McBell
Unbound
That is because you do not understand post #588.
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Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?
- Thread starter Godobeyer
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They did, and always did, you know that,that dishonesty that you deny that.
edited to add :
Check your posts first before accusing people .
http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...ou-have-to-vist-this-one.101015/#post-2089083
http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...e-for-creationism.180782/page-89#post-4786702
http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...seless-in-religion.191797/page-6#post-4947496
http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...-a-good-scientist.133272/page-77#post-3217563
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Indeed it's clear dishonesty comes from you.
He hyst cut/paste what I just said , then deny it by " creation is not fact"
Godobeyer, I believe all is created by and within God. I have not said otherwise. If I said otherwise, I would have lied. But I didn't say otherwise, so I did not lie.
I rated that post as 'useful' - this does not mean I agree with the words of it. It means I think it is useful to the discussion.
Do you understand?
No I did not said you lie in that post,
I find that you was dishonest that you rate a post as "creative" ,which disagree with your believe.
Change it to "Useful" will not decrease your dishonesty.
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Right. I don't think abiogenesis is pro-atheism. I am aware some atheists think that evidence of abiogenesis supports their position. But I do not agree.
I have explained to you that I rated it as such because I think it was a good response to the logic you used. He essentially reworded what you said with his own beliefs put in, because that way it was easier to see how your logic didn't make sense. @Mestemia, I'm using 'he' here, is that right?
So whole the world think abiogenesis is used by atheists to deny creation, you don't know that ?
He many times used to copy/paste my words,then convert it to the opposite, is that kind of good response you like ?
I find it dishonet that someone rate idea disagree with, in serious discuss to please them.
I think some try to use it that way. Just as some theists with simplistic ideas try to disprove it to prove God. But I don't think either argument works, personally.
It can be a good response if it makes a valid point. In this case I thought it did.
You may think it dishonest, but I didn't mean it in that way. I just thought it was a decent point he made in the discussion. If I'm having a discussion with someone on RF and they disagree with me, I'll still 'rate' their posts if I think they're being respectful, raising good points and listening.
Most atheists I discuss about creation they used to disprove creation of God. (I don't care if you adopt it or works or not).
that's why I find it dishonesty .
See why I don't trust you,and I don't considere your opinion credible ?
This is different between you and me:
I will never rate a post against my belief, to please my friends.
That's called hypocrisy and dishonesty.
Really? Fair enough. I'm not saying people don't do it, all I'm saying is I don't think it makes sense. I don't see why you'd think it was dishonest, but a lot of what you say doesn't make sense to me so that's no surprise.
I don't see really, no. If I respect somebody and what they're saying, I'll rate their posts. It's not about pleasing them, it's about showing respect and appreciation.
You can respect somebody and listen to their point of view even if you disagree with them.
I don't care about how you believe it.
I said they used it,full stop.
Your dishonesty is revealed to me, you won't fool me about "respect".
I will not rate posts disagree with my belief because I respect the poster. that's idiot to say.
Yeah, they do. Never denied it.
Well, if you say so. You seem to have strong feelings on the subject of how I use the rating system. I mean no dishonesty by it, but you don't like me for whatever reason it seems, so you're going to paint me with that brush regardless.
Yeah, I never said some people don't use it as an argument. That was basic.
Right, I don't know where you're getting this from, if you're convinced I'm lying for no reason I can figure out (I suspect because you don't like my beliefs) then there'll be no budging you, so believe as you will.
You said "it's not pro-atheism." which is not far.
Notice,I did not said "lie"
How much should I explain this ?
Rate posts disagree with your belief to please others,For me that was dishonesty and hypocrisy.get it ?
I will NEVER EVER rate a post disagree with my belief to please the others, I just despise that action.
Yes, because I don't think it is a satisfactory support for the atheist position.
I don't do it to please others. I do it out of respect or appreciation.
Your opinion can't deny the fact that pro-atheism faith based on it.
Let's analyze it :
Godobeyer:
If you want to believe in lie, that your problem.
theory abiogenesis is not fact.
Mestemia :
If you want to believe in lie, that your problem.
Creation is not fact.
Actuatly it's about please.
It's just dishonest again ,if you try say that you meant by rate :
I respect/appreciate Mestemia because he repeated what Godobeyer said, and he said "creation is not fact".
Some atheists use it as an argument for atheism, yes. But it is not intrinsically a "pro-atheist" idea. Do you know what 'intrinsically' means? If not I can explain.
Why are you second-guessing my motives? I thought his post did a good job at pointing out the emptiness of your assertion. That's it.
McBell
Unbound
Sadly for you, your links do not support your claim.