Does any supernatural god exist?

[Ajax]

It’s what the Bible says which automatically invalidates what anyone else says.

As I said before, if you just believe whatever is written in the Bible, without understanding or trying to evaluate how these things could happen, then you appear to lack cognitive ability on this subject, and therefore you can not judge whether the Bible contains errors or not.

And as David Hume (paraphrased) said..."What is more likely, that the laws of the universe changed for a day, or that an unknown Jew wrote a lie?"

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

As I said before, if you just believe whatever is written in the Bible, without understanding or trying to evaluate how these things could happen, then you lack cognitive ability on this subject, and therefore you can not judge whether the Bible contains errors or not.

Yeah, but in general that is about skepticism and critical thinking and that is not limited to religion. Or even bots.

 

[Kaynat tareen]

I am an universal strong skeptic. I doubt and what is left, is what I believe in.
So I don't believe in the natural nor supernatural as an example.

Then you just have to look at yourself that you were born without the creator look at your parents they were born without any creator??
There are many signs in your own personality to believe about the existence of God but you just ignored these all just because you only have one god that is your heart(even aethiests also have a god and that is their own heart) and you heard your heart everytime because A man heard and do the same from the one who is valuable to him so your God is your heart and our God is Allah.Stay blessed and May The God gives you the knowledge of right path!!

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Then you just have to look at yourself that you were born without the creator look at your parents they were born without any creator??
There are many signs in your own personality to believe about the existence of God but you just ignored these all just because you only have one god that is your heart(even aethiests also have a god and that is their own heart) and you heard your heart everytime because A man heard and do the same from the one who is valuable to him so your God is your heart and our God is Allah.Stay blessed and May The God gives you the knowledge of right path!!

Again welcome here. I was taught this differently than you and learn not to use my heart, but my brain.

 

[Aupmanyav]

(Comment on Charles Phillip's post) Sun and planets can not stop moving, but earth can..

All three and the moon must stop to give us the extension of the day.
But could not God have a two-day war? That would not have required the stoppage of the solar system in its tracks.
All change and power is with Allah (lā ḥawla wa-lā quwwata ʾillā bi-llāh)

 

[Twilight Hue]

OK, so you believe in hose mystical non existent pagan gods. Got ya

Nope. Christianity does however belong on the same shelf with all the other gods at that time.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Then you just have to look at yourself that you were born without the creator look at your parents they were born without any creator??

God had nothing to do with my birth. Only my parents, and the lady doctor and her team were involved (I do not remember her name with certainty, Dr. Daya, perhaps. I have seen the hospital room where I was born). I am not a Jesus to have been breathed-in. Same with my parents.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

The Bible does not say they refused the money - you are making that up



The Bible does not say that they bought the land in judas' name at all - you are making that up as well

It seems you think the Bible is infallible, but I do think it's interesting that you keep grasping at straws outside of the Bible to try to solve these irreconcilable contradictions. Doesn't seem very likely that the Bible is infallible given how far outside of it you are reaching for the answers you want

As I said before, if you just believe whatever is written in the Bible, without understanding or trying to evaluate how these things could happen, then you lack cognitive ability on this subject, and therefore you can not judge whether the Bible contains errors or not.

And as David Hume (paraphrased) said..."What is more likely, that the laws of the universe changed for a day, or that an unknown Jew wrote a lie?"

Or even more likely is that people are misinterpreting the passage.

 

[Ajax]

All three and the moon must stop to give us the extension of the day.
But could not God have a two-day war? That would not have required the stoppage of the solar system in its tracks.
All change and power is with Allah (lā ḥawla wa-lā quwwata ʾillā bi-llāh)

I don't know if you noticed, but my comment you quoted, was purely ironic...

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Does this mean that you just believe whatever is written in the Bible, without understanding or even try to evaluate how these things could happen?

If that is the case, then you lack cognitive ability on this subject, and therefore you can not judge whether the Bible contains errors or not.

