Do you accept all the teachings of the Church to which you belong ?

[michel]

This emanated from a thread of Jeffrey's, in which I think he was hinting at the fact that there are certain aspects of his new-found faith he is not happy with...........

Anyway, the basis of this polled thread is "Do you accept all the teachings of the Church to which you belong ?",or are there 'bits' you don't quite think are right, but you can cope with those differences?

At what stage would it become impossible to keep calling yourself "a whatever I am " ?


Of course, I am the "I can never find a religion..................."

 

[Green Gaia]

I voted: Yes, I can honestly say I am 100% in accord, the other choices just didn't fit me at all. To be truthful it's more like 95% I agree with - but that's OK in UU, we are expected to have our own opinions and ideas. The other 5% I can try to change.

 

[anders]

I'm unique. So,

I can never find a Religion with which I have enough in common to be happy

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But philosophical Daoism (is that a religion?), Sikhism and Buddhism are fairly close.

 

[jeffrey]

Thank you. Michel! And like you, I cannot find one that fits my beliefs 100%. I still believe that God wants me in the R.C., but I know he wants me to be my own person. I have never been one to let other's do my thinking for me. I will listen to a church, but if I disagree with something, I'm not afraid to say so.

 

[James the Persian]

Thank you. Michel! And like you, I cannot find one that fits my beliefs 100%. I still believe that God wants me in the R.C., but I know he wants me to be my own person. I have never been one to let other's do my thinking for me. I will listen to a church, but if I disagree with something, I'm not afraid to say so.

I agree with you (apart from the RC thing, of course!) but I can honestly say that, as yet, I have not come across any Orthodox teachings that I cannot agree with. There are certain areas on which we can accept one of several beliefs (known as theologoumena) where I am a little different than some of my co-religionists (though the same as some others) but in core doctrines I agree 100%.

James

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Do you accept all the teachings of the Church to which you belong ?

I accept the confessions of the Church. I accept the teachings that support the confessions and compliment the traditions of the Church.

 

[dawny0826]

Yes...I truly can. It's all about the Bible...Praise and Worship...no strings attached...(no hidden fees)

 

[michel]

I must admit to being surprized about the polarized results; there seems to be no "in betweens" , although it could be that some of you answering 'I accept the whole bundle' are making some allowances.

For example, Christianity: cannot accept the homosexual act - it is a sin, therefore, even if I was happy to 'fit in' with Christianity, I still wouldn't be able to say "All the way".........does that make more sense ?

 

[Fluffy]

Well my religion is tailored to fit me so... I'd say I fit it exactly .

 

[michel]

Well my religion is tailored to fit me so... I'd say I fit it exactly .

you cheated!!!

 

[Mike182]

Well my religion is tailored to fit me so... I'd say I fit it exactly .

this is indeed true of my religion, but the church i go to, i disagree with on a few issues, but no to the extent of heated debate, more, civilised discussion

 

[Evenstar]

No... I repeat No church will ever meet with beliefs.

So I ticked the last choice​

I believe also we were all given a mind to use, and I want my mind to be open to many religions/beliefs.

 

[Quiddity]

Do I agree with my Church 100%? Yes. But for many people this may be mere coincidence. Once they find something they disagree with they will depart or stay in the walls of the Church and rebel. That's why being in the Catholic Church isn't about how much you agree with it, but do you have faith in the Church? That is very difficult for many people because things have been reduced down to voluntary groups, where people band together because they agree together. It's just a matter of finding which Church you agree with the most. Faith is an act of submission to whatever God proclaims despite the fact that we can never know these things through reason [like the Eucharist for Catholics] or through the senses; we believe them by faith. For me it's about having faith first and then coming to understand in my walk of life. I can spend eternity jumping around from one group to another, disagreeing, agreeing, in hopes of finding unity. Little do I know that this is not a solution. Perhaps if people saw that God is only trying to form a family of Love that is like Him [in regards to morality], they would be more prone to falling in love.

~Victor

 

[Valjean]

Well, I don't really have a church, but I'd say that anyone who completely "agrees with" Hinduism either has a very limited comprehension of it -- or is completely mad!

