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Do you think my sins are killing people?

Spiderman

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Much of this is bolld so as to not need to read all of it, but mainly wanted to share the conviction I might be even causing people to get shot, or fight, by sharing the blasphemies in scripture, or God wants me to believe that's my sins are hurting people severely comment as a warning, because at this time he's not yet able to do to me what he's doing to them, not because I am tough, but because of Devil's or souls who offer me more protection.

I'm not saying anyone spoke to me, just saying some strong convictions came, followed by coincidence, not sure how to word it without writing a book.

I felt Enoch, son of Jared, God exalted, because of the threat of Enoch, son of Cain, because of how holy Cain was for rejecting to be a shepherd, because his mother taught him to only eat meat if you hunt when it is necessary, and any Deity worthy of worship, would prefer an offering that is not blood sacrifice, that is grown from the ground. The cruelty that would result by supporting the captivity of animals to be blood sacrifices or to give humans the pleasure of eating a creature less guilty of sin than them, is not just cruel, but an offering grown from the earth should be a more pleasing offering.

The meaning of the name of the grandfather of Enoch, son of Jared, is the title of the female pagan divinity I felt I was previously told, was the one who favored Cain and prevented him from receiving the death penalty, only because God realized all of heaven knew it wasn't because of jealousy at all, and "Am I my brothers keeper" was something similar to what God said, when he was blamed for murdering Eve , blaming her for the fall over an apple, murdering almost everyone, save for Enoch, son of Cain, who we are told is confused with Enoch, son of Jared.

It was so long ago, very hard to verify who is who, or if both are the same person, or fiction, when both lived before Noah's Ark, which doesn't sound like a true story to have a boat big enough to fit so many animals, feed them, clean their waste products.

Cain killing Abel was done to save his brother from a monster, or out of charity like a mother getting an abortion to save the child getting born without arms, legs, mom, Dad, born into worse poverty than the worst slums, and how hard , hopeless, impossible to grow in virtue in such an environment, or the likelihood of becoming a slave to the wrong master, multiple reasons Cain was very compassionate, and compassion can make a person more likely to kill , than indifference to the suffering of another, compassion being the reason Cain was a farmer , and if an enemy force that has a history of entering the village of a defeated enemy to take away the virgins as sexual slaves who cannot consent, as Yahweh gave men of God permission to do, that could cause a person to murder relativers

(after killing their relatives who are not virgins, take the traumatized virgins whose relatives are dead because your monster God who is perfect, is such a sociopath, put the virgins through more of a nightmare, a lifetime of getting raped by the people who killed mom, dad, brother, sisters whose) a loving parent might show their love by killing as many of those virgins, before they fall into the hands of such monsters.

I know the people I can think of, who I would take a bullet for, or to think of children falling into the hands of those who worship a God (who says they get what they deserve, for loving Idols , which of course is genocide and eternal damnation, for God is a jealous angry God, claiming love and demanding it from people , demanding it is a fault of theirs to not love him, when he has given them every reason to believe there is more excuse for pardoning Sodom and Gomorrah , than for pardoninhg Yahweh, showing that he is further from love than most atheists, shaming and damning those who don't believe him, (telling prophets to not even pray for such people or feel sorry for them , in scripture).

when he could have talked to them, shown them he cares about them, repeatedly refused , or kicked and shamed them for not being what they cannot help but to be, insisting he is perfect, spotless, omnipotent, and clearly showing every sign of that not being possible, compassion says without hesitation , better that they were comfortably euthanized.

I know I would thank my mom for aborting me, if the alternative is to spend an eternity being his idea of perfect, praising the one who is least worthy of praise, who did that to people I knew, or historical figures I cherish, or anyone, or to even be surrounded by people saying such a sicko is pure, holy, love, without blemish, innocent, worth sacrificing anything for,.

to be continued....
 
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Spiderman

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So, Enoch, son of Jared, the name of the Joker from suicide squad played by Jared letto, well, that Joker was who someone named James thought I looked like,his initials JDC, JD for James Dean, who starred as Cain in East of Eden, and JC for Jesus Christ, told me he thought when he first saw me, added a very disturbing experience of him being upset apparently at me, which would have been less disturbing had someone not told me to go attack some guy, attack him in front of his daughter who looked younger than 10, for insulting him in front of her, when he tried to talk to her.

... and two disturbing fights I saw at higher ground where they serve meals.

Then it continued, from days ago when I shared some of it. I bought clippers because the barber I went to told me come back after 4:00. The guy that was with him was there as the door was locked, told me to hand over the money, I said I would when it's time to get my haircut and the door is open, he accused me of racism, thinking I think black people want to mug me, am discriminating, and he's taking me off the list for a haircut.... and my countering his BS causing him to push me, my telling him "blow my brains out" was followed by walking to the store nearby the next day, there are police and lights flashing, definitely for someone there, not the store nearby, even though I didn't see him.

Then, the clippers I just bought, are being used by a friend for the first time, the haircut isn't even finished, they fall to the ground, break, he puts it back together, even tries new batteries, no luck, and I have no receipt, an embarrassing half or close to that of my head is shaved, the other long, looking terrible.


I knew, this is way too much to be happening in such a short time, other than the first incident where the barber pushed me, all this other stuff in less than 24 hours.

But it is a feeling like God is trying to threaten and intimidate because I know to much and intercessors are shielding me, but he hurts others, like I shared with someone online "i think God is choosing to do to people around me , what he wants to do to me, but I pray and have enough people praying for me, he finds someone who doesn't have as many fans in heaven, or admirable qualities that he can get away with hurting, to threaten me, and make me feel like I did it.

