Does any supernatural god exist?

[Aupmanyav]

On top of that you have the entire writing of the Bible which happened over centuries by dozens of authors all making a seamless story is more verification for me.

Bible is not all that seemless. J. K. Rolling wrote a better seemless story in Harry Potter.

 

[Aupmanyav]

And having realized non-duality, you are asserting that many of those from the non-Vedic tradition who also realized this same non-dual state through their relevant cultural religious practice and whose language refers to this same non-dual state as God, or Tao or Nirvana, etc., have not because of the name they use to describe it. Now it is true that not all souls who claim or have imagined themselves to have realized non-duality have actually realized it, but that does not affect the name. It is called Non-duality, Enlightenment, God, Nirvana, Tao, etc., based on the different culture, check out the name for the Sun in these same different cultures and you will find also different names.

I have never done that. I have not studied about Tao/Dao, but I respect it because what little I have heard about it.
As for Buddha, he is one of my gurus, the other is Sankaracharya. I have learnt much from Buddha, though I have differences of views with both my gurus.
Don't say 'souls'. You have no evidence for existence of 'soul'. Say persons. Same for 'God'. What evidence do you have for its existence?
Enlightenment, nirvana, moksha mean understanding with no more unanswered questions.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I have never done that. I have not studied about Tao/Dao, but I respect it because what little I have heard about it.
As for Buddha, he is one of my gurus, the other is Sankaracharya. I have learnt much from Buddha, though I have differences of views with both my gurus.
Don't say 'souls'. You have no evidence for existence of 'soul'. Say persons. Same for 'God'. What evidence do you have for its existence?
Enlightenment, nirvana, moksha mean understanding with no more unanswered questions.

The experience of non-duality is my evidence for Brahman/God, Tao, Nirvana, Soul/Atman, Etc.. Now I trust you understand that non-duality is just that, non-dual, so there is no 'me and non-duality', there is only a state of union that exists as non-duality. Now when duality returns and my ego self-awareness is present again, there is a memory of the non-dual state that cannot exist when the ego self is present.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

The experience of non-duality is my evidence for Brahman/God, Tao, Nirvana, Soul/Atman, Etc.. Now I trust you understand that non-duality is just that, non-dual, so there is no 'me and non-duality', there is only a state of union that exists as non-duality. Now when duality returns and my ego self-awareness is present again, there is a memory of the non-dual state that cannot exist when the ego self is present.

The experince of non-duality has no evidence in the world of ego self, because the ego self makes it so that it can't be known if non-duality exist.
That is what you say as an ego self in your ego self text.

 

[Charles Philips]

Wow! That's a huge miracle! I love your explanation Sun and planets can not stop moving, but earth can..
Actually if Earth stopped moving, the armies as well as everybody else would be dead.
Big tsunamis can happen with slight earth movement from regional earthquakes. Imagine the whole earth spinning at 1000miles/hour and stopping suddenly.

All of that would be true if God was bound by your laws, but sadly for you He doesn't care about your laws and opinions. You're nothing mor than an insignificant speck of cosmic dust in His sight.
He plays by His own rules, and He makes them up to suit Himself at anytime and the entire universe is in the palm of His hand. He plays with it like a kid plays with sand on the beach.

You have no authority to tell God what He can and can't do, as every speck of dust in the entire universe is subject to His will.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

The experince of non-duality has no evidence in the world of ego self, because the ego self makes it so that it can't be known if non-duality exist.
That is what you say as an ego self in your ego self text.

I'm not sure of your point, you seem to be saying precisely what I explained, there is no empirical evidence. But that's irrelevant to the one who already has evidence, who has realized Non-duality, but for those who are still spiritually/non-duality ignorant, they must learn to devote their life to the goal of Non-dualty/God/Nivana/Tao/Etc., in order to find the evidence for themselves.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I'm not sure of your point, you seem to be saying precisely what I explained, there is no empirical evidence. But that's irrelevant to the one who already has evidence, who has realized Non-duality, but for those who are still spiritually/non-duality ignorant, they must learn to devote their life to the goal of Non-dualty/God/Nivana/Tao/Etc., in order to find the evidence for themselves.

