I'm in! I'd just love to hear, "Please elect me to bugger you", in an Australian accent.
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Does anyone else in the US feel...
- Thread starter yoda89
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I'm in! I'd just love to hear, "Please elect me to bugger you", in an Australian accent.
I think one powerful reason societies spiral into decline comes into play when their elites are able to isolate themselves from any negative consequences of the society's most threatening problems.
When elites can do that, they are free to either ignore those problems, or free to come up with ineffectual responses to them.
In my view, American elites have achieved the necessary isolation.
When elites can do that, they are free to either ignore those problems, or free to come up with ineffectual responses to them.
In my view, American elites have achieved the necessary isolation.
By the way, I am pessimistic about America. I don't think we'll find the political will to change things. Not this time around.
Erm...whilst 'bugger' is a commonly used part of the vernacular, I doubt even OUR politicians would put it in a sentence with that structure...lol
Here's an example of them using it in real life...about the 1.07 time frame.
'Bugger the numbers' says angry Oakeshott on Thomson saga
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Lots of people feel this. People generally feel what they're told to feel.
I think some folks are naturally optimistic, others naturally pessimistic, and others naturally cautious. That to my simple mind, explains most opinions on this topic.
But I also think brushing up on Jared Diamond's studies of why civilizations collapse (or even sometimes survive crucial challenges) might be an excellent idea for just about anyone.
Diamond identifies, if I recall, about sixteen or more key factors to take into consideration. That's opposed to the one absolutely key factor -- sexual morality -- that a preacher basses his views of it on.
yoda89
On Xtended Vacation
An outdated comparison yet a good example is that of the roman empire. There are many factors that caused its collapse. Yet while it may appear that others lead to its collapse. The majority of the collapse actually occurred within itself as people viewed themselves as invincible. Of course as we know the empire never completely vanished. It is still here today and is know as the Catholic Church.
My view is that it is our duty to never stop questioning things. Never stop understanding why you do something. This would not be considered pessimistic or optimistic.
It is in fact the majority that hold the power. I.E. Fightclub and the history of the world
My view is that it is our duty to never stop questioning things. Never stop understanding why you do something. This would not be considered pessimistic or optimistic.
It is in fact the majority that hold the power. I.E. Fightclub and the history of the world
OldThinker88
Member
America can only be compared to a "Ship of Fools"; the Ship is on a dangerous course and the Captain and Crew ignore all pleas to find safer waters. Eventually the ship is sunk, not because such an accident was preventable, but because the arrogance and bravado of the Captain had placed them in perilous situations.
Rise up, O Judge of the earth; render punishment to the proud.
-Psalm 94:2
Rise up, O Judge of the earth; render punishment to the proud.
-Psalm 94:2
tytlyf
Not Religious
Do you see the ship sinking in the next 3 years?
No, all recessions come to an end. We have a foolish captain, and too many passengers not rowing the boat.
OldThinker88
Member
Maybe not in the next 3 years, but perhaps in the next 20 or 30, unless there are some serious changes. The decline of a civilization usually takes several decades.
maninthewilderness
optimistic skeptic
I've traveled beyond our borders quite a bit.
And despite all of our troubles and all of our faults, I cannot think of anywhere I would rather be.
And since thousands and thousands of foreigners immigrate to the United States every year, I think we must be doing something right.
And despite all of our troubles and all of our faults, I cannot think of anywhere I would rather be.
And since thousands and thousands of foreigners immigrate to the United States every year, I think we must be doing something right.