I swear, I said that same message, different choice of words, and was at the Library, was walking home, and someone acting strange enough for me to take a different route home, brought me to what I knew was not an accident or a fight , but a shooting, or attempted murder with a weapon. It was the quantity of police present, and how fervent they are about approaching you when you are not even close to the scene , to tell you to stay on the other side of the road, avoid getting any closer, and when I saw them bringing over a blanket to place on someone laying on the ground where I used to panhandle, it reminded me of the dead guy I saw while skiing, after he flatlined and no pulse was detected, the blanket placed over him.

I checked Minnesota twitter crime reports, sure enough, a shooting right there, obviously right where I saw the blanket being brought. I don't know if it was fatal, but for that to happen right after I sent a PM saying "I worry God is hurting people to threaten me, intimidate me, when I begin to realize more info about him he doesn't want shared, what he wants to do to me, but realizes he will lose too many fans, is giving me time to repent , or fall into the correct sins and snares so no one could respect me,
find me too despicable to support, are ashamed of me, even if they agree with the general message, falling into certain sins can be a deal breaker, ....at least a bully like Yahweh can offer an entertaining war, money, pleasure, mansion, what seems like brute strength, or nuclear holocaust that makes an entertaining left behind series or witch hunt, end times hysteria, inquisition, cannibalism, drama)

.....sins that good people will see come from a selfish , weak, or stereotypical effeminate person, the way Christians use effeminate to not be speaking of the strengths given to women more often than men) might qualify as sins that leave me without being worth sacrifice, or cause for hope, due to many of those people perhaps traumatized, by ways someone like myself did damage to them or a loved one, through getting them to give up on religion, join a cult, be the wrong pagan, rebel against parents, or not being chaste in thought , word, deed.


As long as my sins are of being someone who is making sense about how badly God victimizes good people, and is the chief funder and enabler of the worst Devils, just far more dishonest, able to deceive, more wealthy, more powerful, more intimidating, good people won't object to that, just might think I'm mislead, poisoned, deceived about Dad.

So, Yahweh , would be working overtime to be getting me to have these falls, or the terrible things to happen to people, that will seem too linked to something else, and a chain of unusual things in a 24 hour period linked to something Yahweh is mad about.

The only devils that would do that, are doing it in obedience to him. Any Devil who wants me to be able to lead someone away from Christianity, will want me to be drug free, not give cause for scandal, don't be a pervert, practice what you preach, because if you cannnot walk the walk, put your money where your mouth is, they have absolutely no reason to believe the words of a blasphemer like you, with a reputation that in many societies , people would know the prudent thing to do is euthanize such people,band have legally done so, or lobotomy.

...., and so the Devil would not want a servant like that showing people why Yahweh was right, so would not tempt me to sin.



...when in fact, Yahweh is the tempter, the cause of our misery, anyone who believes God should make all dreams come true must be evil, it is totally opposed to his repetative nature, of setting us up for what he knows we will fail at, pretending that's a blood pretending that blood, sweat, tears are necessary penance to pay some debt, when an omnipotent God knows he has infinite resources he hurries, wastes, hides from a needy starving world that expects this heavenly father to show, or be who he claims he is, love .

everyone should saved, those people God must prove are Devil's, so he needs to be lead the miost compassionate believers, those who preach that a loving God would not torture Gandhi forever, are preaching heresy, so the best way to get people to not follow them, it's for God to show people that they are not capable of functioning well, cause humpty dumpster to fall, push him off the wall, them blame Idolatry.

The best friend of Yahweh, are the demons that can prove, or show enough evidence that it is true.
 
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Spiderman

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But , Cyrus the great, even Yahweh had to admit that a lover of the whore of Babylon, a polytheist Idolater, someone God made clear is worshipping Devils and dangerous, resembling the Antichrist more than any other figure in history, minus the part about persecuting Gods people....God admits he was the Messiah, more loved during his life than Jesus, by far.

... for him to do that , it would mean he loses support in his kingdom or Angels, from those those valued altruists, who buy into his lies of being love. Scripture says "the violent take Heaven by force" and compares God to a judge who gives a widow what she wants, not because he likes her, or wants her to get it, but because the judge is afraid of what the widow will do to him.

This actually proves God is a coward. Being omnipotent can make you very fearless, and capable of making the strongest enemies be petrified and scream like stuck pigs, but Muhammad Ali is a coward for killing a bunch of mother Teresa's or breaking the jaws of little girls who blaspheme the prophet, and it doesn't make him less of a coward, but more of a coward, and Yahweh has done far more cowardly things than that.

When titanic was going down, Yahweh is the guy that when they say, there is only room for women and children on life boats, he will trample and kill as many women and children as it takes for there to be room for him, then kill anyone who claims to be better than him, saying they are proud devils, burn them in hell, proves just what kind of a coward we are up against.

He can't handle blasphemy, the poor baby! that he is scared of what a woman pounding on the door will do to him, says Jesus himself, a woman who intimidates the judge enough that he gives her what he doesn't want to because Jesus says the Judge is scared...

.... scared of being humbled or protests, or drop in approval from his sadist, hypocrite, bigot boys club, and also leaves wide open the possibility of dethroning him, and actually establishing something that resembles justice, virtue, sanity, a solution rather than worshiping the cause of Evil, the selfishness , the pride, the narcissism, the spoiled brat that is Yahweh! ;)

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Spiderman

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.... also, I might have fallen Angels on my side, he might pay some to be on his side, and new Angels might fall and be welcomed in daily, because I know the Bible so well that I would have spirits that don't like it invest in me , not because I'm special, but because it's an exceptionally rare interest, and seemingly unhealthy, pointless, that most wouldn't do it even if they were a genius at it.

