Do you want me to create God or destroy God?

[james blunt]

Why do you think that you have this power?

Think? I do not think I am live

 

[Polymath257]

mmmmmkay

I'd *really* suggest counseling.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Supposing I tell you that you have only existed since the moment you woke up today , all your memories of yesterday an implant of information that you think is real because I programmed it to be real . How can you confirm you were alive yesterday ?

By the bills I get in the mail.

 

[james blunt]

By the bills I get in the mail.

All created fresh this morning , the mail man or women already implanted with the days commands.

 

[Polymath257]

Supposing I tell you that you have only existed since the moment you woke up today , all your memories of yesterday an implant of information that you think is real because I programmed it to be real . How can you confirm you were alive yesterday ?

Right. We cannot know we are not brains in a vat. We cannot disprove Last Thursdayism. We cannot know that all we experience is not an illusion.

But the reasonable course of action is to use our experiences and our reasoning to decide what is most *likely* to be the case and how we want to act given our possibilities.

 

[SalixIncendium]

All created fresh this morning , the mail man or women already implanted with the days commands.

Well, I guess if I didn't incur the debt, I don't have to pay them.

Thanks, @Sustainer! You just saved me a ton of money!



But seriously, I weigh the evidence and base my theories and beliefs on probability. I have evidence everywhere that I was alive yesterday, much more evidence than you have that my memories were implanted and that my bills were staged by postal conspirators. So which one is more probable, and which should I believe since I have 'proof' of neither?

 

[james blunt]

Right. We cannot know we are not brains in a vat. We cannot disprove Last Thursdayism. We cannot know that all we experience is not an illusion.

But the reasonable course of action is to use our experiences and our reasoning to decide what is most *likely* to be the case and how we want to act given our possibilities.

I consider that my ten years plus of posting on forums is proof of ''yesterday'' exists outside of me, logically I can view it onscreen. Do you think that is hard evidence I exist everyday ?

 

[james blunt]

Well, I guess if I didn't incur the debt, I don't have to pay them.

Thanks, @Sustainer! You just saved me a ton of money!



But seriously, I weigh the evidence and base my theories and beliefs on probability. I have evidence everywhere that I was alive yesterday, much more evidence than you have that my memories were implanted and that my bills were staged by postal conspirators. So which one is more probable, and which should I believe since I have 'proof' of neither?

How do you know that you do not exist outside of this VR program? How do you know we are not stuck in this program by a machine malfunction ?

Lets face it , the Universe is a time loop, it starts from nothing, increases in entropy , enphalpic inflation to a point of nothing existing again, then it starts all over again from nothing.

 

[SalixIncendium]

How do you know that you do not exist outside of this VR program? How do you know we are not stuck in this program by a machine malfunction ?

*smiles* Clearly you know very little about my beliefs.

And why would you assume temporal existence is a "malfunction?"

Lets face it , the Universe is a time loop, it starts from nothing, increases in entropy , enphalpic inflation to a point of nothing existing again, then it starts all over again from nothing.

Let's see your evidence.

 

[sealchan]

Either way I am not bothered, God or no God I still die anyway.......

This is a particularly interesting post coming from one named sustainer...

Now you can change your name to Trimurti...

 

[james blunt]

*smiles* Clearly you know very little about my beliefs.

And why would you assume temporal existence is a "malfunction?"



Let's see your evidence.

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So m1 can expand itself out of existence by increased enthalpic deflation.of gravity.

 

[james blunt]

This is a particularly interesting post coming from one named sustainer...

Now you can change your name to Trimurti...

I care if other people die...

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What do we know really?

I could give you several different versions of reality , each one having premise , so what do we really know ?

I know nothing.

I believe when we know ourselves, our values, beliefs, nature and can define them, we shape reality as we only it. We cant look through other peoples shoes.

I also believe there is no god, no universal purpose, no one known personality embedded in the universe. I belive we were born, live, and we die.

So reality is about life and death. Reality is not eternal
If you want to find reality, in my view, dont try to find a universal one. You can only get to know yourself.

Dont depend on others for answers they wont experiece. Their just giving you advice. We dont know if we will die before or after our loved ones. We just know we cant them with us.

I can go on, but find your values, beliefs, and nature. Try not to depend on the outside to define these thing As you, instead of seeing them as advice you dont Need to take. Dont take advantage of death, because we cant take anything nor one with us.

It starts with you.

 

[sealchan]

I am blaming God for the fact that we die , I am blaming God for the suffering and mental torment we experience. I am blaming my own failure to God , because I was never blessed with Gods ''luck''.
I have worked hard in the past yet I got nowhere , I own nothing, I even had to sell my only possession of my electric bike today to survive in life.

Why did God let people own the Earth

so many why's I could say

It is okay to be angry with God and to set Him aside. Only children fear to do this.

Whether it is your failure to understand God or Gods failure in you, He rightfully gets some of the blame.

But it is also too easy to suffer in one's failures...there is more lily in each of us than we can often appreciate.

 

[sealchan]

I care if other people die...

I think that death is not quite the evil that many argue it is...it is more our greatest source of fear. Focusing on death itself might distract one from a closer to home fear one might have. A string of failures is a story of effort that is heroic compared to those who have tried only a few times to get their great success or did not have to try at all.

The sweetness of life comes as much from its opposite. The experience of success can leave it's achiever feeling dissatisfied. Finding what your soul truly needs is the only measure of success worth your time and effort.

 

[SalixIncendium]

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So m1 can expand itself out of existence by increased enthalpic deflation.of gravity.

I'll just file this in my cool story box.

We can be done now.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Why do you think that you have this power?

Taking a guess, I'd say he is pointing to the fact that he has this power over his own inclusion/exclusion of God is his life. And he is, more or less, correct in that. People personally create or destroy their mental acceptance of god(s) every day. Objectively this is not any real "power", but there's really not much reason he can't claim the power over his own, subjective experience.

 

[Polymath257]

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So m1 can expand itself out of existence by increased enthalpic deflation.of gravity.

How is nonsense evidence?

 

[james blunt]

How is nonsense evidence?

You say it is nonsense because you can't read it?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

You say it is nonsense because you can't read it?

Are you saying you’ve solved the equation for the theory of everything,
Thus eliminating God?