of
our ordinary lives.

Terrif god- morality btw. "Do what i want or i will drown you."
What a guy, what an example!

The story of Exodus could teach people a lesson, even if some of the details aren't the most literal. Some Christians believe that Genesis supports an old earth. Genesis could be in alignment with an old earth belief system. There Are Major Theological and Scientific Problems With A Young Earth
 

Love God

Member
If you cant resist random changes of topic,
then this parting is well made.

I hope you will learn some self discipline.


Thank you for your advice.
Taken into consideration.

Still wishing you all the peace that this world has to offer and


Joy


“And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Thank you for your advice.
Taken into consideration.

Still wishing you all the peace that this world has to offer and


Joy


“And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭4:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

All i asked wss that you quit doing it
if you are responding to me.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
That is good news. Since most atheists lack a belief in a deity they cannot be deliberately disloyal. You may be the first theist that I have met that argues that atheists are sinless.
Sort of true, Atheist aren't necessarily sinful.

Sin is deliberate disloyalty to Deity. There are degrees of disloyalty:

the partial loyalty of indecision;
the divided loyalty of confliction;
the dying loyalty of indifference;
and the death of loyalty exhibited in devotion to godless ideals.
 
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Colt

Well-Known Member
That doesn't mean that it's impossible for people to have sin in their genes. The Virgin Birth: Jesus' Chromosomes and DNA?

Adam and Eve were not created on a physical heaven. Do you think the gospel of the kingdom subduing the earth is why there won't be the preaching of the gospel in the Millennium as much as earlier?
If sin is in a persons genes and they have no free will to choose right or wrong, then it would be unjust for a God to then condemn them for their unstoppable behavior. Jesus said "go and sin no more" which is proof that sin is a knowing choice.

Some Christian theology isn't very well thought out.

I don't believe in a 1000 year intermission before bringing back a Satan.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
If sin is in a persons genes and they have no free will to choose right or wrong, then it would be unjust for a God to then condemn them for their unstoppable behavior. Jesus said "go and sin no more" which is proof that sin is a knowing choice.

Some Christian theology isn't very well thought out.

I don't believe in a 1000 year intermission before bringing back a Satan.

Sin being in our genes is why just being in the human race makes us need a Savior. The Bible verse in Revelation about Satan and Gog and Magog consistent with Satan afflicting Job and God using that to build Job's character.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Why is Adam mentioned in the genealogy of Jesus? Even people who believe in the pre Adamic race believe that Adam was an ancestor of Jesus.
The "genealogies" appear to be made up and the two contradict each other. It appears that the two each made up their own story. And please do not bring up the failed "Mary's line" argument. Why believe all of the myths of the Bible?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The Bible fits together like a puzzle piece because it was written by 66 different authors who all had the same theme about seeking God, depending on God, trusting God and making God a part of one's life. As early as the book of Job, Job talked about the Messiah being a Mediator.
A puzzle does not have endless self contradictions. The following article only lists some of them:

Bible Inconsistencies - Bible Contradictions
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
The "genealogies" appear to be made up and the two contradict each other. It appears that the two each made up their own story. And please do not bring up the failed "Mary's line" argument. Why believe all of the myths of the Bible?

People having different opinions about if Adam and Eve were allegories, but that doesn't mean that the genealogies that trace Jesus back to Adam are self contradictions. Those verses do not make statements that are mutually exclusive regarding the ancestry of Christ.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No one is righteous means nobody is perfect. People who strived to seek God were called righteous. Its similar to nothing is certain but we need to drink water because it's certain we will be dehydrated if we don't drink water.
And what does that have to do with my post?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
People having different opinions about if Adam and Eve were allegories, but that doesn't mean that the genealogies that trace Jesus back to Adam are self contradictions. Those verses do not make statements that are mutually exclusive regarding the ancestry of Christ.
Since the genealogies are different it does mean that they contradict each other and since they are in the Bible they are self contradictions. You said it fit together like a puzzle. These two pieces block each other.

And did you forget about our conversation on the Ten Commandments. I was working on how the Tenth Commandment is a ban on cheeseburgers.
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
Since the genealogies are different it does mean that they contradict each other and since they are in the Bible they are self contradictions. You said it fit together like a puzzle. These two pieces block each other.

And did you forget about our conversation on the Ten Commandments. I was working on how the Tenth Commandment is a ban on cheeseburgers.

The tenth commandments is not where the Jewish law on mixing milk and meat is from-the halacha is where that law is from. Verses that people believe are Bible contradictions are not contradictions when you study the context more closely. Confusing the languages at Babel is different from people gossiping.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The tenth commandments is not where the Jewish law on mixing milk and meat is from-the halacha is where that law is from. Verses that people believe are Bible contradictions are not contradictions when you study the context more closely. Confusing the languages at Babel is different from people gossiping.
You are jumping ahead. You don't know that yet.

Let's forget about your failure with the endless self contradictions in the Bible for now. Let's concentrate on the Ten Commandments.

We had agreed that the Ten Commandments were in the Ark of the Covid, right?
 

Skywalker

Well-Known Member
You are jumping ahead. You don't know that yet.

Let's forget about your failure with the endless self contradictions in the Bible for now. Let's concentrate on the Ten Commandments.

We had agreed that the Ten Commandments were in the Ark of the Covid, right?

I believe that the Ten Commandments were on the Ark of the Covenant.
 
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