Bible Christians are often shocked, and yet I passionately hate the proud, jealous hypocrite portrayed there, more than anything, and yet seem very meek, humble, prayerful, compassionate, able to love and understand people most christian clergy have no love for, and when there is a christian who is truly altruistic, or Muslim, there really isn't anything we often disagree on, (with Christians especially), the stereotypical blasphemer who hates God and praises Idolatry, most days I would be one of the last you would suspect when observing a desire to be more chaste, sober, have self control, detachment from wealth, possessions, wanting wisdom and understanding above power, home, vehicle, or good sex, beautiful wife etc.

That and a knowledge of Scripture, that people tell me is shocking, could be the reason someone unimpressive like myself, in every other way, would be very valued in the spirit world.

Maybe valued by those that don't even like me, just because of how I might at least be able to prove to the monster who tortured and murdered them and their family, in front of everyone in heaven, they might need a kamikazee like me to prove something, before I go off to the eternal torture.

I assume few care about, when God doesn't, at least we can try to make it so that those who worship him, are aware he is the epitome of disgusting, and they know they are doing it for reward, to protect loved ones, as oppose to thinking Yahweh is above the animals, animals who are innocent and good responsible parents in comparison,.

I feel repeatedly, a hunch, it's why he's hurting those around me, as well as some of the drug overdoses I survived with a jump off a three story building that left me in a wheel chair for ten weeks, and other attempts, is he really isn't keeping me alive, would loved to have seen me die, obviously he never was omnipotent.


...regarding morality and faith, other than my views that Yahweh is a hypocrite and mass murderer in the Bible, I appear devout pious christian, feeling terrible about any sin that may have brought harm to someone , or how my anger at God might turn someone into an atheist or send them into hell, the constant battle back and forth about not knowing , it might save them from God, make them more virtuous, less of a bigot, more ecumenical, still prayerful.

So, always wondering if I am the cause of the misfortune and disasters, storing up more guilt for self, it creates hell that a Bible caused, and with it sending opposite extremes of messages, moral relativism, and trying to ignore the problem, it won't let me ignore it, it's like telling someone right in front of 9/11 trade centers coming down, "stop letting it get to you or rob you of your peace when you can't make a difference anyway".
 

Spiderman

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They wouldn't expect such blasphemies or signs of virtue coming from someone like me. So, fallen Angels who fell because of the same reasons Gandhi wouldn't want to be in Heaven, would sacrifice more to keep me alive than those who have no interest or ability to see the BS, or they see it but have lives to live to not get passionate about fighting it, if proven, any attempt at thinking you can bring about justice, is futile, waste of time, and might make people turn to atheism, then hedonism,


....where devout Christians tend to have better morals, seem happier, more stable, families more likely to stay together that pray together and put God first, so it still makes sense to not do anything about it.

But I felt that is what Mother God, who man and woman in the likeness and image of God included woman, she was trying to do what is best for the children and countless good people who believe his lies, the title Yahweh is an office that is subject to change, so the Bible was inspired by many spirits claiming to hold that office, or temporarily holding the great "I am , Yahweh" title, as every Pope holds the title "Peter", the office Peter, the keys of peter, the chair of Peter, but not every Pope is Peter.

But every Pope is Peter. That is true! So, there is no God but God, the only God is Yahweh, is true, and no God is Yahweh can be true, because Yahweh means "I am", and it doesn't tell you what name comes after "I am", so I am Charlie spoke to Moses. I am Jim Carrey. I am curley, Larry, Moe, the spirit just says "I am, Yahweh", and can tell you the truth and a lie, and be right either way because he didn't finish the sentence.


Scripture says all scripture is inspired by God, but doesn't tell you if the Bible is scripture, a debate Christians are still divided on, so since God isn't faithful to his word, since he loves terrorism and genocide, and killing babies and pregnant women in s
gods, which the Bible actually says "Amen, know you not, that you are gods", and scripture says "we are one body in Christ", so there is only one God, could mean all of us are part of one God and Divine, for sins they never committed, what makes you think he isn't dishonest, or that he guided the right books to be in your Bible?

Also, the spirit of the creator making all things descend from it, is a part of it, knows our thoughts, or the future, or actions etc., so in that sense, we are
 

Spiderman

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Her kindness and mercy, she is possibly regretting, since historians make it clear a polythiest built the temple, created Israel, ended the Babylonian captivity, that prevented Abrahamic monotheism from going extinct, and made it strong enough to let Islam bite and destroy the Divine feminine religion , the Arab Moon and morning star Goddesses that helped save him, gets repaid for her kindness, being a bit too generous.


.....if she becomes the murderer the book of revelation says she becomes, she has the best excuse I have ever heard for someone murdering large amounts of Christians who she was nothing but kind to them, or rather, Yahweh's family who prefigured them, and got such a thank you in return!

She was so kind to them and their hateful self absorbed , greedy hypocrite, even christian historians show the King of Babylon, who worshiped "Mother of Harlots, Queen of Heaven", as chief Deity , he likely saved Abrahamic monotheism, showed more signs of christian charity towards enemies than christian conquerors demonstrated for pagans or non Christians, total , complete, clear evidence for great, heroic love, and tolerance, justice coming more from an Idolator than any conqueror who wasn't an Idolator.

.,...King of the most evil city, devoted to praising God's least favorite Queen of Heaven, when she has been hurt that badly, her kindness rewarded like that , by those who read about how holy it is, God sends an Angel to call a bigger audience to watch what he inspires, a naked snuff film of a woman (the one who helped him), getting humiliated, stripped, scourged, mutilated, burned, tortured, murdered, eaten.

