Do you find peace in your beliefs?

[Nietzsche]

Everyone's definition of peace may differ, but everyone seeks it. Yea, I believe they do.

I'm not. Peace is stagnation.

 

[Sunstone]

Well, not necessarily in beliefs...but in your life. How do you define peace in your everyday life?

Several ways, among them: A lack of conflict between what I think, feel, do, and say.

 

[Deidre]

I'm not. Peace is stagnation.

So you seek to be conflicted?
Okay.

Several ways, among them: A lack of conflict between what I think, feel, do, and say.

Yes!! That's it...now that is a great way to define peace.

 

[Riverwolf]

So you seek to be conflicted?
Okay.

For myself, internal conflict can allow growth and self-improvement when properly channeled.

There's a podcast called "Heathen Talk" that I sometimes listen to, and one of their (half-joking) sayings is, "If you don't cringe when you look back on the way you were practicing Heathenry 5 years ago, you're doing it wrong."

 

[Deidre]

For myself, internal conflict can allow growth and self-improvement when properly channeled.

There's a podcast called "Heathen Talk" that I sometimes listen to, and one of their (half-joking) sayings is, "If you don't cringe when you look back on the way you were practicing Heathenry 5 years ago, you're doing it wrong."

lol I like that. And agree, the yin and yang of it all is what life ends up being about, and true growth is learning to find one's center despite the struggles (my opinion). When I explored Buddhism two years ago, I learned that it teaches how clinging is what often brings suffering. That pain is inevitable, but suffering is 'optional.' It is still up to us, if we strive for peace or not. At least that's how I took some of what I've learned from Buddhism, that no matter what we actually BELIEVE, the quality of our lives are still based largely on our choices.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Facts. Beliefs. Whatever you want to call ideas are only foolishly assessed according to whether belief in them brings us peace, in my opinion. Foolishly, because to build your understanding on that basis is like building your house on sand. What do you do when the truth comes and demolishes your notions? Do you just cling to your peace-giving, but false beliefs, denying reality like a child?

Beliefs are like building a house of sand and trusting it will stay up.

However, if the sand castle is under geat wind the fact is it will flop.

If you base your ?? on accuracy, I would assume you wouldnt have beliefs since they are unstable but youd have facts. I think the two words have different meaning.

Thats why I was wondering if you find peace in facts. They are more stable than sand castles fighting the wind.

 

[Sunstone]

Thats why I was wondering if you find peace in facts.

I know many, many facts that disturb me.

 

[Riverwolf]

lol I like that. And agree, the yin and yang of it all is what life ends up being about, and true growth is learning to find one's center despite the struggles (my opinion). When I explored Buddhism two years ago, I learned that it teaches how clinging is what often brings suffering. That pain is inevitable, but suffering is 'optional.' It is still up to us, if we strive for peace or not. At least that's how I took some of what I've learned from Buddhism, that no matter what we actually BELIEVE, the quality of our lives are still based largely on our choices.

It can be, but discussing the full scope of such a philosophy is beyond the scope of a non-debate section. LOL

Two seemingly conflicting philosophies have always jumped out at me as soon as I learned that they seem to conflict.

"Fly neither too high, Icarus, lest the sun melt your wings; nor fly too low, lest the sea wash away your wings. Fly, instead, down the middle."
From the story of Icarus.

"Walk down road. Walk right side, safe. Walk left side, safe. Walk down middle, sooner or later, *squish* like grape."
From the Karate Kid.

How can these two wise but seemingly contradictory philosophies be reconciled? Well, seeking the middle path can be good, but it's not always the best way. It all depends on context.

As I've come to learn, context is EVERYTHING in life.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I know many, many facts that disturb me.

and those that dont?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

For myself, internal conflict can allow growth and self-improvement when properly channeled.

There's a podcast called "Heathen Talk" that I sometimes listen to, and one of their (half-joking) sayings is, "If you don't cringe when you look back on the way you were practicing Heathenry 5 years ago, you're doing it wrong."

Heathern talk radio? Is that in the states? Thats a new one on me. The only "religious" stations here are christian.

 

[Sunstone]

and those that dont?

