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do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking

God Ahmed

Member
My debate is here and its

Do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking on victory.

For example : you are in a religion and you get thinking of everything from that genie who gives you thinking upon how much you pray or if your life becomes bad because you did sins like when a genie (spirits) tries to give you happy life he sees if you true by seeing you prayed for god and he makes you rich and if some genie (spirit) who is against you who says you sinned upon your thinking says your life must become bad so 2 genies (spirits) one who tries to give good life and one genies (spirits) who tries to give bad life wins by seeing they are true upon your thinking who wins gives your life good or bad.

BUT

dont you think sins are forcely done by genie (spirits) to humans because there religion gives you thinking of good and bad.

IF

human have control on there thinking then they would have never sinned, dont you think that ?

Please debate, i am proving here to be sinless. Those who doubts on me doubts on god of universe.
 

God Ahmed

Member
please make a note : there are different religions in the world and a human life runs through religion only so the religion genie (spirit) is blamed for any sins humans does because there religion wins and loses from each other and gives them good and bad thinking for living so there is no sins done by humans.

by the way, what do you think without any religion genies (spirits) what can i be ?

Also Note : a genie (spirit) is a thinking in my view.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
My debate is here and its

Do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking on victory.
I'm having difficulty understanding your question . . . genies = djinn? . . . what do you mean "who wins and gives you thinking on victory" ?

For example : you are in a religion and you get thinking of everything from that genie who gives you thinking upon how much you pray or if your life becomes bad because you did sins like when a genie (spirits) tries to give you happy life he sees if you true by seeing you prayed for god and he makes you rich and if some genie (spirit) who is against you who says you sinned upon your thinking says your life must become bad so 2 genies (spirits) one who tries to give good life and one genies (spirits) who tries to give bad life wins by seeing they are true upon your thinking who wins gives your life good or bad.
In my opinion you don't understand the djinn from a Middle Eastern or Western view which is why you are confused about all of this.

dont you think sins are forcely done by genie (spirits) to humans because there religion gives you thinking of good and bad
No, I do not. I think Mankind is responsible for their own actions. Good and Evil are subjective, they are not objective laws.

human have control on there thinking then they would have never sinned, dont you think that ?
Sin is also subjective . . . one man's good is another man's evil.
Please debate, i am proving here to be sinless. Those who doubts on me doubts on god of universe.
There is no 'god' . . .
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Ahhhhh......the gremblins that exist behind those robes...
Imaginary are they...transparant to reality...wisps of shadows on 'god's' wall.
Ahhhhh.....the monsters that are hidden in hell's cavernous ovens,
all shadows on the shadows from the light beyond the light.
All become shadows, eventually.
There is no 'god'...
~
'mud
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
Do you believe humans gets thinking from genies (spirits) who wins and gives you thinking on victory.

I believe that some of the voices that some people hear are the voices of Djinn. And some of these voices can guide to good things and victory.

you are in a religion and you get thinking of everything from that genie who gives you thinking upon how much you pray or if your life becomes bad because you did sins like when a genie (spirits) tries to give you happy life he sees if you true by seeing you prayed for god and he makes you rich and if some genie (spirit) who is against you who says you sinned upon your thinking says your life must become bad so 2 genies (spirits) one who tries to give good life and one genies (spirits) who tries to give bad life wins by seeing they are true upon your thinking who wins gives your life good or bad.

I hear voices. And I agree that some of these voices can be very persistent. The important thing to realise is that some of the voices are good and some are bad. And that we are not compelled to heed those voices all of the time (though it can feel like it). Sometimes we should do as the good voices tell us to do. But we can and should also think for ourselves. And resist the bad voices.

dont you think sins are forcely done by genie (spirits) to humans because there religion gives you thinking of good and bad.

No. Some of the Djinn will try to guide us. Some will try to corrupt us. But it is we who make our choices.

IF

human have control on there thinking then they would have never sinned, dont you think that ?

What are you calling sins?
 

God Ahmed

Member
Don't you feel when a life of human thinking is controlled by jinns (spirits) he is never sinner because it's jinn who wins from human and gives them thinking and makes human life living with there controlled thinking so how Abraham religions god or any other god calls it as humans do sins.

