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Do Public Accommodations Laws Violate Free Speech and Free Exercise Rights?

Nous

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Come October, the Court will hear the appeal of Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, a case in which a wedding cake bakery, after refusing to serve a same-sex couple, was found to have violated Colorado's public accommodations provision that prohibits businesses to discriminate against customers on the basis of sexual orientation.

In July 2012, Charlie Craig and David Mullins were planning their wedding, and entered the Lakewood, Colorado, establishment Masterpiece Cakeshop to inquire about a wedding cake. Upon learning the cake would be for the wedding of these two men, owner Jack Phillips immediately refused them service, seeking no details of the design of the cake. Craig and Mullins subsequently filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Division (CCRD), alleging discrimination under Colorado's Anti-Discrimination Act (CADA), CRS § 24-34-601 of which states in relevant part:

2 (a) It is a discriminatory practice and unlawful for a person, directly or indirectly, to refuse, withhold from, or deny to an individual or a group, because of disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry, the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation . . .​

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After CCRD found probable cause of a violation, the state Attorney General filed a formal complaint with the Office of Administrative Courts, and the parties argued cross-motions for summary judgment before the Administrative Law Judge. The ALJ granted summary judgment to Craig and Mullins. Phillips appealed, whereupon the Colorado Civil Rights Commission (CRC) affirmed the ALJ's finding, and issued Phillips its final order to “cease and desist from discriminating against [Craig and Mullins] and other same-sex couples by refusing to sell them wedding cakes or any product [it] would sell to heterosexual couples.” Phillips appealed to the Colorado Court of Appeals (COA), which affirmed the finding of the Civil Rights Commission. The Colorado Supreme Court denied Phillips' request for review. Phillips filed a petition for writ of certiorari with the Supreme Court more than a year ago, but, despite it being presented in conference numerous times, the Court did not act on it until last week. The question the Court has agreed to answer is:

Whether applying Colorado's public accommodations law to compel Phillips to create expression that violates his sincerely held religious beliefs about marriage violates the Free Speech or Free Exercise Clauses of the First Amendment.​

https://www.supremecourt.gov/qp/16-00111qp.pdf

The First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech includes protection against compelled speech--the government cannot force a person to speak its message. This is the right of Free Speech that Phillips alleges CADA infringes. One of the earlier and more interesting cases regarding this right was Wooley v. Maynard (1977), instigated when George Maynard was repeatedly cited for violating the New Hampshire law against obscuring or defacing a license plate after he and his wife covered up the state's motto, “Live Free or Die,” a statement they found repugnant to their religious beliefs. The Supreme Court held that forcing the Maynards to be “couriers for ideological messages” and “mobile billboards” violated their right against compelled speech.

However, almost any government requirement can be construed as affecting speech or expressive activity, and the Court has not hesitated to corral the scope of this right. For instance, in Rumsfeld v. Forum for Academic and Institutional Rights, Inc. (2006), an association of law schools (FAIR) sought to enjoin enforcement of the Solomon Amendment, which requires universities that accept federal funds to allow military recruiters equal access to their campuses and students as allowed to recruiters for other employers; FAIR argued that the law compels the universities to host speech with which they disagreed (especially the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy) and violates their freedom of association. A unanimous Court held that this law is constitutional, that it “neither limits what law schools may say nor requires them to say anything. [. . . ] As a general matter, the Solomon Amendment regulates conduct, not speech. It affects what law schools must do -- afford equal access to military recruiters -- not what they may or may not say.” (Emphasis in original.) The Court further noted that even high school students are able to distinguish between “speech a school sponsors and speech the school permits because legally required to do so, pursuant to an equal access policy.”

The ALJ and Court of Appeals similarly found that Colorado's public accommodations law and the CRC's cease and desist order regulate conduct, not speech. In response to Phillips' contention “that wedding cakes inherently communicate a celebratory message about marriage and that, by forcing it to make cakes for same-sex weddings, the Commission’s cease and desist order unconstitutionally compels it to express a celebratory message about same-sex marriage that it does not support,” the Court of Appeals concluded that “to the extent that the public infers from a Masterpiece wedding cake a message celebrating same-sex marriage, that message is more likely to be attributed to the customer than to Masterpiece.”

