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Do you belong to "the [true] Church" (1 Tim 3:15)?, if so, how do you prove it?
This is the theme for this Thread.
For instance, I personally, would begin with the scriptures (KJB) and attempt to identify the true church from clear descriptions given about it, and see whether that which I belonged to was a match for what was written in biblical description.
Here is how we would do it, video style (entire playlist):
Or alternatively here (the above playlist is also included in this greater indepth playlist) -
As another example, here is how another person went about it -
Library Of Sermons 21 – The Search For The True Church – Pocket Book – Joe Crews – Amazing Facts (PDF)
What are the clear identifying marks of the true church as they are found in scripture?
In Revelation 12:17, we see a clear description of the true church, notice:
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
So, in order to know whether we belong to the true church as just described by this very singular verse (others we shall consider shortly), let us identify from scripture the definition of some of the terms used.
[1] "testimony of Jesus Christ" is identified and defined in the same book of Revelation in chapter 19:
Thus, the "testimony of Jesus [Christ]" is (meaning 'equal to') "the spirit of prophecy", and we may see this in greater detail throughout the scriptures, such as Revelation 1:2,9 and so on. Let's come back to this again in a bit.
[2] "remnant", is seen coming onto the stage of history after certain historical (prophetically foretold) events occured:
So we see this order of events, that was yet future from the time it was foretold.
This is the theme for this Thread.
For instance, I personally, would begin with the scriptures (KJB) and attempt to identify the true church from clear descriptions given about it, and see whether that which I belonged to was a match for what was written in biblical description.
Here is how we would do it, video style (entire playlist):
Or alternatively here (the above playlist is also included in this greater indepth playlist) -
As another example, here is how another person went about it -
Library Of Sermons 21 – The Search For The True Church – Pocket Book – Joe Crews – Amazing Facts (PDF)
What are the clear identifying marks of the true church as they are found in scripture?
In Revelation 12:17, we see a clear description of the true church, notice:
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[1] the dragon (Satan, etc) is wroth (angry, furious) with her
[2] the dragon (Satan, etc) makes "war" with the "remnant of her seed"
[3] there is a "remnant" left of "her seed"
[4] this "remnant of her seed" is said to "keep the commandments of God"
[5] this "remnant of her seed" is said to "have the testimony of Jesus Christ"
[2] the dragon (Satan, etc) makes "war" with the "remnant of her seed"
[3] there is a "remnant" left of "her seed"
[4] this "remnant of her seed" is said to "keep the commandments of God"
[5] this "remnant of her seed" is said to "have the testimony of Jesus Christ"
So, in order to know whether we belong to the true church as just described by this very singular verse (others we shall consider shortly), let us identify from scripture the definition of some of the terms used.
[1] "testimony of Jesus Christ" is identified and defined in the same book of Revelation in chapter 19:
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Thus, the "testimony of Jesus [Christ]" is (meaning 'equal to') "the spirit of prophecy", and we may see this in greater detail throughout the scriptures, such as Revelation 1:2,9 and so on. Let's come back to this again in a bit.
[2] "remnant", is seen coming onto the stage of history after certain historical (prophetically foretold) events occured:
Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Joe 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Joe 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
So we see this order of events, that was yet future from the time it was foretold.
[1] "The sun shall be turned into darkness"
[2] "and the moon into blood"
[2] "and the moon into blood"
both of which would take place "before the great and terrible day of the LORD come"
[3] "the remnant" appears on the scene, being "call[ed]" forth of God.