Do we still need religion?

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If you reject scientific research then I have nothing to say to you.

You have scientific research? Please share it.

AFAICT, the only research (poor-quality, IMO, but research) in this thread was posted by me and the conclusions contradict what you're saying.

Edit: you've made representations about research, but rejecting that and rejecting actual scientific research aren't the same thing.

 

[Audie]

You have scientific research? Please share it.

AFAICT, the only research (poor-quality, IMO, but research) in this thread was posted by me and the conclusions contradict what you're saying.

Edit: you've made representations about research, but rejecting that and rejecting actual scientific research aren't the same thing.

The ahove

 

[firedragon]

If a person is religious, perhaps he or she could please keep his or her beliefs personal and private, nobody needs to share his or her religious convictions.

I think you should read the name of this forum.

 

[1213]

We don't know why. We only know that there is a correlation between being actively involved in a religious community and people being happier, healthier, longer lived, and having a buffer against anxiety and depression. This correlation does not exist for social groups that are not religious in nature.

If the correlation is not in other groups, then I think it is really the teachings and the hope that comes from the teachings that causes the change. And if so, then it would be enough to have the teachings, not necessarily the religious group that is only a result of that there is group of people that think the same way.

 

[Audie]

If the correlation is not in other groups, then I think it is really the teachings and the hope that comes from the teachings that causes the change. And if so, then it would be enough to have the teachings, not necessarily the religious group that is only a result of that there is group of people that think the same way.

The " religious" part is false.
Instead of thinking " if " or believing assertions from internet strangers, look it up.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

If the correlation is not in other groups, then I think it is really the teachings and the hope that comes from the teachings that causes the change. And if so, then it would be enough to have the teachings, not necessarily the religious group that is only a result of that there is group of people that think the same way.

That could be, but we have not scientifically documented that. At this point, scientifically, we don't know why being involved in religious communities is so helpful to people.

 

[Audie]

That could be, but we have not scientifically documented that. At this point, scientifically, we don't know why being involved in religious communities is so helpful to people.

Still talking " religious " communities
as if they are special.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That could be, but we have not scientifically documented that. At this point, scientifically, we don't know why being involved in religious communities is so helpful to people.

The author of the article you quoted in the OP thinks he knows.

 

[Audie]

The author of the article you quoted in the OP thinks he knows.

All show no knows.

 

[Suave]

I think you should read the name of this forum.

I like the political or current event sections of RF. I also like discussing simulation theory. However, I have no idea who or what controls our. possibly simulated universe

 

[stanberger]

The big idea: do we still need religion?

"There are at least two reasons, however, why religions persist. One is the fact that, on average, religious people are generally happier, healthier and live longer. For better or for worse, they also have easier deaths when the time comes. The other is that religious people are more likely to feel that they belong to a community. In a survey I ran, those who reported attending religious services were depressed less frequently, felt their lives were more worthwhile, were more engaged with their local community, and felt greater trust towards others. These enormous benefits mean not only that religion has enduring appeal, but that religious practices make you “fit” in the evolutionary sense – and thus they tend to stick around."

 

[stanberger]

The big idea: do we still need religion?

"There are at least two reasons, however, why religions persist. One is the fact that, on average, religious people are generally happier, healthier and live longer. For better or for worse, they also have easier deaths when the time comes. The other is that religious people are more likely to feel that they belong to a community. In a survey I ran, those who reported attending religious services were depressed less frequently, felt their lives were more worthwhile, were more engaged with their local community, and felt greater trust towards others. These enormous benefits mean not only that religion has enduring appeal, but that religious practices make you “fit” in the evolutionary sense – and thus they tend to stick around."

 

[stanberger]

god was removed in west with the 60's sexual revolution proponents argued you can still be moral with out god/religion. 60 yrs later 54 million Americans are on food stamps most headed by single moms. baby mamas and baby daddies are increasing. mothers killed 55 million babies in u s alone ...25k gun murders in us per yr. thats 550k murdered Americans since 9/11 men marry men. and kids want to transgender. any questions

 

[firedragon]

I like the political or current event sections of RF. I also like discussing simulation theory. However, I have no idea who or what controls our. possibly simulated universe

Great.

 

[Audie]

What is it with people to use the word "we", imposing their view on all humans?".

This implies disrespect, and belittling others' opinions, as well as arrogance and prone to grandiosity (and lack of humbleness).

To claim to know what is best for 8 billion people = claim to be "kind of omniscient and omnipresent"...quite a claim

We only use it in a Royal sort of way.

 

[stvdv]

We only use it in a Royal sort of way.

Aha, thanks. If so then okay of course

 

[IndigoChild5559]

The author of the article you quoted in the OP thinks he knows.

and his opinion is interesting reading, but is only opinion.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

and his opinion is interesting reading, but is only opinion.

If you don't give his opinion weight, why did you open the thread by quoting him?

 

[syo]

The big idea: do we still need religion?

"There are at least two reasons, however, why religions persist. One is the fact that, on average, religious people are generally happier, healthier and live longer. For better or for worse, they also have easier deaths when the time comes. The other is that religious people are more likely to feel that they belong to a community. In a survey I ran, those who reported attending religious services were depressed less frequently, felt their lives were more worthwhile, were more engaged with their local community, and felt greater trust towards others. These enormous benefits mean not only that religion has enduring appeal, but that religious practices make you “fit” in the evolutionary sense – and thus they tend to stick around."

Yup. Good rituals!

 

[IndigoChild5559]

If you don't give his opinion weight, why did you open the thread by quoting him?

because it was an interesting article that referenced a valuable study and that suggested ideas worth discussing. But there is a difference between the facts revealed by the study, and his attempt to give them explanation. Surely you are not suggesting the two are on the same level.