 

[Popeyesays]

This emanated from a thread of Jeffrey's, in which I think he was hinting at the fact that there are certain aspects of his new-found faith he is not happy with...........

Anyway, the basis of this polled thread is "Do you accept all the teachings of the Church to which you belong ?",or are there 'bits' you don't quite think are right, but you can cope with those differences?

At what stage would it become impossible to keep calling yourself "a whatever I am " ?


Of course, I am the "I can never find a religion..................."

I had to take the 100% choice. There have been some misunderstandings on my part in the past, but I work hard to understand, and so far I have hit no skids. There are few absolute laws in my faith, most of the beliefs are based on my own interpretation of them rather than someone else's, and there is no clergy to tell me what I must believe, so I'm comfortable.

Regards,
Scott

 

[Feathers in Hair]

There are some ideas in some pagan traditions that I disagree with, but I'm not a participant in those, so I picked the first one. Since so much of paganism is solitary, I'd pretty much be disagreeing with something I'd decided myself. (Unfortunately, with the way my mind works, that's not always such an uncommon occurance.)

 

[Engyo]

My particular school of Buddhism is a "big tent" sort of group; there is room for quite a bit of doctrinal variation. There are few absolutes; I have no problem with those particular issues. The rest is variable; if one is uncomfortable with a certain ministers' or congregations' take on an issue, one can move to another which has a somewhat different viewpoint.

In general this doesn't come up much; there doesn't seem to be any penalty for disagreeing with one's minister on a point here or there, and I don't know anyone who has actually availed themselves of this option.

 

[michel]

There are some ideas in some pagan traditions that I disagree with, but I'm not a participant in those, so I picked the first one. Since so much of paganism is solitary, I'd pretty much be disagreeing with something I'd decided myself. (Unfortunately, with the way my mind works, that's not always such an uncommon occurance.)

You could always ask a U.U to debate the point with you......:biglaugh:

 

[Katzpur]

Anyway, the basis of this polled thread is "Do you accept all the teachings of the Church to which you belong ?",or are there 'bits' you don't quite think are right, but you can cope with those differences?

I actually voted for "Aw heck, the basic principles are right. I'm not bothered about the rest." But, since I did, I want to explain why I didn't vote for "Yes, I can honestly say I am 100% in accord."

In my Church there are "doctrines," which are the Church's essential teachings. They are not only absolute, they are constant. We believe them to have been in effect from the beginning of time. This would include our teachings on the nature of God, our relationship to God, the pre-existence of our spirits, the relationship between salvation by grace through faith alone vs salvation by grace through faith and works combined, the need for the saving ordinances (such as baptism, temple endowments, eternal marriage, etc.), the post-mortal Spirit World, the three Degrees of Glory in Heaven and our potential for Eternal Progression. There are also "policies," which are established by the First Presidency of the Church (the Prophet and his two counselors and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles). This would include such things as whether or not it is considered wrong to watch R-rated movies and at what age teenagers should start single-dating. What kind of dress is appropriate for Church attendance. These policies change from time to time. Our leaders are most often quite clear as to what they expect of us in these areas, but there are no consequences for disobedience or repercussions for having a difference of opinion.

When it comes to my Church's doctrines, I can honestly say I am 100% in accord. When it comes to some of our policies, I'm not. I see R-rated movies and do so with a clear conscience. Under a given set of circumstances, I would have allowed my daughter to go on a date at age 15 1/2 instead of waiting until the prescribed age of 16. Some members of the Church might think that I am wrong in my decisions, but it doesn't affect my standing in the Church. I just grew up in a more liberal family and a lot of it rubbed off on me. Someday, I may have to pay the consequences for not always having followed the counsel of my Church's leaders, but for now, I feel fine with my decisions and am considered to be a good, strong member of the Church.

Kathryn

 

[Searcher of Light]

I am a member of the Church of Christ and most of their beliefs work with my views that Christianity is religionless. I do dislike the overall bigoted belief against other doctrines the church can have at times though.