Yes, a Saint who has received such treatment, could eventually change her stance of wanting to protecting the countless good Christians,
and simply go with what always went against her conscience, a global persecution, because repeated abuse and antagonism from such a group, despite so many of it's people being good, their inability to identify the obvious is causing so much agony, the strongest in virtue simply give up and go postal, so Yaweh can say "I told you, they are evil and wanted to hurt you all along. It is proof that you and they cannot do it without Pol Pot to guide you. ;)
 

Spiderman

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I had a vision of the Fatima sun, dancing in the sky, October 13 1917, for the crowd of pilgrims at Portugal, and Amaterasu the Sun Goddess, she was legion for she was many, wearing the crown of Sun God Apollo, what the statue of liberty wears, and this pops up.

could not have been better timing:


Apollo is another language for Apollyon the destroyer, who holds the keys to the bottomless pit, in revelation 9:11, that Christians deny being a good Angel, because of him being a Pagan Deity, couldn't also be a friend of God, and the amount of suffering that the creatures he releases from the pit cause, (to the point people who don't accept Jesus long for death, beg for it, but death they are denied), makes him look evil.


....but the verse speaks of him being a star that comes from Heaven (sun is a star in the heavens) , with a key to release sadists from prison. The president doesn't give a sadist the keys to release his enemies, unless that sadist, and the sadist he releases, are working for the president! ;)

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Isabelle contains the name of Jesus (Isa) and Belle, who broke the curse of the beast!

Funny, I saw Hermione Granger from Emma Watson, who played that character in the beauty and the beast version released March 17
The New York Giants, Nephilim break the curse of the beast!
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Spiderman

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There is allegedly a giant liberty lurker serpent that originally the statue of liberty contained in it. Even were it true, it would be so ridiculous, the actual documents from real credible people or politicians, would be dismissed as fake, conspiracy
 

Spiderman

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I confess, just a day that the God we have is the primary cause for why I feel strongly most mothers made the worst decision imaginable, when they chose life, and could have spared their child this misery, confusion, torture, hell, and sick God, by getting an abortion.

I have those days. I live with crazies, am unhealthy enough as is.

Great things there still are to be grateful for, like friendship with people I care very much about, who died in worst darkness, terror, agony, despair, suicide, robbed of everything, leaving signs that were very convincing, that they are okay and happy.

For that and countless things, this might be very wrong. If God isn't the God of the Bible, he might not be able to do a lot of the stuff I fault him for not doing, and so, if that is the case, it's not him , but the scriptures I have an issue with. If you pray to a loving humble father, keep doing so. Humility and love is never something to discourage. ;)
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
This was mainly just me talking to myself.

My bad.

Radical acceptance of martyrdom, talking plus worry less, do what seems prudent, accept screw ups are inevitable stepping stones to success,

Martyrdom and death is an obvious thing 10 out of 10 canot escape like Enoch, so best to enjoy it, sing and dance your way into the crematorium ,death camp, like Maximilian kolbe, might make a lot more sense than approaching the confusion, humiliation, fear of harming self or others on accident due to a God showing signs of extreme psychosis worse than me.

To be thrilled or easy going better than bitterness, resentment.

Pray for me. :)
 

1213

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....The cruelty that would result by supporting the captivity of animals to be blood sacrifices or to give humans the pleasure of eating a creature less guilty of sin than them, is not just cruel, but an offering grown from the earth should be a more pleasing offering....
Cain killing Abel was done to save his brother from a monster, or out of charity like a mother getting an abortion to save the child getting born without arms, legs, mom, Dad, born into worse poverty than the worst slums, and how hard , hopeless, impossible to grow in virtue in such an environment, or the likelihood of becoming a slave to the wrong master, multiple reasons Cain was very compassionate, and compassion can make a person more likely to kill , ....
So, it is ok to kill humans, but not animals?

Why do you think "Cain killing Abel was done to save his brother from a monster"? Is it ok to kill a cow, if you think you save it from a wolf?
 

Spiderman

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So, it is ok to kill humans, but not animals?

Why do you think "Cain killing Abel was done to save his brother from a monster"? Is it ok to kill a cow, if you think you save it from a wolf?
I'm saying, it was something I heard..might not be inspired by good spirits or was just my imagination.....if he was being lead by an entity that resembled a military Dictator, where Cain was lead by someone he was demonizing, who wanted everyone to find eternal happiness, and go to realms where they could have a Deity they love, who doesn't seem like a hypocrite, or proud, not demanding worship and threatening death for disobedience, not be confused or tempted etc....

Killing your brother before he is lead to be a Gestapo for Hitler might make him much less guilty on judgement day, no blood on his hands...who knows.

We don't know if the spirit they were offering to was actually the creator who is love....

No, not good to kill animals or humans, but people who love their dog, and the dog is sick, has rabies, or is in agony, eventually the merciful thing to do is prevent the dog from something much worse than putting it to sleep.
 

1213

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Killing your brother before he is lead to be a Gestapo for Hitler might make him much less guilty on judgement day, no blood on his hands...who knows.
That is why I think it is good that God says "don't murder", you don't know when it is right time for a person to die. For example in that case, what if the killed brother would have turned Hitler to right path, but you prevented it by killing your brother?
No, not good to kill animals or humans, but people who love their dog, and the dog is sick, has rabies, or is in agony, eventually the merciful thing to do is prevent the dog from something much worse than putting it to sleep.
So, in this case it is ok, if God kills humans, if He sees it prevents great suffering and evil?
 

