Do Religious Ideologies Encourage Timid, In-the-Box Thinking?

[crossfire]

Do religious ideologies encourage timid, in-the-box thinking?

I follow at least 3 (or more) religions, and have never been accused of thinking timidly inside the box. I would even go so far to say that some religious ideologies go beyond thinking outside of the box and encourages one to become totally unhinged from reality.

Are religious ideologies compatible with spiritual growth?

Yes

 

[SalixIncendium]

No.

Yes.

No comments - these strike me as absurdly rhetorical questions.

Such definitively conclusive answers that offer no rationale come from either one who has mastered their own reality or or one who is comfortable in their own ignorance.

 

[SalixIncendium]

A religious ideology, taken too strictly and dogmatically, can encourage in-the-box thinking, yes. I think that's essentially what fundamentalism is. Fortunately, all religions/religious ideologies are not fundamentalist.

What if a religious ideology that promotes out-of-the-box thinking was taken too strictly or dogmatically? Does that encourage in-the-box-thinking?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Isn't "spirit" in general regarded as supernatural?

Not even a little bit, in my view.

 

[Hellbound Serpiente]

What if a religious ideology that promotes out-of-the-box thinking was taken too strictly or dogmatically? Does that encourage in-the-box-thinking?

This is exactly what I feel happened with Islam. Thus, Radical Islam, Wahhabi/Salafi and other dogmatic, extreme versions of Islam were born due to ignorance and arrogance of certain individuals.

Islam, in it's purity, is devoid of in-the-box thinking.

 

[Kenny]

Do religious ideologies encourage timid, in-the-box thinking?

Are religious ideologies compatible with spiritual growth?

To be sure, you could ask the same two questions of any and all ideologies -- either religious or secular -- but I'll stick to religious ideologies here. For the purposes of this thread, an ideology is an intellectual frame or lens through which a person might see or interpret something. 'Spirituality' is however you want to define it. Please let us know what you mean by the term if you are using it in an unconventional manner.

Comments?

In my experience, asking questions is encouraged - but it just depends on individual cases. Mary asked "how can this be so" in her miracle baby and was not timid and an out-of-the-box thinker. Zachariah ask "How can this be so" in his miracle baby but was "in-th-box" of impossibilities and was timid.

 

[syo]

Do religious ideologies encourage timid, in-the-box thinking?

The proper question is Do religious ideologies encourage thinking?

The human brain is a giant chemical poison.

Ancient Egyptians portrayed the Gods with animal heads, because the human head has inside a poison human brain. When they created mummies, they removed the poison brain and destroyed it.

Thinking is done from the poison brain so thinking is poison.

Religions simply say that humans are the only mammal poison.

EDIT
POISON=a Chemical mix. That pollutes.

 

[Brent Mcnealy]

Can following a path that leads to a beautiful city be considered as in the box thinking?

 

[Quintessence]

Such definitively conclusive answers that offer no rationale come from...

... one who finds the questions poorly framed.

Better framing: "in what ways do specific religious ideologies encourage and/or discourage ..." and "which specific ideologies or ideas within religions encourage and/or discourage these things?" With bonus question "what makes an ideology 'religious' in the first place?"

 

[SalixIncendium]

... one who finds the questions poorly framed.

Better framing: "in what ways do specific religious ideologies encourage and/or discourage ..." and "which specific ideologies or ideas within religions encourage and/or discourage these things?" With bonus question "what makes an ideology 'religious' in the first place?"

I'll make a note that you find only questions that are framed to your liking to not be considered by you to be absurdly rhetorical, worthy of elaboration, or rude.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Can following a path that leads to a beautiful city be considered as in the box thinking?

So I see you've been to Cleveland.

 

[PureX]

Not necessarily, just because it's a conceptual box, doesn't necessarily mean that it prohibits us to embrace other such boxes and their structure.

Mostly, it does. Ideologies are an automatic bias in favor of some truth paradigm.

I'm not sure how it would be possible, however, for the human mind to operate without them.

 

[Vinayaka]

Do religious ideologies encourage timid, in-the-box thinking?

