Do you want that all this should happen ? or Not ?

[Willamena]

God did it, or whosoever did it, or whatsoever is the prime cause of this whole existence/universe that we can see all around us, that is not the question of this thread. The question is.. Do you want that all this should happen ? or Not ?

Lets see, what the majority of people say/want

It's pretty, I'll give it that.

 

[Ingledsva]

That is Okay.
But what you want ?
It would have happened, or It would't have happened at all ?

I don't know what you are asking?

We evolved to what we are right now. No choice.

We are here, make the best of your life.


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[YmirGF]

Talking like a God ?

I outgrew the need for a god concept quite awhile back, Chinu. At a certain stage our old concepts of god just melt away in the light.

Okay, when will all your work finish here ? tell me.

When I believe there is nothing left for me here. Until that day... or night... or until I no longer have the strength to carry on. Whichever comes first.

 

[Adstar]

Why it was needed to happen ?
Am very curious, to know this very mysterious thing

Well God was having this big problem with the Cherub Angel called lucifer. See this Angel started to claim that He should be God and that all the Angels could be gods too. Of course only God can be God... lucifer and the other Angels are not capable of being gods. So God made a stage where this great controversy could be tested out. Lucifer took the challenge (bait) and had a go at sabotaging creation so as to show all the Angels that God was nothing special and that his little project called the universe was a failure. lucifer thought he had succeeded when he conned humans into taking on the knowledge of good and evil but God knew what lucifer (now known as satan) was going to do all along and had a plan to reconcile and restore His creation and thus showing the Heavenly Host that indeed God was the only one capable of being God and why satan's claim to goodhood was false. God 1 - 0 satan God wins.. All that is left now is for the final stages of the plan to be finished before God Redeems those in creation who choose Him over that eternal looser satan.

There you go, Your Mystery is no longer a Mystery

 

[Norrin-6-]

Hi chinu! Thank you for stopping by.

Learning a language is a long and sometimes arduous road. I am learning a language also.

To answer your question, I am glad that I exist but very lucky to have been born in a free and prosperous country. My existence might have been much more miserable than it is. Of course, even the poorest and least free among us have found reasons to smile, and so it makes living all the more better I believe. Because of this I say yes, I want this!

 

[Disposable member]

Yes, I'm happy to exist and to be part of the wonderful Cosmos. I think we chose to be born, actually.

 

[psychoslice]

I like it just the way it is, its better to know the devil you know, if it was any different, well who knows what it would be like.

 

[Ingledsva]

Well God was having this big problem with the Cherub Angel called lucifer. See this Angel started to claim that He should be God and that all the Angels could be gods too. Of course only God can be God... lucifer and the other Angels are not capable of being gods. So God made a stage where this great controversy could be tested out. Lucifer took the challenge (bait) and had a go at sabotaging creation so as to show all the Angels that God was nothing special and that his little project called the universe was a failure. lucifer thought he had succeeded when he conned humans into taking on the knowledge of good and evil but God knew what lucifer (now known as satan) was going to do all along and had a plan to reconcile and restore His creation and thus showing the Heavenly Host that indeed God was the only one capable of being God and why satan's claim to goodhood was false. God 1 - 0 satan God wins.. All that is left now is for the final stages of the plan to be finished before God Redeems those in creation who choose Him over that eternal looser satan.

There you go, Your Mystery is no longer a Mystery

In Tanakh, Satan was a servant of YHVH; and there is no Lucifer in the Bible.


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[Adstar]

In Tanakh, Satan was a servant of YHVH; and there is no Lucifer in the Bible.


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1) I do not believe the tanakh is the inspired word of God.

2) Bible quote KJV
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

 

[Gnostic Seeker]

1) I do not believe the tanakh is the inspired word of God.

2) Bible quote KJV
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

So where is the name Lucifer in the Greek or Hebrew there? I know the Septuagint uses Phosphoros, which is morning star.

 

[Ingledsva]

1) I do not believe the tanakh is the inspired word of God.

ING - Nor do I consider the Bible the word of God.

2) Bible quote KJV
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

There is actually NO Lucifer in Isaiah, not even the word. It is talking about a King of Babylon.


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[chinu]

I've had a pretty good life so far. My childhood was so great, no regrets. Even the very difficult things that have happened have a sort of substance to them that make me feel grateful for them too.
Im still pretty attached to the people and things I love, but I have a lot of interludes where im ready for it to end. Things, maintaining and living in a solid environment is stressful. Im tired of that. It's been a pretty good ride, but now im tired of doing and being a person. I suppose that will cease when attachment is finally, fully relinquished. My person is waning.

So, it happened, but now your tired.
But, would you want it happen in the first place (if that would be the option) ?

 

[chinu]

Yes I think our existence is better than our non-existence.

And I have to believe it's a good thing as it was all created by consciousness so far above our physical consciousness's imagination.

But, what make it Good ?

 

[chinu]

Happened, lived most of it, do not regret it. Should it have happened - I think, yes. Can't blame my parents for bringing me to this world, because I did the same and enjoyed it, so also did my children. If I had not done it, would it have changed the world?

loll, am talking about the existence in very first place. Neither your parents. or the parents of your parents , or their parents. Wouldn't it be more good if all this wouldn't have existed at all ?

 

[chinu]

We evolved to what we are right now. No choice.

Just imagine if would have a choice.

 

[chinu]

Hi chinu! Thank you for stopping by.

Learning a language is a long and sometimes arduous road. I am learning a language also.

To answer your question, I am glad that I exist but very lucky to have been born in a free and prosperous country. My existence might have been much more miserable than it is. Of course, even the poorest and least free among us have found reasons to smile, and so it makes living all the more better I believe. Because of this I say yes, I want this!

" Neither there would be any bamboo, nor there would any sound of flute "
Or say.. Neither there would be any existence, nor there would things like sufferings, poverty, sickness etc.

Would it be more good if everything would't have existed at all in the first place ?

 

[chinu]

Yes, I'm happy to exist and to be part of the wonderful Cosmos. I think we chose to be born, actually.

Don't you think that you have made a mistake by choosing it ?
" Neither there would be any bamboo, nor there would any sound of flute "
Or say another way.. Neither there would be any existence, nor there would things like sufferings, poverty, sickness etc. Would it be more good if everything would't have existed at all in the first place ?

 

[chinu]

I like it just the way it is, its better to know the devil you know, if it was any different, well who knows what it would be like.

After all, what pleasure is there in knowing all this ?
" Neither there would be any bamboo, nor there would any sound of flute "
Or say it another way.. Neither there would be any existence, nor there would any devil etc.

 

[Aupmanyav]

loll, am talking about the existence in very first place. Neither your parents. or the parents of your parents , or their parents. Wouldn't it be more good if all this wouldn't have existed at all ?

Existence is perhaps no different from non-existence. It is an illusion. So, you are asking whether the illusion is good or bad. The reading of the illusion will depend on one who reads it. For some, good; for others, bad.

 

[chinu]

Existence is perhaps no different from non-existence. It is an illusion. So, you are asking whether the illusion is good or bad. The reading of the illusion will depend on one who reads it. For some, good; for others, bad.

What if, neither illusion, nor.. non-illusion wouldn't have existed at all ? wouldn't then it be more good ?
" Neither there would be any bamboo, nor there would be any sound of flute "