Spiderman

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That is why I think it is good that God says "don't murder", you don't know when it is right time for a person to die. For example in that case, what if the killed brother would have turned Hitler to right path, but you prevented it by killing your brother?

So, in this case it is ok, if God kills humans, if He sees it prevents great suffering and evil?
I'm not saying it is okay, but I'm saying the motive can be love as well. Cain may have realized that the spirit requiring blood sacrifice was going to divide people, cause wars, divide the city of Babel so groups speak different languages, which causes wars through lack of unity and feeling superior.

Feeling like his only son dying to pay a debt is necessary if he is omnipotent, and the misery radical monotheist regimes would cause, condemning people to eternal torture, causing so much misery.

Cyrus the great was a Messiah who demonstrated greater charity, making sure everyone is happy , not letting anyone know if they are his favorite religion, culture, or ethnicity...he worshiped Babylonian Gods and the mother of harlots, when he became King of Babylon, built the temple, forgave his enemies, spoiled the Jews and monotheists, to the point historians call him the savior of monotheism...say he likely prevented it from becoming extinct....

It may have been Cain saw his brother being lead by a spirit that preaches love, but extremes of sadism, and has a fondness for war, scaring people, making claims that are not true, a frightening Dictator, and Cain knew there were other spirits that were co-creators, helping create the world, female spirits , Divine Mothers, for God created woman in the image of God as well...

He may have simply been like Jacob, preferring the mother God he knew over the Father.
 

John D. Brey

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Much of this is bolld so as to not need to read all of it, but mainly wanted to share the conviction I might be even causing people to get shot, or fight, by sharing the blasphemies in scripture, or God wants me to believe that's my sins are hurting people severely comment as a warning, because at this time he's not yet able to do to me what he's doing to them, not because I am tough, but because of Devil's or souls who offer me more protection.

I'm not saying anyone spoke to me, just saying some strong convictions came, followed by coincidence, not sure how to word it without writing a book.

I felt Enoch, son of Jared, God exalted, because of the threat of Enoch, son of Cain, because of how holy Cain was for rejecting to be a shepherd, because his mother taught him to only eat meat if you hunt when it is necessary, and any Deity worthy of worship, would prefer an offering that is not blood sacrifice, that is grown from the ground. The cruelty that would result by supporting the captivity of animals to be blood sacrifices or to give humans the pleasure of eating a creature less guilty of sin than them, is not just cruel, but an offering grown from the earth should be a more pleasing offering.

The meaning of the name of the grandfather of Enoch, son of Jared, is the title of the female pagan divinity I felt I was previously told, was the one who favored Cain and prevented him from receiving the death penalty, only because God realized all of heaven knew it wasn't because of jealousy at all, and "Am I my brothers keeper" was something similar to what God said, when he was blamed for murdering Eve , blaming her for the fall over an apple, murdering almost everyone, save for Enoch, son of Cain, who we are told is confused with Enoch, son of Jared.

It was so long ago, very hard to verify who is who, or if both are the same person, or fiction, when both lived before Noah's Ark, which doesn't sound like a true story to have a boat big enough to fit so many animals, feed them, clean their waste products.

Cain killing Abel was done to save his brother from a monster, or out of charity like a mother getting an abortion to save the child getting born without arms, legs, mom, Dad, born into worse poverty than the worst slums, and how hard , hopeless, impossible to grow in virtue in such an environment, or the likelihood of becoming a slave to the wrong master, multiple reasons Cain was very compassionate, and compassion can make a person more likely to kill , than indifference to the suffering of another, compassion being the reason Cain was a farmer , and if an enemy force that has a history of entering the village of a defeated enemy to take away the virgins as sexual slaves who cannot consent, as Yahweh gave men of God permission to do, that could cause a person to murder relativers

(after killing their relatives who are not virgins, take the traumatized virgins whose relatives are dead because your monster God who is perfect, is such a sociopath, put the virgins through more of a nightmare, a lifetime of getting raped by the people who killed mom, dad, brother, sisters whose) a loving parent might show their love by killing as many of those virgins, before they fall into the hands of such monsters.

I know the people I can think of, who I would take a bullet for, or to think of children falling into the hands of those who worship a God (who says they get what they deserve, for loving Idols , which of course is genocide and eternal damnation, for God is a jealous angry God, claiming love and demanding it from people , demanding it is a fault of theirs to not love him, when he has given them every reason to believe there is more excuse for pardoning Sodom and Gomorrah , than for pardoninhg Yahweh, showing that he is further from love than most atheists, shaming and damning those who don't believe him, (telling prophets to not even pray for such people or feel sorry for them , in scripture).

when he could have talked to them, shown them he cares about them, repeatedly refused , or kicked and shamed them for not being what they cannot help but to be, insisting he is perfect, spotless, omnipotent, and clearly showing every sign of that not being possible, compassion says without hesitation , better that they were comfortably euthanized.

I know I would thank my mom for aborting me, if the alternative is to spend an eternity being his idea of perfect, praising the one who is least worthy of praise, who did that to people I knew, or historical figures I cherish, or anyone, or to even be surrounded by people saying such a sicko is pure, holy, love, without blemish, innocent, worth sacrificing anything for,.

to be continued....

This message (particularly the title) is peculiarly apropos. It sets the writer up as a modern day Cain in many blatant as well as hidden ways. The scripture says God catches the unrighteous man in his wayward ways. Sometimes he does this by hiding the truth just below the surface so that if, say, Cain really was just digging up plants to offer to God, he'd have found the truth there just beneath the surface of the text.