Some do. Some don't. Ideologies vary. I think exclusive ones would clearly keep people 'in-the-box'. But then one also has to consider the nature of said box. It can be box filled with hate, or a box filled with love.

 

[Nakosis]

Do religious ideologies encourage timid, in-the-box thinking?

Are religious ideologies compatible with spiritual growth?

To be sure, you could ask the same two questions of any and all ideologies -- either religious or secular -- but I'll stick to religious ideologies here. For the purposes of this thread, an ideology is an intellectual frame or lens through which a person might see or interpret something. 'Spirituality' is however you want to define it. Please let us know what you mean by the term if you are using it in an unconventional manner.

Comments?

In my experience with religions, I always ran into contrived constraints which caused me to leave that religion looking for another.

I suspect personality has a lot to do with it. Some seem to prefer constraints. Maybe for some, they need the constraints to support their spiritual growth.

 

[The Hammer]

When we are guided by what is acceptable thought we are thinking logically. In the box thinking has an identifying characteristic that it is guided by very logical thinking. I don't mean that logic is bad but that it is a trap, and very often that is why religion can become a trap. When it becomes a logical system people stop looking at it creatively. They stop looking at it as part of a larger context and that context as part of a still larger context and so on. There is always a larger context, and looking for it is one way out of the logical trap. Then nothing is a trap.

Systems within systems within systems.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Do religious ideologies encourage timid, in-the-box thinking?

Are religious ideologies compatible with spiritual growth?

To be sure, you could ask the same two questions of any and all ideologies -- either religious or secular -- but I'll stick to religious ideologies here. For the purposes of this thread, an ideology is an intellectual frame or lens through which a person might see or interpret something. 'Spirituality' is however you want to define it. Please let us know what you mean by the term if you are using it in an unconventional manner.

Comments?

Since man was universally religious before the enlightenment, and even after that time, what say you about man's countless achievements?

 

[Clara Tea]

"Timid" is not the right word. "Fanatical" might be. "Scared to death" might also be.

I was on a bus with a heavy set elderly woman who was fanatically religious who insisted that everyone she encountered must believe exactly as she does (under threat of physical violence).

She used to believe in Reverend Robert Schuller because of his high cheekbone grin. But, she said that Schuller used to beat his volunteers if they didn't meet his full expectations, and said that he was preaching Satan's words.

I tried disagreeing with this woman on the bus, but I literally feared for my life.

She went on and on about how she had been volunteering at the Crystal Cathedral, in Orange County, California, for years, and noticed squirrely tax and business practices, as well. She even went as far as to comment on the then recent physical attack that Reverend Schuller made on an airline stewardess who was trying to deal with Reverend Schuller's blue robes (it made the newspapers, but Schuller blamed the stewardess).

I got the sense that she gave her heart and soul to a man whom she had thought to be religious, and was so badly hurt by realizing that he was a bad man that she went crazy.

Many theists are scared to death of their God. They fear eternal damnation (burning in the fires of hell for all eternity), etc.

They are so scared not to blaspheme God that they even fear pronouncing the name of the one whom they worship....calling him G-d rather than God.

Such fear can only come from Satan. For only Satan would be so cruel as to frighten someone so.

 

[Quintessence]

I'll make a note that you find only questions that are framed to your liking to not be considered by you to be absurdly rhetorical, worthy of elaboration, or rude.

Why? What's with all the character judgements and assumptions? I mean, if you hate me you hate me - whatever - but geebus! I'm getting a very distinct sense you have some axe to grind with me for some reason.

 

[Left Coast]

What if a religious ideology that promotes out-of-the-box thinking was taken too strictly or dogmatically? Does that encourage in-the-box-thinking?

I don't know. What do you think?

 

[SalixIncendium]

I don't know. What do you think?

I think at 55 mph, a vehicle covers 150 to 160 feet per second, and that I should drive around curves at 5 mph under the posted speed limit because the posted speed limit is intended for cars, but that's only because I've been watching these freaking training videos most of the day.