Whether the sun stopped or not has no bearing on my salvation. When I read things in the Bible I am looking for what the point is that God wants me to see from that part, not specific details.

People desperately trying to prove the Bible wrong ONLY look at details and miss the message.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Well, I still believe different and I don't care about the Bible. So your words are just another belief system to me.

Ok

 

[Ajax]

Or even more likely is that people are misinterpreting the passage.

There is no misinterpretation...the Bible passage is as clear as it can ever be...

"...The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day. 14 There has been no day like it before or since, when the Lord hearkened to the voice of a man; for the Lord fought for Israel...."

 

[Aupmanyav]

I don't know if you noticed, but my comment you quoted, was purely ironic...

Sorry for the mistake. I have tried to make amends.
Ajax
(Comment on Charles Phillip's post) Sun and planets can not stop moving, but earth can..

 

[Ajax]

Whether the sun stopped or not has no bearing on my salvation. When I read things in the Bible I am looking for what the point is that God wants me to see from that part, not specific details.

People desperately trying to prove the Bible wrong ONLY look at details and miss the message.

OK, now you speak reasonably for the first time, If you had said that from the beginning, nobody would argue with you. You have every right to believe as you want. But when you challenge people that the Bible contains no errors whatsoever, you will face severe criticism.
And bear in mind you never mentioned anything about the message until now. You only wrote about the "details".

 

[Aupmanyav]

Whether the sun stopped or not has no bearing on my salvation.

Do you require a salvation? Why not just be a responsible human? IMHO, Everlasting life in heaven is just a paper promise.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Whether the sun stopped or not has no bearing on my salvation. When I read things in the Bible I am looking for what the point is that God wants me to see from that part, not specific details.

People desperately trying to prove the Bible wrong ONLY look at details and miss the message.

Well, I do the same for the world. I look for what works for me and ignore certain details.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Well, I do the same for the world. I look for what works for me and ignore certain details.

That saying of not seeing the forest through the trees works very well here.

Some people get so focused on the little things in the Bible that they miss Gods message.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That saying of not seeing the forest through the trees works very well here.

Some people get so focused on the little things in the Bible that they miss Gods message.

Yeah, and some people can't see that there is more to being a human and in the world than the Bible.

 

[Quester]

Unbelievers worship nature instead of the One who created nature. Created things prove that a creator created them, unless you can empty yourself of all common sense and embrace the sad pseudo science theory that "everything came from nothing", that defies logic

This is the stereotypical argument regarding "GOD" and whether or not this being exists - science vs "beliefs." Science looks for hard data to create a "belief" ... while beliefs jump over everything and just believe without looking at what data exists - it's really another way of saying "just take my word for it.".

Yes, science is looking into this, I would suggest starting with science based videos on the origin of cell life, understanding they have not as yet solved the problem, and go on from there.

MEANWHILE, there is sufficient data to expose this picture via religious history. I've brought this up in here before - monotheism never existed until the mid-1300s BC. The story goes on from there, including variations like Henotheism, but the idea is that there never was a lone / main "GOD" in beliefs until Akhenaton created it - and - the common people didn't like it.

I have no problem with "GOD" if such a being does exist ... however, all the historical information shows that this being was all made up. This does not negate the so-called "afterlife" place we all go to, as this has been researched too and proven to exist. We just need a cleared picture regarding what's going on.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Do you require a salvation? Why not just be a responsible human? IMHO, Everlasting life in heaven is just a paper promise.

Not to me and many other people.

The odds of humans even existing as we are today given everything that had to have aligned perfectly to make that happen are astronomical for it to just be a random event.

Although there is no way to prove that it’s enough for me. On top of that you have the entire writing of the Bible which happened over centuries by dozens of authors all making a seamless story is more verification for me.
And on top of that, seeing the way God has performed amazing things in my life which are too many to just be luck is even more proof for me.

Add all those together and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. But hey if I’m wrong I end up just like you. If you’re wrong well……