Someone who was really willing to dig just a bit beneath the surface text (the Hebrew rather than the English, the truth rather than the Masoretes) would see, by referencing say Deuteronomy 28:4, that Cain isn't really the vegetarian life-lover he appears to be in the King Jame's English, or the Masoretic Text: he offers the fruit from his loins, his children, and not yams and sunflower seeds.

The offerings in these threads are like that. They come proclaiming a vicious god seen through the eyes and epistemology of a modern day Cain/vegetarian who wouldn't hurt a fly, when the true spirit behind the humanism and good, is the very violence against the good God that's detrimental to, and ends in murder of ---eventually ----one's brothers and sisters. Cain started by offering the fruit of his loins to God, and ended offering up his brother. The scripture says he who hates God hates his brother, and he who secretly hates his brother hates God. Wherever you find hatred and vituperation against God, just a shovel or two beneath the surface you will find the hidden hatred of man and brother that robes itself first, in humanism and moral good, and lastly in the blood of one's brothers and sisters. He who tries to hurt or hunt God, will, when that fails, turn to easier game.

Once there was a spider who wanted to get across a river to hunt greater game. He asked a fly to let him climb on his back and fly him over the river. The fly said you'll bite me and drink my blood. The spider said that would be stupid and self-defeating since then I'd fall in the river and drown. The logic of the spider sounded so sound that the fly said get on board TWA 666. Half way across the river the fly felt the fangs of the spider sink in the heart of its flesh. As they both drown, the fly said why did you do that? Now we're both going to die? The spider said, Sorry, it's just my nature.

The nature of all who would harm God, who hate God, is hidden to them just beneath the soil of their humanism and moral goodness so that they haven't even the honesty of the drowning spider. Which is to say, never let a god-hater use you, or even do you a favor, or you're likely, at some point, to feel the sharpness of his fangs, or the poison come, so to say, from what his pen is. Now, it's directed mostly toward God. When you don't join the party, it will turn on you since whether you know it or not, you're infinitely easier to game than is God. When you see anyone or thing that's contrary to God, be it a spider, man, or both, run the other way if you're wise.




John
 
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InvestigateTruth

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Much of this is bolld so as to not need to read all of it, but mainly wanted to share the conviction I might be even causing people to get shot, or fight, by sharing the blasphemies in scripture, or God wants me to believe that's my sins are hurting people severely comment as a warning, because at this time he's not yet able to do to me what he's doing to them, not because I am tough, but because of Devil's or souls who offer me more protection.

I'm not saying anyone spoke to me, just saying some strong convictions came, followed by coincidence, not sure how to word it without writing a book.

I felt Enoch, son of Jared, God exalted, because of the threat of Enoch, son of Cain, because of how holy Cain was for rejecting to be a shepherd, because his mother taught him to only eat meat if you hunt when it is necessary, and any Deity worthy of worship, would prefer an offering that is not blood sacrifice, that is grown from the ground. The cruelty that would result by supporting the captivity of animals to be blood sacrifices or to give humans the pleasure of eating a creature less guilty of sin than them, is not just cruel, but an offering grown from the earth should be a more pleasing offering.

The meaning of the name of the grandfather of Enoch, son of Jared, is the title of the female pagan divinity I felt I was previously told, was the one who favored Cain and prevented him from receiving the death penalty, only because God realized all of heaven knew it wasn't because of jealousy at all, and "Am I my brothers keeper" was something similar to what God said, when he was blamed for murdering Eve , blaming her for the fall over an apple, murdering almost everyone, save for Enoch, son of Cain, who we are told is confused with Enoch, son of Jared.

It was so long ago, very hard to verify who is who, or if both are the same person, or fiction, when both lived before Noah's Ark, which doesn't sound like a true story to have a boat big enough to fit so many animals, feed them, clean their waste products.

Cain killing Abel was done to save his brother from a monster, or out of charity like a mother getting an abortion to save the child getting born without arms, legs, mom, Dad, born into worse poverty than the worst slums, and how hard , hopeless, impossible to grow in virtue in such an environment, or the likelihood of becoming a slave to the wrong master, multiple reasons Cain was very compassionate, and compassion can make a person more likely to kill , than indifference to the suffering of another, compassion being the reason Cain was a farmer , and if an enemy force that has a history of entering the village of a defeated enemy to take away the virgins as sexual slaves who cannot consent, as Yahweh gave men of God permission to do, that could cause a person to murder relativers

(after killing their relatives who are not virgins, take the traumatized virgins whose relatives are dead because your monster God who is perfect, is such a sociopath, put the virgins through more of a nightmare, a lifetime of getting raped by the people who killed mom, dad, brother, sisters whose) a loving parent might show their love by killing as many of those virgins, before they fall into the hands of such monsters.

I know the people I can think of, who I would take a bullet for, or to think of children falling into the hands of those who worship a God (who says they get what they deserve, for loving Idols , which of course is genocide and eternal damnation, for God is a jealous angry God, claiming love and demanding it from people , demanding it is a fault of theirs to not love him, when he has given them every reason to believe there is more excuse for pardoning Sodom and Gomorrah , than for pardoninhg Yahweh, showing that he is further from love than most atheists, shaming and damning those who don't believe him, (telling prophets to not even pray for such people or feel sorry for them , in scripture).

when he could have talked to them, shown them he cares about them, repeatedly refused , or kicked and shamed them for not being what they cannot help but to be, insisting he is perfect, spotless, omnipotent, and clearly showing every sign of that not being possible, compassion says without hesitation , better that they were comfortably euthanized.

