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Do you think I should?

Link

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They lie more then they tell the truth, they hide more then they reveal, in Quran and Sunnah is the truth of what truly occurs. Trust and ask at your own peril.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
@firedragon and note to all Muslims, remember if you go to these people, your Salah not accepted for 40 days. And if you believe in what they say, you are a disbeliever per Mohammad (s). Better to learn how they really work from Quran and Sunnah.

What do you mean "go to these people"? Who are "these people" you are referring to?

Brother. Let me make a humble request. Please dont get me entangled in sectarian strife, slippery slopes and takfiri thasarufath sahifatun min shahs jaheeli.

I say that with all due respect.

Peace.
 

Link

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Premium Member
What do you mean "go to these people"? Who are "these people" you are referring to?

Brother. Let me make a humble request. Please dont get me entangled in sectarian strife, slippery slopes and takfiri thasarufath sahifatun min shahs jaheeli.

I say that with all due respect.

Peace.

Brother, I am warning you with all the love akin to Mufasa for his son Simba when he says you can go everywhere the light touches but don't go there. You can learn everything and all sorts of things, but Mohammad (s) said not to trust these people and it's up to you to listen or not.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
They lie more then they tell the truth, they hide more then they reveal, in Quran and Sunnah is the truth of what truly occurs. Trust and ask at your own peril.

I dont know what you are talking about. But your so called "faith" is so weak that hearing someone out shakes it you should watch your own eeman. Please leave people alone.

Cheers.
 

Link

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Premium Member
I dont know what you are talking about. But your so called "faith" is so weak that hearing someone out shakes it you should watch your own eeman. Please leave people alone.

Cheers.

Adam's (a) trust was his downfall but inshallah you will learn from it, as he did. Deceivers can't be trusted but do what you will.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Are you in the belief that because I chose to convert to Sufi islam i should become a hater, rapist, woman hater, sexist, liar, criminal, murderer?

This is the feeling i get from a very few people, that because I personally chose to become a Muslim I would automatically become a Taliban who hate everything except them selves and their ego?

That is not the islam i see. That is not the purpose of the teaching.

Isnt it the people who do those horrible things to others that is the issue? Those who use the verses made during time of war to justify their own evil deeds?

Mostly all muslims are peace loving people who want the best for others.

Why let the few who are not, destroy the many who want you happiness and love?

May it be that it takes time and effort daily to understand the teaching, but those who do not study can only see the words, but not the truth?
You forgot that you are supposed to fly airplanes into buildings too.

Seriously every large group has its fringe. Sadly some people have those beliefs about all members of those groups.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Allah (swt) has agreed and Angels (a) and Imams (a) with the Jinn and sorcerers- that if a person asks these people, they will let go of their protection barriers and these people then when God removed his barrier - they truly can effect you with their various water, earth, air, and fire and even many other types of Jinn and energy, and then you got yourself and neither Michael or Gabriel at your side nor their Angels, till you repent sincerely and to get of the hole you will fall into is no easy task.

Unfortunately, you are taking my advice as an attack on you when it is a mistake I did and regret.

Just when things get tough remember the Dua I linked you. It will be your way out.
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
It's a good thing we have that separation!

I don't think that's a "Muslim" issue, since there are plenty of Muslims that likely enjoy this separation and plenty of Christians that don't.

True. I think that Islam doesn't tend to favor a separation. The religion is part of every aspect of society. I could be wrong.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I know the mistake he is doing, because I went through that myself. I am warning him and trying to protect him.
Not to judge you or you belief, but you sometimes sound like those extremists one can read about in the news, and today that has actually scared me a bit.
 

Link

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Premium Member
Not to judge you or you belief, but you sometimes sound like those extremists one can read about in the news, and today that has actually scared me a bit.

Extremist is ambiguous term. Being moderate may or may not be right depending what it means in your head.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Not to worry. Landing is the hardest part and you won't have to worry about that:D

And not to worry, we do not need anyone, God sent birds from hell (Angels - Zabaniya) that when Gog and Magog felt they had the Kaba and their plans would come about, was foiled.

God does not need any of us. If we wish to join Baqiyatallah and his forces, it's up to us. If we want to be neutral up to us. And if we join Satan, up to us.

Only believers will succeed at the end, both in this world and next.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Extremist is ambiguous term. Being moderate may or may not be right depending what it means in your head.
To be moderate to me, mean to do our best to see the best in every human being, and in our own being, struggle to make this world a better, less aggressive place to be.
And learn from our own wrongdoing, so others can see that it is possible to be a good human being from the heart.
 
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