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Does any supernatural god exist?

Does any supernatural god exist?

  • Certainly

    Votes: 14 34.1%

  • Certainly not

    Votes: 9 22.0%

  • Certainly don't know

    Votes: 18 43.9%
  • Total voters
    41
Ajax

Ajax

Active Member
Charles Philips said:
But sadly for you, I get the last laugh as nobody has found a single error in the entire bible
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This is the joke of the millennium. Just two little bits...

1) Who created the waters? Because they were in existence before the creation. (Genesis 1:2)
2) God is omnipotent. Why is he unable then to overcome iron chariots? (Judges 1:19)

There are hundreds, if not thousands of errors in the Bible. Open a new thread if you dare and start counting...
 
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Charles Philips

Banned
Ajax said:
Everyone thinks they know the real truth and everybody else is deluded... Corrected!

Bollocks... Everybody with a brain can discuss meaningfully about any subject, especially if one has studied it, like me.

I was a Christian before, so I studied the Bible with a Christian mind and slowly became.. agnostic. So your claim is totally invalid.

But you didn't answer my question on you claim that...

Are you one of his Elect Saints?
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Yes I am an Elect Saint of God, He chose me before He created the world. And no, there's no such thing as a former Christian. But there are plenty of self deceived people who think they may have been a Christian at one time. if you really did study the bible you would know the bible teaches these things
 
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Charles Philips

Banned
Ajax said:
This is the joke of the millennium. Just two little bits...

1) Who created the waters? Because they were in existence before the creation. (Genesis 1:2)
2) God is omnipotent. Why is he unable then to overcome iron chariots? (Judges 1:19)

There are hundreds, if not thousands of errors in the Bible. Open a new thread if you dare and start counting...
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Yep, I'll get around to starting a thread and offering my house to anyone who finds a single error in the entire bible. All you did there was expose your lack of bible knowledge
 
Ajax

Ajax

Active Member
Tinkerpeach said:
There are no errors in the Bible, only your interpretations of the content is in error.
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:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Would you like to start counting? First you must tell me your denomination though...

I have posted this today to another thread...
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." Exodus 21:20-21
"As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. 45 You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you and from their families who are with you who have been born in your land; they may be your property. 46 You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness." Lev 25:44-46

My question is simple. Do theists agree with these the verses, or not?
And does God appear to be promoting the totally immoral and now illegal act of slavery?

We humans are better than your God of the OT.
In fact slave owners were quoting these verses to justify slavery..:facepalm:
 
Bear Wild

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Tinkerpeach said:
There are no errors in the Bible, only your interpretations of the content is in error.
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There are no errors to its followers because it is their mythology. It their truth in relationship to their world in the same way that the Celtic and Norse mythology does not have errors except where Christians corrupted it. The Celtic and Norse mythology are truth to those that follow it. Applying the mythology to explain mechanism of change in species is to completely misunderstand what the bible is saying. To imply that the bible is the only true way for everyone is pure arrogance. He is the creator to the people who follow that path. He did not create the world I live in for my mythology tells me the world was created by the natural forces that shape everything.
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Bear Wild said:
There are no errors to its followers because it is their mythology. It their truth in relationship to their world in the same way that the Celtic and Norse mythology does not have errors except where Christians corrupted it. The Celtic and Norse mythology are truth to those that follow it. Applying the mythology to explain mechanism of change in species is to completely misunderstand what the bible is saying. To imply that the bible is the only true way for everyone is pure arrogance. He is the creator to the people who follow that path. He did not create the world I live in for my mythology tells me the world was created by the natural forces that shape everything.
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Hardly mythology.

Even the existence of Jesus is supported by non-religious text.

You don’t find that with the Celtic Gods.
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Ajax said:
:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing: Would you like to start counting? First you must tell me your denomination though...

I have posted this today to another thread...
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property." Exodus 21:20-21
"As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. 45 You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you and from their families who are with you who have been born in your land; they may be your property. 46 You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness." Lev 25:44-46

My question is simple. Do theists agree with these the verses, or not?
And does God appear to be promoting the totally immoral and now illegal act of slavery?

We humans are better than your God of the OT.
In fact slave owners were quoting these verses to justify slavery..:facepalm:
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You haven’t pointed out an error with the Bible. You are pointing out a moral issue with it.
 
Ajax

Ajax

Active Member
Tinkerpeach said:
You haven’t pointed out an error with the Bible. You are pointing out a moral issue with it.
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Not a moral issue alone. God was very wrong in dictating that slavery is acceptable, and this is an error of the Bible. You can not have a omniscient, omnipotent and just God, who doesn't know that slavery is immoral.

See also my previous message..

Christianity claims that Jesus supposedly died because someone had to pay for our sins..
Deuteronomy 24:16 "a person shall be put to death for his own sin."
Ezekiel 18:20 "The soul who sins is the one who will die."

Paul teaches...
a) By works..."13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified." Romans 2:13

b) By faith alone "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast." Eph 2:8-9 ( Remind you that Jesus said in Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ (thus having faith in me) will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.")

c) Predestined.. "even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him." Eph 1:4

Which one of the three is correct and which two are errors?
I have another 27 pages or errors, contradictions, falsehoods and fictitious stories..Just keep patient...
 
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Bear Wild

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Tinkerpeach said:
Hardly mythology.

Even the existence of Jesus is supported by non-religious text.

You don’t find that with the Celtic Gods.
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There were kings of the Celtic and Norse lands who were real and documented who claim to be descended from the gods. That is just about as supportive as the fact that Jesus existed as god.

Your religion is based on mythology just as mine. Yours is not superior or inferior. It is correct for you. Mythology is not fiction it is truth about relationship to the sacred.
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Bear Wild said:
There were kings of the Celtic and Norse lands who were real and documented who claim to be descended from the gods. That is just about as supportive as the fact that Jesus existed as god.

Your religion is based on mythology just as mine. Yours is not superior or inferior. It is correct for you. Mythology is not fiction it is truth about relationship to the sacred.
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If that is what you choose to believe.
 
Tinkerpeach

Tinkerpeach

Active Member
Ajax said:
Not a moral issue alone. God was very wrong in dictating that slavery is acceptable, and this is an error of the Bible. You can not have a omniscient, omnipotent and just God, who doesn't know that slavery is immoral.

See also my previous message..

Christianity claims that Jesus supposedly died because someone had to pay for our sins..
Deuteronomy 24:16 "a person shall be put to death for his own sin."
Ezekiel 18:20 "The soul who sins is the one who will die."

Paul teaches...
a) By works..."13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified." Romans 2:13

b) By faith alone "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast." Eph 2:8-9 ( Remind you that Jesus said in Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ (thus having faith in me) will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.")

c) Predestined.. "even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him." Eph 1:4

Which one of the three is correct and which two are errors?
I have another 27 pages or errors, contradictions, falsehoods and fictitious stories..Just keep patient...
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It’s not an error.

If that’s what God believes it is a correct statement.

To say that slave owners in the south is an error would be false because they did.

Whether that is right or wrong is a moral judgement and God does not follow our morals any more than you would follow an ants.
 
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