I know I would thank my mom for aborting me, if the alternative is to spend an eternity being his idea of perfect, praising the one who is least worthy of praise, who did that to people I knew, or historical figures I cherish, or anyone, or to even be surrounded by people saying such a sicko is pure, holy, love, without blemish, innocent, worth sacrificing anything for,.

to be continued....
When Bible says Sin kill people, does it speak of Spiritually killing them, or it is referring to physical body?
So, when Jesus says, you must eat His blood and flesh, did He mean eating Him physically or He was referring to blood and flesh of His spirit?
 

1213

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I'm not saying it is okay, but I'm saying the motive can be love as well. Cain may have realized that the spirit requiring blood sacrifice was going to divide people, cause wars, divide the city of Babel so groups speak different languages, which causes wars through lack of unity and feeling superior.
Wars are caused by evilness of people, because people lust for power and are greedy. And ultimately all the wars are to make all people one group without freedom. I think the desire of people to control everyone to be like they want them to be is the cause of wars and God did the right thing in preventing the first attempt of one world government and in giving freedom to people. That God is not like tyrannical fascist, as people are, is the reason why I think He is good.
Feeling like his only son dying to pay a debt is necessary if he is omnipotent, and the misery radical monotheist regimes would cause, condemning people to eternal torture, causing so much misery.
That sounds weird, where do you get that idea? I think it would be better, if people would rather have what is actually said in the Bible.
Cyrus the great was a Messiah who demonstrated greater charity, making sure everyone is happy , not letting anyone know if they are his favorite religion, culture, or ethnicity...he worshiped Babylonian Gods...
Why do you believe so?
It may have been Cain saw his brother being lead by a spirit that preaches love, but extremes of sadism, and has a fondness for war, scaring people, making claims that are not true, a frightening Dictator, and Cain knew there were other spirits that were co-creators, helping create the world, female spirits , Divine Mothers, for God created woman in the image of God as well...

He may have simply been like Jacob, preferring the mother God he knew over the Father.
Sorry, I think you make up stuff too much.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
This message (particularly the title) is peculiarly apropos. It sets the writer up as a modern day Cain in many blatant as well as hidden ways. The scripture says God catches the unrighteous man in his wayward ways. Sometimes he does this by hiding the truth just below the surface so that if, say, Cain really was just digging up plants to offer to God, he'd have found the truth there just beneath the surface of the text.

Someone who was really willing to dig just a bit beneath the surface text (the Hebrew rather than the English, the truth rather than the Masoretes) would see, by referencing say Deuteronomy 28:4, that Cain isn't really the vegetarian life-lover he appears to be in the King Jame's English, or the Masoretic Text: he offers the fruit from his loins, his children, and not yams and sunflower seeds.

The offerings in these threads are like that. They come proclaiming a vicious god seen through the eyes and epistemology of a modern day Cain/vegetarian who wouldn't hurt a fly, when the true spirit behind the humanism and good, is the very violence against the good God that's detrimental to, and ends in murder of ---eventually ----one's brothers and sisters. Cain started by offering the fruit of his loins to God, and ended offering up his brother. The scripture says he who hates God hates his brother, and he who secretly hates his brother hates God. Wherever you find hatred and vituperation against God, just a shovel or two beneath the surface you will find the hidden hatred of man and brother that robes itself first, in humanism and moral good, and lastly in the blood of one's brothers and sisters. He who tries to hurt or hunt God, will, when that fails, turn to easier game.

Once there was a spider who wanted to get across a river to hunt greater game. He asked a fly to let him climb on his back and fly him over the river. The fly said you'll bite me and drink my blood. The spider said that would be stupid and self-defeating since then I'd fall in the river and drown. The logic of the spider sounded so sound that the fly said get on board TWA 666. Half way across the river the fly felt the fangs of the spider sink in the heart of its flesh. As they both drown, the fly said why did you do that? Now we're both going to die? The spider said, Sorry, it's just my nature.

The nature of all who would harm God, who hate God, is hidden to them just beneath the soil of their humanism and moral goodness so that they haven't even the honesty of the drowning spider. Which is to say, never let a god-hater use you, or even do you a favor, or you're likely, at some point, to feel the sharpness of his fangs, or the poison come, so to say, from what his pen is. Now, it's directed mostly toward God. When you don't join the party, it will turn on you since whether you know it or not, you're infinitely easier to game than is God. When you see anyone or thing that's contrary to God, be it a spider, man, or both, run the other way if you're wise.




John
I never said the voice I heard was a spirit, but if it was, I never declare that spirits are infallible or telling the truth even if they were miracles... Yahweh prove that the one who works the greatest miracles, can be the most jealous and hypocritical of all of the divinities....

Preaching extremes of love and mercy, to draw in the good, fishing extremes of sadism and the most ridiculous forms of Justice to draw in it the sadist and the biggest and hypocrites, creating division and bloodshed... and regimes like ISIS, resembling regimes found in scripture, they have their roots in the Bible God.

So, Cain could have killed his brother as an act of Mercy rather than see him go down the rout of being enslaved to the baby killer, the cause of war, rape epidemics, the promotion of human trafficking and slavery...

Absolutely, it's maybe an act of kindness to me and everybody rather than become a slave to such a genocidal blood sacrifice deity , repeatedly refuse to respond to reason, better my mother aborted me as a baby...

Since the scriptures have repeatedly proven to be false and moral relativism, only some of them being true, and christians not agreeing on what scripture is, the Bible doesn't tell us which writings are scripture or inspired, nobody actually knows that the Bible is scripture because the scripture does not actually tell you it is.