Yeah, according to your own text you can't know non-duality as oneself, themselves.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

All of that would be true if God was bound by your laws, but sadly for you He doesn't care about your laws and opinions. You're nothing mor than an insignificant speck of cosmic dust in His sight.
He plays by His own rules, and He makes them up to suit Himself at anytime and the entire universe is in the palm of His hand. He plays with it like a kid plays with sand on the beach.

You have no authority to tell God what He can and can't do, as every speck of dust in the entire universe is subject to His will.

Yeah, you are surely special.

 

[Ajax]

The Bible completely agrees with itself. The fact that people choose to interpret it differently isn’t the fault of the Bible.Yes

It's not a matter of interpretation. The Bible describes how John the Baptist welcomed Jesus for the baptism, also all the "wonderful things" that happened with God's voice adopting Jesus and the Holy Spirit descending....but a few months later, John does not know who Jesus is and questions him, as if had never met him. Utterly ridiculous!

The Bible tells us absolutely clearly what it takes to get into Heaven and if the Jews choose not to follow that then the consequences are also very clearly defined.

Absolutely false!! Getting to heaven is an unsolved puzzle in Christianity!
The Bible tells you a) you are saved by works, as per Jesus (Mat 5:17, 7-21) b) saved by faith alone, no works are needed (Rom 3:28, Eph 2:8-9) and c) by predestination (Rom 8:29, Eph 1:4, Acts 13:48, 1 Peter 1:2)

Furthermore, Jewish Torah had been studied for centuries by Jews before Christianity emerged and suddenly Christians believed that they can teach Jews what Torah is... Unbelievable!!
Christianity took irrelevant text from Torah and dishonestly converted it to prophecies for Jesus (see suffering servant, virgin birth, trip to Egypt, etc). Do you have any idea who the servant is? Do you know the Torah requirements for Messiah?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Yeah, according to your own text you can't know non-duality as oneself, themselves.

Hmmm, well you can in the sense of your memory. of it. It is similar to the memory of a dream When you are asleep and have a dream, your brainwaves are in the Theta state, the ego self awake state Alpha and Beta brain waves are not present. When you wake up, the ego self is present again and remembers the dream, but it was not present during the dream.
And likewise, there can not be empirical evidence that you had the dream you claim, but you know you did,

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Hmmm, well you can in the sense of your memory. of it. It is similar to the memory of a dream When you are asleep and have a dream, your brainwaves are in the Theta state, the ego self awake state Alpha and Beta brain waves are not present. When you wake up, the ego self is present again and remembers the dream, but it was not present during the dream.

Well, you don't know as an ego self if the menory is correct. So you can't know if there is non-duality.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Well, you don't know as an ego self if the menory is correct. So you can't know if there is non-duality.

Well are you also saying that since you don't know as an ego self if the memory of your dream is correct, so you can't know if there was a dream?

 

[Ajax]

All of that would be true if God was bound by your laws, but sadly for you He doesn't care about your laws and opinions. You're nothing mor than an insignificant speck of cosmic dust in His sight.
He plays by His own rules, and He makes them up to suit Himself at anytime and the entire universe is in the palm of His hand. He plays with it like a kid plays with sand on the beach.

You have no authority to tell God what He can and can't do, as every speck of dust in the entire universe is subject to His will.

Before you write all this, which I personally consider it nonsense, shouldn't you first show some evidence of your writings?
Even if you use the Bible (despite being circular reasoning).
For example, can God be sorry for something he did?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well are you also saying that since you don't know as an ego self if the memory of your dream is correct, so you can't know if there was a dream?

No, you can know the content of the dream. You just can't know if it matches anything other than being a dream when it comes to non-duality.