Additionally, just as the Supreme Court assured the universities of their right to speak, the COA affirmed that CADA “does not preclude Masterpiece from expressing its views on same-sex marriage -- including its religious opposition to it -- and the bakery remains free to disassociate itself from its customers’ viewpoints. We recognize that section 24-34-601(2)(a) of CADA prohibits Masterpiece from displaying or disseminating a notice stating that it will refuse to provide its services based on a customer’s desire to engage in same-sex marriage or indicating that those engaging in same-sex marriage are unwelcome at the bakery.[11] However, CADA does not prevent Masterpiece from posting a disclaimer in the store or on the Internet indicating that the provision of its services does not constitute an endorsement or approval of conduct protected by CADA. Masterpiece could also post or otherwise disseminate a message indicating that CADA requires it not to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and other protected characteristics.”

Phillips' compelled expression argument unsurprisingly relies heavily on Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian & Bisexual Group of Boston (GLIB), a 1995 decision where the Court held that Massachusetts' public accommodations law did not require organizers of Boston's St. Patrick's Day parade to include a group which sought to impart a message the organizers did not wish to convey. The parallels between the two cases are, in fact, tenuous. The St. Patrick's Day parade was organized by a unincorporated group of private individuals called the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council, who had been elected from various veterans groups. In no other state would this group or the selection process for the parade marchers meet the definition of a “public accommodation”; Massachusetts' extraordinarily broad and overly specific yet vague public accommodations statute could be understood as including the parade in some sense. However, the lower courts were not in agreement on exactly what aspect of the parade qualified as a “public accommodation.” The Council denied any desire to exclude parade participants on the basis of sexual orientation, openly welcomed any LGB person who wished to march with one of the groups selected for the parade, and allegedly at least a couple of gay people marched with those groups. Thus it is difficult to argue that the Council's exclusion of GLIB from the parade was discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, as forbidden by the statute. The Court cited abundant factual descriptions and case law demonstrating that parades are inherently expressive activities protected by the First Amendment (e.g., the renown National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie), and consequently noted that applying the public accommodations law so as to require the Council to include GLIB “violates the fundamental rule of protection under the First Amendment, that a speaker has the autonomy to choose the content of his own message.” The Court's decision was unanimous, and I agree with it (though I think the Court should have clarified that the Council's selection process for parade marchers was not a public accommodation even under Massachusetts law). The holding doesn't much help Masterpiece Cakeshop. The COA opinion refers to Hurley only thrice, each time noting its irrelevancy to Masterpiece. Unlike the banner and message GLIB wished to display to the throngs of parade-watchers, applying CADA in the case of Masterpiece does not require that Phillips speak or host any words or message whatsoever.

The further and perhaps most decisive problem with Phillips' claim of compelled expressive activity is that he refused service to Craig and Mullins without even seeking to know what kind of wedding cake they desired. For all Phillips knew when he refused them service, they may have wanted a cake indistinguishable from one a different-sex couple might order. Phillips' refusal of service was not motivated by repulsion to any artistic expressive activity he was asked to perform.
 

Nous

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Phillips' Free Exercise claim is presumably made somewhat simpler by the fact that Colorado has no RFRA, and City of Boerne v. Flores establishes that the federal RFRA does not apply to states. Colorado's public accommodations law is unquestionably a valid and neutral law of general applicability (though Phillips makes confused claims otherwise), therefore the infamous Employment Division v. Smith controls, requiring only a rational relationship to a legitimate governmental interest in order for such a law to pass muster in a Free Exercise challenge. CADA is a valid law: the Court has consistently held that such public accommodations laws “are well within the State's usual power to enact when a legislature has reason to believe that a given group is the target of discrimination, and they do not, as a general matter, violate the First or Fourteenth Amendments.” Hurley. There is ample reason to believe that lesbian, gay and bisexual persons are the target of discrimination. CADA is a neutral law of general applicability: CADA does not single out any particular religion upon which to impose burdens; CADA doesn't reach beyond normal commercial services to regulate any religious practice or religiously motivated conduct while exempting the same when performed as a secular activity. Indeed, in § 24-34-601(1), CADA specifically exempts “places principally used for religious purposes,” indicating the legislature's intent to comply with the Free Exercise Clause. Such exemptions undermine the argument that the law is an attempt to suppress religious exercise.

