Do the Axis Powers Have a Moral Obligation to Attack the US?

[Estro Felino]

Btw there are more American soldiers than Italian ones here...I didn't understand who should attack whom...

 

[MNoBody]

As for Italia and Deutschland, we are de facto US military colonies since 1945 so the US cannot declare war on themselves....

let's see, war on poverty, war on drugs, war on the homeless, war against the indigenous, etc......seems the US is pretty consistent in their endless war on the people who are all deemed as the unincarcerated [and terrorists] by the judiciary.....hmmm what to make of that?

 

[Estro Felino]

let's see, war on poverty, war on drugs, war on the homeless, war against the indigenous, etc......seems the US is pretty consistent in their endless war on the people who are all deemed as the unincarcerated [and terrorists] by the judiciary.....hmmm what to make of that?

Ok...but speaking of the thread topic...any US President is ok to me...as long as he preserves the peace of the Mediterranean area.

 

[The Hammer]

As for Italia and Deutschland, we are de facto US military colonies since 1945 so the US cannot declare war on themselves....

Same with Japan. The Japanese aren't even allowed to have a standing military, for as long as we are in a treaty with them. They have a "Self Defense Force" to protect their interest; the rest of their military might comes from our stationed troops.

Edit: Under Article 9 of the 1947 constitution, which was written by Prime Minister Kijūrō Shidehara under the supervision of the SCAP[19], Japan forever renounces war as an instrument for settling international disputes and declared that Japan will never again maintain "land, sea, or air forces or another war potential."
Japan Self-Defense Forces - Wikipedia

 

[oldbadger]

In the hypothetical situation that seems more and more probable that Donald Trump loses the election and refuses to step down, do Germany, Italy and Japan have the moral obligation to restore democracy in the US? After all, that is what the US helped to do to us and pretended to do in other countries all over the world.

No.

Just....... No.

 

[Nakosis]

In the hypothetical situation that seems more and more probable that Donald Trump loses the election and refuses to step down, do Germany, Italy and Japan have the moral obligation to restore democracy in the US? After all, that is what the US helped to do to us and pretended to do in other countries all over the world.

No, no more than I think the US should be the protector of democracy for the rest of the world. I'd rather the US stay out of other country's internal affairs and vice versa.

 

[Revoltingest]

The question, though, is who the "we" in question would be.

Ameristan.
But this "we" wouldn't personally include me.
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
And I'm not even a lover.
I guess you could say I'm a conscientious objector of everything.

 

[Revoltingest]

Remember that they're not our usual 3rd world foes with poor training and antiquated soviet hand-me-downs.

That's why they'd be so easy to defeat.
And we'd be on home territory.
I doubt they could survive without bidets & traffic circles everywhere.

 

[Heyo]

That's why they'd be so easy to defeat.
And we'd be on home territory.
I doubt they could survive without bidets & traffic circles everywhere.

Those are minor problems (OK, maybe not for the French) but we need a working field bakery with a supply of different sorts of flour and, most important, a constant supply of drinkable beer.

 

[exchemist]

Ameristan.
But this "we" wouldn't personally include me.
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
And I'm not even a lover.
I guess you could say I'm a conscientious objector of everything.

Well, I'm pleased to see Mitch McConnell has tried to inject a modicum of sense into things, at least. I just hope they don't play silly buggers with interminable legal challenges to the result.

 

[Stevicus]

Btw there are more American soldiers than Italian ones here...I didn't understand who should attack whom...

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Well, if things really get that bad in the U.S., then I'd imagine they'd have to withdraw most of our overseas forces to deal with problems closer to home.

 

[Stevicus]

Those are minor problems (OK, maybe not for the French) but we need a working field bakery with a supply of different sorts of flour and, most important, a constant supply of drinkable beer.

In my neck of the woods, just finding water would be difficult. You'd need to resurrect General Rommel, the Desert Fox, since he knew how to fight in the desert.

 

[Revoltingest]

Those are minor problems (OK, maybe not for the French) but we need a working field bakery with a supply of different sorts of flour and, most important, a constant supply of drinkable beer.

Uh oh....we have those.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, if things really get that bad in the U.S., then I'd imagine they'd have to withdraw most of our overseas forces to deal with problems closer to home.

We are speaking of hypothethical situations...btw.
In reality ...with all the turmoils in the Middle East...we should have more US/NATO bases...not less.
One feels safer.

 

[Heyo]

We are speaking of hypothethical situations...btw.
In reality ...with all the turmoils in the Middle East...we should have more US/NATO bases...not less.
One feels safer.

I don't feel safer near aggressive powers led by simple minded people. I have cheered the reduction of US troops in Germany and I'd like them all gone.

 

[Estro Felino]

I don't feel safer near aggressive powers led by simple minded people. I have cheered the reduction of US troops in Germany and I'd like them all gone.

In fact Germany is in a privileged geographical position.

 

[Heyo]

In fact Germany is in a privileged geographical position.

Yep. But that has not always been the case. (Well the geographical position has always been favourable, but the geopolitical position has changed a lot.)

 

[Estro Felino]

Yep. But that has not always been the case. (Well the geographical position has always been favourable, but the geopolitical position has changed a lot.)

Yes, indeed... when the Americans liberated us, they promised us they would always protect us and defend us.

 

[Stevicus]

We are speaking of hypothethical situations...btw.
In reality ...with all the turmoils in the Middle East...we should have more US/NATO bases...not less.
One feels safer.

Maybe, although I don't know if any Middle Eastern country or faction has the wherewithal to launch an invasion of Italy or any other country in Europe. Those forces were put there in the first place to defend against a hypothetical Soviet invasion, but there's no chance of that ever happening.

 

[Tambourine]

Yes, indeed... when the Americans liberated us, they promised us they would always protect us and defend us.

And they did! They even funded fascist underground terrorist cells in case the communists ever took over.

Operation Gladio - Wikipedia