It's not understood able, all religions says when you come to know truth you must accept the truth. I am telling you something that is tested by me by research.
 

God Ahmed

Member
Am I on forums where people doesn't know truth that a human gets thinking from jinns spirits or you guys knows truth but trying to hide because you don't have permission.

In the religion which you follow you get fate and living from that religion jinns (spirits) if sins are happened by humans who follows a religion it's happened by there god jinns who gives them fate and living (living in the sense how and what you think) so how god can ask if human has sinned or god people ask how you have sinned, don't you feel god people or prophets or sons of God or even god like evil.
 

God Ahmed

Member
For good example and understanding I will explain you like this.

When a kid is born jinns or spirits or prophets or god puts fate in there bottom side of stomach on 2 sides left and right as what they will have in there fate (fate means what they will think and how they will think) now if they sin when they get thinking to sin from fate will prophets or jinns or god tell them why you sinned ? And give punishment I know god can do anything but a religion says god is not like evil and they say sinning is not done by god where it is done by god I prove here that I am sinless and I must go in the world of God with free pass. Hehehe

Another example those who believes in Adam and eve, Adam and Eve were made and they had fate in there stomach on left and right side that they will eat apple but god said in Abraham religions they have sinned by going against god where they never went against god it was there fate who gave them think to eat apple which was put by god or jinns.

Now everybody cannot put fate in humans in stomach it's by jinns who keeps it who are of God specially by god jinns.
 

God Ahmed

Member
I forgot to mention jinns or anybody who knows about jinns that they can control humans can put jinns in human body and human can become a sinner and god and his people thinks human sinned. Don't you feel god knows this and he isintelligent and genius.

What is truth regarding Adam and Eve from 3 options

1) jinn won and gave thinking to them for living.
2) it was god who made there fate to sin and lie to his people in all his world's just like evil act.
3) it was jinn who went in Adam and Eve body and jinn forced them do sins but god didn't know this and god declared Adam and Eve sinner in all his world's.

Just make a note : I am human but without any thinking what I can be by decision of God as I believe humans gets thinking from genies who wins and gives thinking through fate. I cannot travel from mind or do anything like god believer or angel does from mind I mean showing miracles.
 

God Ahmed

Member
Please debate on topic, stick to what I discussed, don't talk non related topics like hearing voices of djinn.

We are discussing on something very interesting from which our lives runs so everyone must know truth because truth gives victory and everything.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
It ceases to amaze me how delusional and confused the Abrahamic faiths can make some people . . .
That's uncalled for and insulting to both followers of Abrahamic religions as well as those dealing with mental health issues. There's people with mental health issues in all religions and of no religion. There's a lot of LHP people who have mental health issues. The OP may be dealing with a mental health problem. He also may be having language difficulties.
 

God Ahmed

Member
I am proving something here and telling others what there religions gods or angels or jinns didn't tell truth about there religions, as you know some religion says we have answers to everything so stick to the topic and discuss don't add something like mental problem when you or your religion loses to answer.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Amazing.... how far down, one must search,
to find anything that compares to this example thread.
It seems to me that are strange 'gods' operating here.
Or.....I'm having another stroke....!
~
'mud
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
Ahhhhhh......TRUTH.....
The entity that exists only in nothingness itself !
There's not enough room in anyone's gnosis,
for that particular ingredient,
but it will finally come to all.
~
'mud
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
That's uncalled for and insulting to both followers of Abrahamic religions as well as those dealing with mental health issues. There's people with mental health issues in all religions and of no religion. There's a lot of LHP people who have mental health issues. The OP may be dealing with a mental health problem. He also may be having language difficulties.
Did you just make that up, or do you know the OP has mental health issues? Because if the OP doesn't . . . wow with your assessment.
Also, I'm addressing how these faiths in my opinion lead to delusion, not the OP's grammar or language barrier.
 

God Ahmed

Member
What do you think how a human gets thinking, according to your expertise what story do you come up with ?

Note : truth gives victory.
 
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