On the other hand, if the case goes sideways and the Court decides, contrary to precedent, that CADA substantially burdens a religious exercise and must therefore pass strict scrutiny--where the state must show there is a compelling governmental interest in the challenged law, and the law is narrowly tailored and is the least restrictive means for achieving its purpose--it would seem that CADA should still survive. In the public accommodations cases, the Court has repeatedly affirmed that “eliminating discrimination and assuring its citizens equal access to publicly available goods and services . . . plainly serves compelling state interests of the highest order.” Roberts v. US Jaycees. In pertaining to only entities open to the public, and exempting “places principally used for religious purposes,” CADA is narrowly tailored; and it's difficult to imagine a less restrictive way to achieve the desired goal than outlawing discrimination in the offerings of public goods and services. CADA fulfills the demands of strict scrutiny stipulated in the case law.

Granted, some people adamantly disapprove of same-sex couples having equal marriage rights as different-sex have and exercising that right; such people often refer to this disapproval as motivated by their religion. Indeed, some people, such as Phillips, evidently consider it an exercise of their religion to discriminate against same-sex couples who are or plan to get married (I am unaware of any religious doctrine or scripture that requires adherents to discriminate in their business practices against same-sex couples--for some reason, business-owners who seek to do so are uninterested in discriminating against criminals or those who break their marriage vows). But business-owners in the South made the same claims in defense of their refusal to serve Africa Americans, in violation of the public accommodations provision the Civil Rights Act of 1964. As the COA quoted from the federal district court of South Carolina in Newman v. Piggie Park Enterprises:

Undoubtedly defendant . . . has a constitutional right to espouse the religious beliefs of his own choosing, however, he does not have the absolute right to exercise and practice such beliefs in utter disregard of the clear constitutional rights of other citizens. This Court refuses to lend credence or support to his position that he has a constitutional right to refuse to serve members of the Negro race in his business establishment upon the ground that to do so would violate his sacred religious beliefs.​

Newman v. Piggie Park Enterprises, Inc., 256 F. Supp. 941 (D.S.C. 1966)

So, are Jack Phillips' claims that the Colorado public accommodations law violates his Free Speech and Free Exercise rights truly different than those of the proprietors of Piggie Park Enterprise? Are there in fact speech and/or religious exercise rights that are violated when a business is compelled to bake and sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple but which are not violated by a business being compelled to serve African Americans in a restaurant? If so, in what Court decision can one find the upholding of such rights? What's the difference between prohibiting public accommodations to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation as opposed to race? What if an interacial couple walked into a wedding cake bakery and the disapproving owner claimed he had Free Speech and Free Exercise rights to refuse them service? Where is the precedent that champions such rights?
 
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columbus

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Upon learning the cake would be for the wedding of these two men, owner Jack Phillips immediately refused them service, seeking no details of the design of the cake.
I will be glad when people like Mr Phillips start claiming that all True Christians have always believed in marriage for everyone.

I expect it to be within a decade.
Tom
 

VioletVortex

Well-Known Member
I think that it should be illegal to refuse service to any customer unless there is a valid reason not to, or in another situation which I will get to layer. A valid reason could be something like a hardware store refusing to supply someone with something in an instance where they have responsible evidence that this could result in wrongdoing. Conversely, I do not think that a business should be held liable in this situation.

Another situation could be one where a private Nazi club or something wants to ban those of a certain race. In that instance, they should have to post clearly their discriminatory policies. This only applies to an official club, however. Also, if they are selling items, they should still have to sell to anyone.