So, it could lie about Cain's motives being jealousy. It is God who kills out of jealousy more than anyone. ;)

So, if the voice I heard was in theory speaking the truth about the motives of Cain, it was an act of love to prevent a worse evil like when people that loved Old yeller took the dog out and put him out of his misery cuz he was sick with rabies.

Yahweh has proven far more sick than a rabid wolf, far more dangerous, because he can say enough intelligent good things and wear a mask like Ted Bundy, that best people would want their changing it to spend eternity with him.

Ted means "God's gift".

He was actually nicer to women than Yahweh, killing them all and giving all of them who want to be mothers:

birth pains for many centuries where the leading cause of death why they didn't reach the age of 30 on average, death during it petrifying pregnancy, that was caused by Teddy bear, Mr. "I don't give a **** and needed to tempt Eve so I could have the pleasure of killing her.

And get lots of votes and love , fortune, fame, slaves who bend the knee, by pretending that I needed to kill my son to pay a debt, make people feel in debt to me and weep."

A father bear does not care about the cubs, the mother bear fights to the death against something that is twice her size defending them.

If only God wasn't beneath the animals, if only the Bible never killed hope in a mother who isn't about herself, but sacrifices for her children without conditions.

God's claim of perfection, unblemished omnipotence, jealousy, wrath, hypocrisy, is what sickens me.

His example is one of selfishness, self-absorption, turning the other way with a heart of stone as people scream in agony for help, starving for the God who hides, confuses, divides.

I eagerly await rehabilitation for the sicko, because I am sick, and couldn't do to my worst enemy, what he threatens to do to Anne frank, for not accepting Jesus, and getting saved like Saint Jeffry Dahmer.

I who am sick, so healthy in comparison, if compassion and not intentionally harming people is healthy. ;)
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
I never said the voice I heard was a spirit, but if it was, I never declare that spirits are infallible or telling the truth even if they were miracles... Yahweh prove that the one who works the greatest miracles, can be the most jealous and hypocritical of all of the divinities....

Preaching extremes of love and mercy, to draw in the good, fishing extremes of sadism and the most ridiculous forms of Justice to draw in it the sadist and the biggest and hypocrites, creating division and bloodshed... and regimes like ISIS, resembling regimes found in scripture, they have their roots in the Bible God.

So, Cain could have killed his brother as an act of Mercy rather than see him go down the rout of being enslaved to the baby killer, the cause of war, rape epidemics, the promotion of human trafficking and slavery...

Absolutely, it's maybe an act of kindness to me and everybody rather than become a slave to such a genocidal blood sacrifice deity , repeatedly refuse to respond to reason, better my mother aborted me as a baby...

Since the scriptures have repeatedly proven to be false and moral relativism, only some of them being true, and christians not agreeing on what scripture is, the Bible doesn't tell us which writings are scripture or inspired, nobody actually knows that the Bible is scripture because the scripture does not actually tell you it is.

So, it could lie about Cain's motives being jealousy. It is God who kills out of jealousy more than anyone. ;)

So, if the voice I heard was in theory speaking the truth about the motives of Cain, it was an act of love to prevent a worse evil like when people that loved Old yeller took the dog out and put him out of his misery cuz he was sick with rabies.

Yahweh has proven far more sick than a rabid wolf, far more dangerous, because he can say enough intelligent good things and wear a mask like Ted Bundy, that best people would want their changing it to spend eternity with him.

Ted means "God's gift".

He was actually nicer to women than Yahweh, killing them all and giving all of them who want to be mothers:

birth pains for many centuries where the leading cause of death why they didn't reach the age of 30 on average, death during it petrifying pregnancy, that was caused by Teddy bear, Mr. "I don't give a **** and needed to tempt Eve so I could have the pleasure of killing her.

And get lots of votes and love , fortune, fame, slaves who bend the knee, by pretending that I needed to kill my son to pay a debt, make people feel in debt to me and weep."

A father bear does not care about the cubs, the mother bear fights to the death against something that is twice her size defending them.

If only God wasn't beneath the animals, if only the Bible never killed hope in a mother who isn't about herself, but sacrifices for her children without conditions.

God's claim of perfection, unblemished omnipotence, jealousy, wrath, hypocrisy, is what sickens me.

His example is one of selfishness, self-absorption, turning the other way with a heart of stone as people scream in agony for help, starving for the God who hides, confuses, divides.

I eagerly await rehabilitation for the sicko, because I am sick, and couldn't do to my worst enemy, what he threatens to do to Anne frank, for not accepting Jesus, and getting saved like Saint Jeffry Dahmer.

I who am sick, so healthy in comparison, if compassion and not intentionally harming people is healthy. ;)

. . . As I repeatedly concede, there's more than a modicum of truth to much of what you write. There's a serious, historical, undergirding of actuality, to most of your arguments.

When I was four or five, I saw things through a prism colored very similar to the threads you start. And though I don't really know how much of your writing is heart-felt vs. how much is for shocking effect, in my early youth it was all heart-felt. It was only when in my early teens that I accepted Christ as my savior that all the stuff you note began to be seen through a different lens.

What you write is, was, still true (after my salvation) it's just that now I realized that without Christ there is, was, no hope or explanation for how a demonic god could be running and ruining a planet (or cosmos)? How could the "good" God allow such evil and suffering to take place?

For me, the Gospel not only answered that question (and Jesus endured the hardest lashes of the god of this world), but it counciled me to be patient, and, in the words of King David: trust is the good God with all your heart and look not on the things of the world but in all things trust Him and he will guide your path. Faith and patient endurance is the ointment I slather on the wounds when this world treats me in all the ways you so ably document.




John
 
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