Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
Sure, when you cease to exist.
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Do you believe it is possible to experience death?
- Thread starter Gambit
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Sure, when you cease to exist.
I have no idea of how that can be.
In practice you are. You are asking whether there is some part of me that can be aware of the death of my own body. How could that possibly happen without a soul?
Either you mean whether it is possible to die (which of course you know to be the case) or whether one can be conscious of one's very moment of death (which I guess no one truly knows, but probably not if the brain is disfunctional enough).
Gambit
Well-Known Member
How can you experience what it is like to cease to exist if you don't exist?
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
You can experience the end, you can't experience past the end.
Gambit
Well-Known Member
I'm going to repeat this just one more time: I'm asking if you believe it is possible to experience what it is like to not exist.
I expect a "yes" or "no" answer:
"Yes," I believe it is possible to experience what it is like to not exist.. .here's why....
"No," I do not believe it is possible to experience what it is like to not exist...here's why...
Heck, I will even accept a "yes" and "no" answer.
"Yes" and "No,",...here's why....
Gambit
Well-Known Member
Okay. You believe that it is not possible to experience cessation of existence.
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
No, you can experience the cessation, just not anything past the cessation. At the moment you die, you can no longer experience anything.
Do you have a point?
Not to live and talk about it. Are you referring to a near experience of death. There has been many. But I don't think one can
experience death on this side of death.
Gambit
Well-Known Member
I am asking if you can experience death as it is commonly envisioned - as nonexistence. Can you experience nonexistence?
Right,
Cephus
Relentlessly Rational
If you put it that way, no. The OP was poorly stated if that was what you intended. You can experience death but you can experience nothing beyond death. If you want to define your question as experiencing what comes beyond death, then no, there's no reason to think that's possible,
Your question, in those terms, is meaningless.
It would seem so. May I ask the premise behind the question? It seems a touch absurd to me.
Crap! I thought you meant is it possible to be dead or possible to die.
It's a very good likelyhood we will all die one day.
"Experience" death? I don't see how one could experience anything when dead.
The Bible says the "dead are conscious of nothing", depending upon which translation you read. If you read the Christian Bible.
It's a very good likelyhood we will all die one day.
"Experience" death? I don't see how one could experience anything when dead.
The Bible says the "dead are conscious of nothing", depending upon which translation you read. If you read the Christian Bible.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
Death? Nope. Dying? Yes.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
Mystical experiences are bunk.
There's always the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Don't know if it works that way but it is interesting. I recall dying, not death. Death is a cessation of self. At least of the identity we possessed in life.
Death and cessation of existence, I'm not sure they are the same. I've experience the beginnings of a cessation of self. I believe a "self" needs to manifest to experience anything. There has to be a something/entity to allow experiencing.
Gambit
Well-Known Member
These are interesting points you raise. I will have to reflect deeply on them.
Experiencing death is inevitable, of course it may be rather tricky recording and communicating the results of the experience to anyone else