Unless Chic-Fil-A want to rebrand themselves as a straight club, and post that they will not serve gays on their front window, then I think they should be required to serve gays as they do straights. I should ask how they can tell one's sexual orientation, though.
 

SomeRandom

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If the guy who refused a wedding cake (seriously how pathetically petty of him) to a gay couple also refused service to divorced people getting remarried or non virgins getting married then maybe he'd have a leg to stand on. Otherwise it looks like he threw a tantrum like a little brat told to share. If he clearly advertised this then fine.
 

Brickjectivity

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The parallels between the two cases are, in fact, tenuous. The St. Patrick's Day parade was organized by a unincorporated group of private individuals called the South Boston Allied War Veterans Council, who had been elected from various veterans groups. In no other state would this group or the selection process for the parade marchers meet the definition of a “public accommodation”; Massachusetts' extraordinarily broad and overly specific yet vague public accommodations statute could be understood as including the parade in some sense. However, the lower courts were not in agreement on exactly what aspect of the parade qualified as a “public accommodation.”
I think the legal system is showing its age. Its like a growing crystal structure. Precedents are crashing into precedents, but the search for justice requires rooting all decisions in previous ones. Courts always want to go by precedent, almost anything that seems remotely related to uphold the dignity of the courts. The memory and the depth of knowledge of past cases is getting ridiculous. Litigants must already rely heavily on computer databases and notes and already must have specialized help depending upon their areas of litigation. There are legal specialists of many kinds. Its possible to have a legal specialist who focuses on laws surrounding parades who will be taken seriously and consulted about parades. I think the dignity of the court is beginning to shrink the dignity of the commoner. I don't know what the solution to that is, but this case seems like a sign of the problem. The different sides can have positions about what the outcome of the case should be, but neither side seems to know where the law actually stands on the matter, not for years after the litigation starts!

The Court cited abundant factual descriptions and case law demonstrating that parades are inherently expressive activities protected by the First Amendment (e.g., the renown National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie), and consequently noted that applying the public accommodations law so as to require the Council to include GLIB “violates the fundamental rule of protection under the First Amendment, that a speaker has the autonomy to choose the content of his own message.” The Court's decision was unanimous, and I agree with it (though I think the Court should have clarified that the Council's selection process for parade marchers was not a public accommodation even under Massachusetts law). The holding doesn't much help Masterpiece Cakeshop.
Yes 'Abundant'. That is, we have a lot of wisdom to draw upon and not enough time to process it all. Its analogous to all of the books upon my shelf. I have them, so I think of it as having knowledge though its not. I simply own books. I could buy IBM Watson, have that read my books and ask it when I have a question. It still wouldn't be my own knowledge.

So, are Jack Phillips' claims that the Colorado public accommodations law violates his Free Speech and Free Exercise rights truly different than those of the proprietors of Piggie Park Enterprise? Are there in fact speech and/or religious exercise rights that are violated when a business is compelled to bake and sell a wedding cake to a same-sex couple but which are not violated by a business being compelled to serve African Americans in a restaurant? If so, in what Court decision can one find the upholding of such rights? What's the difference between prohibiting public accommodations to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation as opposed to race? What if an interacial couple walked into a wedding cake bakery and the disapproving owner claimed he had Free Speech and Free Exercise rights to refuse them service? Where is the precedent that champions such rights?
He's being a jerk. He lures in people who need a cake to made, and then he tells them they aren't good enough to be his customers. He owes them maybe 500$ in small claims court. This is about someone who is behaving like a jerk. He should have had a notice on his building that said "We make wedding cakes but not gay wedding cakes." In the instance then that too many wedding cake companies started putting this on their buildings the courts would have a clear path to step in and force a change. As it is now they've acted prematurely. The case is not clear enough to deserve so much attention. It is therefore overly complex, depending upon weak minutia and guesses.
 