 

[Charles Philips]

That you are an elect saint of God?

I'd say I had questions rather than issues at this stage.

First, what entity with objective existence (ie found in nature, the world external to the self, which we know about through our senses) do you intend to denote when you say "God"? Please describe this entity sufficiently so that if we find a real suspect we'll be able to determine whether it's God or not.

Or does God only exist as a concept, notion, thing imagined in individual brains?

Second, what is an "elect saint of God"?

Third, what objective test will let us determine whether any particular person is an "elect saint of God" or not?

God exists as One Triune God Head, in Three Persons. That being the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God only reveals Himself to his Elect Saints, He doesn't reveal Himself to rest of humanity. So, only the His Elect know Him and have an intimate relationship with Him.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but He has hidden Himself from you if you're not one of His elect Saints. The only time the non elect get to meet His is just before He castes them into hell.

God chose to save a number of people for Himself, before He created the world. Our names are written in His book, the rest of humanity will be condemned because everyone sinned and God must cast them into hell just as a judge passes the death penalty to criminals.

The Elect Saints of God, don't have any marks on our bodies, whereby you can identify us. We do have the seal of God on our foreheads, which can only be seen by those who live in the spiritual realm. They are the Angels, both good and evil Angels can see who's child each person is. The children 0f the Devil have the mark of the beast on their foreheads and Gods children have the seal of God on our foreheads.

Men can distinguish between the two kinds of people, by the way each lives. The Devils children do their fathers will, which is to kill, steal, destroy, lie, cheat, abuse drugs and alcohol, live sexually immoral rebellious lives. It's plain to see, nobody can hide who they are. You can identify Gods children because they don't live to fulfill the lust of the flesh. We live to serve and glorify God in everything we do, and that's the opposite of what the Devils children do.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

No, you can know the content of the dream. You just can't know if it matches anything other than being a dream when it comes to non-duality.

I do not understand you, the state of non-duality can be realized quite easily after many years of practice, it is so awesome that there are no words to describe it, glorious beyond words!

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I do not understand you, the state of non-duality can be realized quite easily after many years of practice, it is so awesome that there are no words to describe it, glorious beyond words!

Well, it is no certain that it is non-duality as for all of reality. It could also just be your local limited experince for a limited time and space.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

God exists as One Triune God Head, in Three Persons. That being the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. God only reveals Himself to his Elect Saints, He doesn't reveal Himself to rest of humanity. So, only the His Elect know Him and have an intimate relationship with Him.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but He has hidden Himself from you if you're not one of His elect Saints. The only time the non elect get to meet His is just before He castes them into hell.

God chose to save a number of people for Himself, before He created the world. Our names are written in His book, the rest of humanity will be condemned because everyone sinned and God must cast them into hell just as a judge passes the death penalty to criminals.

The Elect Saints of God, don't have any marks on our bodies, whereby you can identify us. We do have the seal of God on our foreheads, which can only be seen by those who live in the spiritual realm. They are the Angels, both good and evil Angels can see who's child each person is. The children 0f the Devil have the mark of the beast on their foreheads and Gods children have the seal of God on our foreheads.

Men can distinguish between the two kinds of people, by the way each lives. The Devils children do their fathers will, which is to kill, steal, destroy, lie, cheat, abuse drugs and alcohol, live sexually immoral rebellious lives. It's plain to see, nobody can hide who they are. You can identify Gods children because they don't live to fulfill the lust of the flesh. We live to serve and glorify God in everything we do, and that's the opposite of what the Devils children do.

Yeah, I hope you cope well enough in the everyday world.

 

[Charles Philips]

Nope. Christianity does however belong on the same shelf with all the other gods at that time.

I've never heard of such a shelf, is that another one of those things that only exists in you fantasy? or do you have some tangible evidence for it's existence

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Well, it is no certain that it is non-duality as for all of reality. It could also just be your local limited experince for a limited time and space.

You do not know, you have not realized non-duality, all you can do is speculate.