They don't necessarily have much to do at all with my sense of peace. They are most often irrelevant to it. It's a fact that most of the squirrels in my yard are red squirrels. What peace do I get from that -- or from the vast majority of facts I know.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

They don't necessarily have much to do at all with my sense of peace. They are most often irrelevant to it. It's a fact that most of the squirrels in my yard are red squirrels. What peace do I get from that -- or from the vast majority of facts I know.

Trying to see it optomistic. Its a fact that music relaxes some people. Those people find peace in that fact. Its a fact that taking medication for an illness (optomistic view) helps control symptoms. The patient finds peace because of it.

I havent really met someone who hasnt found peace in something. My neighbor finds peace by talking to her hampster Max. I dont know if its a fact Max fights with her father and they argue with each other (she has a mental health condition/serious). If it is a fact, it brings her peace. If not, all the same.

All in perspective.

 

[Riverwolf]

Heathern talk radio? Is that in the states? Thats a new one on me. The only "religious" stations here are christian.

It's a podcast, so I don't know if it's on the radio. But that's just the name of the podcast: "Heathen Talk."

 

[Straw Dog]

"I have a lot of beliefs and I live by none of 'em. That's just the way I am. They're just my beliefs. I just like believing them. I like that part. They're my little "believies." They make me feel good about who I am. But if they get in the way of a thing I want, or I want to (do) something (else), I do that." -Louie CK

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I did not say you did. I have no mysteries behind what I say. No hidden points. If you are insulted, ask for clarification.

In general (not saying you), not all religions are supernatual. So to define religion as a trait of believing an invisibme man in the sky (that I can quote) is a huge generalization to religions who dont hold that belief.

Since there are many non supernatual religions (Im not saying you dont know this), why would I think an atheist (not you) is not religious and a theist (say a christian) is?

Ask for clarification. Its hard to discuss (to anyone) if I have to keep saying "Im not talking about you"

That is a lie, you did several times.

I was saying that under your definition of religion that religions that believe that would e on par with people that have no real religious beliefs, I NEVER SAID ALL RELGIONS THINK THAT. You looked at it and took it the worst possible way you could showing you want to demonize me.

I NEVER SAID ALL ATHEIST ARE NOT RELGIOUS!!!

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Once you know its accurate, then they become facts. You find peace in facts rather than beliefs?

NOT EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR PEACE!

 

[Smart_Guy]

Oh, you have no idea how peaceful I feel when I wake up early in the morning before the sun come up, perform ablution starting with the "in the name of God" the saying the prayer that follows ablution, perform the early morning physical prayer, say the before sleeping verbal prayers, give the obligation charity to the poor, greet people with the Islamic greetings and answering those who say it to me, completely fast all day time for a whole month, saying the daily protection verbal prayers that takes me like 15 minutes sometimes... etc. I feel at real peace, specially when I'm free and nothing of life's matters is troubling me.

For some reason, when I know that I did my religious part correctly, my day start happy and I feel at ease and peace. Easy peacy, eh?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

In a way. Inner peace comes after adversity, fear and ignorance are done away with by reconciliation and dissolution. Kali is not an easy Goddess to worship.

 

[Nietzsche]

So you seek to be conflicted?
Okay.

And you seek a lack of purpose & motivation?

 

[rusra02]

I'd say most humans yearn for peace...peace within one's self, one's life, with others. When I was an atheist, it's not that I lacked a sense of peace in my life, but *something* seemed to be missing. I couldn't ever put my finger on it really, and so I searched for meaning in other faiths and belief systems. Coming back to Christianity, I've had a sense of peace over these past few months that had been missing. To me, you have found the 'right' path for want of a better word, if you are at peace in your life. If you are truly content with who you are, and how you are living...then you have found a path that works for you.

So, do you find peace in your beliefs? Atheists are always welcome to answer, for even though you may not hold spiritual or religious beliefs, you believe something. Look forward to your responses.

I agree that peace of mind and heart are important. However, Even more important, IMO, is to know the truth about the true God and enjoy a close friendship with him. One can be misled with false hopes based on our own imperfect desires, and thus reject the real hope God offers us. (2 Corinthians 4:3,4)