Twilight Hue

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Get a gay bakery and refuse hetrosexual couple's and that should provide perspective to this one sided nonsense.

It's really not about religion as it is discrimination in guise of religious beliefs.
 

esmith

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How about the following policies? Do you have a problem with them


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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Get a gay bakery and refuse hetrosexual couple's and that should provide perspective to this one sided nonsense.

It's really not about religion as it is discrimination in guise of religious beliefs.
I wonder if a gay bakery owner could be required to bake a cake with an anti-gay message?
Could a Jewish bakery owner be forced to make a Nazi wedding cake?
So far, the iconic legal cases have been those favoring progressive values.
The meat of the matter will be in protecting offensive speech...offensive to us progressives.
Interesting times await us.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I wonder if a gay bakery owner could be required to bake a cake with an anti-gay message?
Could a Jewish bakery owner be forced to make a Nazi wedding cake?
So far, the iconic legal cases have been those favoring progressive values.
The meat of the matter will be in protecting offensive speech...offensive to us progressives.
Interesting times await us.
I think there's a difference between making a gay wedding cake and making a wedding cake for gay people. If the wedding cake is indistinguishable from a wedding cake for straight people, then the bakery owner is merely discriminating against people he will sell to. It has nothing to do with speech.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I say let them turn away who they want, with the caveat that it must be clearly displayed and presented. Let the market determine whether they will be able to stay in business or not. I expect, most of the time, these places would lose far more business than they gained if everyone knew their discrimination policies up front.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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I think there's a difference between making a gay wedding cake and making a wedding cake for gay people. If the wedding cake is indistinguishable from a wedding cake for straight people, then the bakery owner is merely discriminating against people he will sell to. It has nothing to do with speech.
I agree.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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It's really not about religion as it is discrimination in guise of religious beliefs.

This right here.

He is constitutionally protected to practice his religion, but not to force it on others.

Personally I'd like to see him sued out of business because I'm tired of these "Christians" (who are anything but) whining they are being persecuted when they can't get their way. It has nothing to do with religion. It's a control issue.

Short of suing him into oblivion the next best thing would be a scathing review on Yelp and plastering flyers all over town against his business practices.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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This right here.

He is constitutionally protected to practice his religion, but not to force it on others.

Personally I'd like to see him sued out of business because I'm tired of these "Christians" (who are anything but) whining they are being persecuted when they can't get their way. It has nothing to do with religion. It's a control issue.

Short of suing him into oblivion the next best thing would be a scathing review on Yelp and plastering flyers all over town against his business practices.
I'd be with you, but I have one condition.....
Open season on the lawyers (rimfire or centerfire).
 

Brickjectivity

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I wonder if a gay bakery owner could be required to bake a cake with an anti-gay message?
Could a Jewish bakery owner be forced to make a Nazi wedding cake?
So far, the iconic legal cases have been those favoring progressive values.
The meat of the matter will be in protecting offensive speech...offensive to us progressives.
Interesting times await us.
Without a posted notice, they automatically imply that they serve all comers. Let them state exclusions in their advertising. Then we don't have to guess about whether they just don't like an individual or what.
 

Jainarayan

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I think there's a difference between making a gay wedding cake and making a wedding cake for gay people. If the wedding cake is indistinguishable from a wedding cake for straight people, then the bakery owner is merely discriminating against people he will sell to. It has nothing to do with speech.

I don't know if it's possible to make them indistinguishable. Most wedding cakes have a cake topper with a bride and groom. We have one with two grooms. Or there's a message: Congratulations Mary & John (or Rick & Jimmy, or Susan & Denise).
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
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I'd be with you, but I have one condition.....
Open season on the lawyers (rimfire or centerfire).

Lawyers are a necessary evil, unfortunately.

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare, Henry VI, Part2, Act IV.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Without a posted notice, they automatically imply that they serve all comers. Let them state exclusions in their advertising. Then we don't have to guess about whether they just don't like an individual or what.
The law doesn't allow for notice of excluding protected groups.
Even such notice would be a potential violation.
 
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